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Who do Jehovah's Witnesses believe?
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:39 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set What* How does their religion differ from Christianity? |
Date: January 12th, 2021 8:41 PM Author: Crusty up-to-no-good kitty cat They actually follow the Bible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741392) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:42 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set Why don't they celebrate Christmas? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741396) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:47 PM Author: Crusty up-to-no-good kitty cat Bc its totally bullshit and not Bible based (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741465) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:49 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set Really? Not a religionmo so I don't know. I thought Christians believe Jesus was born on Christmas, thus worth celebrating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741479) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:05 PM Author: Histrionic rigor JWs recognize that Xmas came from the Roman saturnalia (winter solstice more or less) and thus has pagan roots. Nothing in scripture indicates JC was born in December, in fact to the contrary the fact that shepherds were sleeping outside with their flocks when the angel appeared announcing JC’s birth indicates it wasn’t winter bc it’s cold in Israel in December. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741600) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:19 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set So they don't have an issue with JC's actual birth then, just an issue with the date. Seems like an arbitrary thing to fuss about.
Do they believe JC is the son of God (Jehovah)? |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:12 AM Author: Histrionic rigor They don’t celebrate birthdays at all because they believe such celebrations are of pagan origin. That’s a recurring theme for JWs. Mixing Christianity and paganism is a big no-no.
They do believe JC is son of God, but not part of a trinity. |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:14 AM Author: primrose crackhouse useless brakes seems like some 110 iq hot take bullshit. lets just do christianity minus JC's birthday and call him the son of god but not god himself (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743858) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:12 PM Author: olive kitchen Compared to regular 85 IQ Christianity this is probably right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748459) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 12:29 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set Do they believe in the Resurrection? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745185) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 1:00 PM Author: Histrionic rigor Yes. They believe 144,000 will rule as “kings and priests” in heaven with JC, and there will be a resurrection to earth of “the righteous and unrighteous” where they’ll be ruled by JC and the 144k and the earth will be a paradise like the garden of Eden. There’s obv more detail, but that’s the high level. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745426) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 1:17 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set Wtf? Who are these 144,000 people? Aren't the JWs constantly trying to recruit more people? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745566) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 2:11 PM Author: Histrionic rigor The big pitch is living forever in eternal youth on a paradise earth. Very few modern day JWs consider themselves part of the 144k. Maybe like 1 out of 1,000 current JWs. The rest have the “earthly hope.”
So I guess that’s a key difference between JW-ism and mainstream Christianity. Mainstream Christians want to go to heaven. Most JWs want to live forever on paradise earth. |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 5:14 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set I see. So when people die, JWs say "Rest in Paradise" meaning rest in paradise earth, not heaven (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41747344) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 6:59 PM Author: Histrionic rigor I’m not familiar with JWs using that phrase, but if they do, yes whenever they refer to “paradise” they are referring to earth. And more precisely, post-Armageddon earth which is restored to edenic perfection, lions laying down with lambs (literally), and righteous humans living forever in eternal youth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748028) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:08 PM Author: Histrionic rigor They certainly try. Their main issue (IMO) is the whole “end times” schtick they’ve been running for over 100 years. But otherwise gotta give the JWs credit for trying to follow actual scripture and rejecting sketchy doctrines like trinity, hellfire, and the like. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741614) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 1:06 PM Author: Translucent parlor athletic conference more or less true...they believe in heaven on earth, not heaven in the sky...the bible specifically says that the faithful will live forever ON EARTH...all the rest of mainstream christianity is buying into this heaven in the sky bullshit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745491) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:47 PM Author: tan harsh death wish one of their long-running beliefs is that modern america represents Babylon the Great from the book of revelation. that didn't make them very popular with US authorities for a long while, but now it seems kind of prescient. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741460) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:48 PM Author: Crusty up-to-no-good kitty cat Whoa (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741468) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:13 AM Author: Histrionic rigor Yeah, they were jailed in WWI and WW2 for refusing to go to war for USA. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743854) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:56 PM Author: diverse sable den round eye Jesus is coming asap and btw Jesus wasn’t god, trinity is a sham only the uber special (them) are saved Christianity lost its way until the 19th century (them), don’t think they believe in any kind of continuity with church through time yhwh is literally pronounced “Jehovah” (misunderstanding the vowel markers the masoretic text added to remind the reader to say “adonai”/lord when reading the divine name) and for some reason we have to say Jehovah a lot |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 8:59 PM Author: diverse sable den round eye BTW on the subject of crazy 19th century US restorationist movements (there were several), look up the Oneida community of you’re not familiar
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneida_Community
(yes, the silverware people, one and the same)
the dudes had to keep the women “pure” by banging them but not cumming. high intensity sport |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:15 AM Author: flesh institution lol was the founder a disgraced IFNB member (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743863) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:26 AM Author: diverse sable den round eye (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743905) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:28 AM Author: Metal Nofapping Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743912) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 12:32 PM Author: flesh institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41745214) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:01 PM Author: Titillating dysfunction big kiddy diddler scam in the ranks of these folks as well (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741573) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:20 PM Author: Irate big menage a joke.
A general heuristic for people: If no early church fathers wrote or support key tenets of your beliefs, and in fact often say things completely to the contrary, your interpretation is likely horseshit. |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:21 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set And what interpretation is that exactly? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741690) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:24 PM Author: Irate big menage The non-existence of hell, for example. Another would be the denial of an immortal soul. Those core JW beliefs run completely contrary to the corpus of early church documents, letters and pronouncements. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741703) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:25 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set So when you die, what happens to your soul according to JW? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41741711) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:29 PM Author: Irate big menage Sometimes it dies along with the person. I'm hardly a JW expert so the nuances about when they think it does die and when it does not is something i am ignorant about. What I do know is that they believe in some instances that the soul dies with the person which is simply wrong.
I would add something else to that heuristic: If you have to start changing words and shit in the bible to match you beliefs in contrast to what has been circulating for over a thousand years. This would apply to Luther as well. |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 2:12 PM Author: Histrionic rigor There is no separate soul according to JWs. You *are* a soul, you don’t *have* a soul. When you die, you are dead. But God (Jehovah) can resurrect you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41746006) |
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Date: January 12th, 2021 9:26 PM Author: Pontificating boyish box office wrinkle 10k get saved. They've already been chosen. You can apply for waitlist |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:13 AM Author: amber hunting ground It's a joke Religion that was created to avoid the Vietnam draft (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743853) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:27 AM Author: flesh institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41743910) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 7:56 PM Author: exciting turquoise trailer park Vegetarianism and not receiving blood transfusions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748350) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:03 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set This is definitely not true. The JWs i know eat a lot of meat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748402) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:11 PM Author: exciting turquoise trailer park Maybe it’s more like little to no meat. Or maybe I’m thinking of Seventh Day Adventists. I don’t really know any JWs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748456) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:13 PM Author: olive kitchen Blood thing is true. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748468) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:17 PM Author: Topaz Cruise Ship I'm friends with one who left it in his teens but then rediscovered in mid 20s
Basically it's all about the Bible. The belief that we are in "end times" The only way to be one of the 126,000 who get to heaven is to live a "good" life, do regular bible-study, and go door-to-door once a week. They don't really speak about the 126,000 thing openly, though.
There are no special days (birthdays, holidays, etc)
Some will drink in moderation, dance, party and have fun. But there is no pre-martial sex. Swear words kept to a minimum. |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:19 PM Author: Cruel-hearted set The limited space available to get into their version of "heaven" (Paradise) is really a shitty tenet of their religion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748508) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:43 PM Author: Infuriating fear-inspiring generalized bond bawdyhouse Is there a waiting list? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748665) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 8:47 PM Author: Topaz Cruise Ship Limited admission to heaven seems like a smart strategy to keep people committed and adhering to the rules. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748693) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:38 PM Author: Histrionic rigor Actually it’s one of the selling points. The VAST majority of JWs have no desire to go to heaven. They have the “earthly hope”: living forever in a bucolic paradise. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41749009) |
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Date: January 13th, 2021 9:33 PM Author: Histrionic rigor Yep this is generally correct except it’s 144k who go to heaven. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4737945&forum_id=2#41748980) |