Do blacks actually pay rent to live in housing projects
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:52 AM Author: Pontificating brunch azn
in nyc, they pay rent, but it's so out of whack with market that it is the strongest single factor in creating generational poverty imho.
the amount of people who give up on all types of life changes/opportunities because they can't imagine leaving their nycha apartment because it's "such a great deal" and they're "so lucky" to have one is crazy.
i know a guy who grew up in a 3-bd apartment in harlem and his mother's rent was and still is $25.00. twenty. five.
basically, it's the worst thing that can happen to a family. "yay i got off the nycha list" basically means "congrats, you've doomed your kids and grandkids to living there and not really aspiring to much beyond a reasonable distance from your apartment".
it's a form of golden handcuffs in a strange way.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660558) |
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 12:57 AM Author: Pontificating brunch azn
found this in an article from 2018:
The average rent is $522 a month, according to NYCHA, though rents can go as low as $10 or as high as $3,000, depending on a tenant’s income and the size of their apartment.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41660572)
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:28 AM Author: White Angry Turdskin Incel
Lmao this is the same political game as government unions. The city would be so much better off if it ended these programs, all these people got evicted and people who could pay market rents/mortgages moved in. The neighborhood would be better and the poors would have to move to rural Alabama or something and learn how to work for a living.
Of course it will never happen because the voters would never elect someone who ended their distopian grift.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41661369)
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 1:10 AM Author: Pontificating brunch azn
my buddy is a doctor actually. her husband owned a bodega and he lived in the apartment but didn't really live there paperwork wise. she had an under the table job running a daycare out of her living room back in the day.
here is the thing: if you are an adult and have a high tolerance for hood bullshit, then sure, whatever. but she raised 3 boys in this when she could have aspired to better. her son--my homeboy--was VERY MUCH fucked up by his upbringing and did the whole "apply to those jew programs where they adopt black and brown pets and pay for them to go to boarding school at like 6th grade" on his own to get out. his other two brothers are completely fucked up. one of which did many years inside. but she had a great apartment!
mind you, her husband was a bodeguero...guy was fucking raking so it was not about the means.
the system incentivizes getting under the table pay. basically, you can't get out of the shadows. so what happens is you LOOK for under the table living and inevitably the cycle continues. you are, say, 18 and say to your moms "i got a job at dr. jays selling sneakers" she will say "i can't have you working there unless it's under the table". you respond "ma, they are a real company. they do like direct deposit and stuff" she goes "mi'jo, esto no e' bueno. we could lose the apartment. im sorry. but we can't" which means you can't.
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 10:28 AM Author: stubborn lilac cumskin legal warrant
> go get a degree and pursue law or medicine or some other upwardly mobile pursuit
I don't think the issue is tons of potential doctors and lawyers are being discouraged from climbing out of the projects. But you could have people getting discouraged who might have been working a decent trade job or middling office work, supporting themselves in a decent middle class existence. And maybe *their* kids would have aspired to higher things.
Incentives matter. People respond to them. A nice place to live is a major motivator for people to improve their situation. If their actions and choices in life have no relation to whether or not they get to experience that outcome, there will be a real impact
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:03 PM Author: sinister thriller quadroon
This is an awful and very shitlib solution. The solution is to make public housing shittier and less desirable. Why the fuck is it in Manhattan at all? Put it fuck knows where at the edge of Brooklyn and Queens. Want to be in a nice place? Get a job. There should be no such thing as a 3 bedroom public housing apartment in Manhattan for $25/month. Try max 1 bedroom. Oh, it isn't comfortable? Get a career and get out of there. Also, there shouldn't be homelessness because if you build 1 room or 2 room units instead of 4 room units you're going to have buildings with way more units. And because they're way out, they're also cheaper to build.
To the extent there are nicer buildings, they should cost more. You earn more and you should live better. That creates proper incentives. You can also give credit to people with kids who do better in school.
There's a bunch of shit you can do to make public housing a temporary stepping stone up rather than an intergenerational super desirable thing that pushes you to make terrible life choices.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663011) |
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:09 PM Author: sinister thriller quadroon
And they absolutely should look like that. This is like "why don't we make prisons nice and comfortable for everyone??? Maybe build them on beach resorts instead? Give everyone a PS5 or Xbox Series X." If you're living off the public then it shouldn't be nice or comfortable. It should be undesirable. You should be constantly reminded that you're a net loss to society.
Yeah, we should do more to make sure there's a way up. All those companies screaming that black lives matter should be pressured to come up with apprenticeship programs centered in these ghettos. You want to be Goodyear tires and applaud CRT? Then why aren't you training people in the ghetto to make and install tires? And obviously, this should extend to poor white communities too but fuck the hypocrisy of these fuckers crying about black criminals being shot and maybe contributing money to BLM but doing absolutely nothing to help poor blacks actually move up in the world.
But I digress (but only slightly)...
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:39 PM Author: stubborn lilac cumskin legal warrant
Getting people into a state of not owning anything and being dependent on govt and apps is the stated goal of the global elite
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/11/how-life-could-change-2030/
Sample of their fanfic of a serfdom future:
Welcome to the year 2030. Welcome to my city - or should I say, "our city". I don't own anything. I don't own a car. I don't own a house. I don't own any appliances or any clothes.
It might seem odd to you, but it makes perfect sense for us in this city. Everything you considered a product, has now become a service. We have access to transportation, accommodation, food and all the things we need in our daily lives. One by one all these things became free, so it ended up not making sense for us to own much.
First communication became digitized and free to everyone. Then, when clean energy became free, things started to move quickly. Transportation dropped dramatically in price. It made no sense for us to own cars anymore, because we could call a driverless vehicle or a flying car for longer journeys within minutes.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663161) |
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Date: January 2nd, 2021 5:43 PM Author: sinister thriller quadroon
LOL, this is a nice admission:
"My biggest concern is all the people who do not live in our city. Those we lost on the way. Those who decided that it became too much, all this technology. Those who felt obsolete and useless when robots and AI took over big parts of our jobs. Those who got upset with the political system and turned against it. They live different kind of lives outside of the city. Some have formed little self-supplying communities. Others just stayed in the empty and abandoned houses in small 19th century villages.
Once in awhile I get annoyed about the fact that I have no real privacy. No where I can go and not be registered. I know that, somewhere, everything I do, think and dream of is recorded. I just hope that nobody will use it against me."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4726117&forum_id=2#41663184) |
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