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I worked for a tech company that appeared to be stealing IP ...
180 jade faggotry
  04/07/21
He's copying their UI/UX, it's really nbd. IP issues are mor...
Buff impressive institution
  04/08/21
It still seems like a copyright issue with potential unlawfu...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
You'd have to aggressively 1:1 copy some other company's UI ...
Buff impressive institution
  04/08/21
There was some 1:1 copying of specific features. Keep in min...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
"copying" how? All he's doing is seeing some visua...
Buff impressive institution
  04/08/21
The engineers had to implement it from scratch, but it still...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
Yeah, and then you are in trade dress land.
lake supple jew double fault
  04/08/21
How is the access unlawful?
lake supple jew double fault
  04/08/21
Not a lawyer so I’m not sure what qualifies as “...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
How did he obtain his access?
Buff impressive institution
  04/08/21
He had to create a fake account and fill out a form stating ...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
Get hit by a car, and the people here can help
Contagious Plaza
  04/07/21
...
180 jade faggotry
  04/07/21
afaik this is very common in the tech industry. not a lawyer...
Cracking Space Genital Piercing
  04/07/21
Employment lawyer told me to talk to a copyright lawyer. Any...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
tip off the competitor and go from there breh
Cracking Space Genital Piercing
  04/08/21
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180 jade faggotry
  04/07/21
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180 jade faggotry
  04/07/21
Your best path here is to parlay your knowledge of the bad b...
Cyan cruise ship hominid
  04/07/21
This or you can get the same money from your old boss not to...
Contagious Plaza
  04/08/21
Getting money from the competitor is fine. Getting money fr...
Adventurous shitlib station
  04/08/21
Lawyers get to do legal extortion. It’s a perk of the ...
Contagious Plaza
  04/08/21
Do I need a lawyer to do this or can I reach out to the comp...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
Reach out to the competitor directly. If you reach out with...
Cyan cruise ship hominid
  04/08/21
Already left the employer. They fired me because I had a sch...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
...
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
Pensive signal activated
Judgmental cerise digit ratio
  04/08/21
fuck lawyers
Talented locale
  04/08/21
f*ck the tech industry. burn them all down pumo
Cracking Space Genital Piercing
  04/08/21
Do they get government contracts?
Garnet splenetic ticket booth multi-billionaire
  04/08/21
Only private clients when I worked there.
180 jade faggotry
  04/08/21
you're not gonna see a dime, move on with your life Or sp...
Garnet splenetic ticket booth multi-billionaire
  04/08/21
still worth stirring up a storm even if there’s no pay...
Cracking Space Genital Piercing
  04/08/21
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laughsome mother
  04/09/21
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180 jade faggotry
  04/09/21
Going to send an anonymous email on Monday tipping off the c...
180 jade faggotry
  04/09/21
do it breh. you’re not extorting anyone here. nothing ...
Cracking Space Genital Piercing
  04/09/21
probably better than asking for help from lawyers, who would...
rose alcoholic mad-dog skullcap
  04/09/21
...
180 jade faggotry
  04/09/21
Emailed a few IP lawyers today. Will keep the bort updated.
180 jade faggotry
  04/12/21
None of the four shitlawyers I emailed responded wtf
180 jade faggotry
  04/13/21


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Date: April 7th, 2021 1:23 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

I worked for a tech company that appeared to be stealing IP and/or infringing on copyrights of a competitor. The CEO himself was doing this since he had access to the competitor’s private SaaS platform, probably with a fake account. I observed the CEO logging in to the competitor’s product, and I saw the features that were being copied over.

Is there any sort of lawsuit/payout potential here? This scummy company fired me because I’m a diagnosed schizophrenic, but I didn’t file an ADA claim in time because I was too depressed and in denial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42236987)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 9:47 AM
Author: Buff impressive institution

He's copying their UI/UX, it's really nbd. IP issues are more when an engineer moves from one company to the next and brings over source code, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241579)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 9:52 AM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

It still seems like a copyright issue with potential unlawful access of their software. IANAL which is why I’m asking here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241603)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 12:20 PM
Author: Buff impressive institution

You'd have to aggressively 1:1 copy some other company's UI / color scheme / fonts etc. before that's even remotely an issue. For my upcoming app, I gave the designer examples of existing companies in the space + some tangential ones that have interface elements that I like. This is par for the course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242365)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:44 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

There was some 1:1 copying of specific features. Keep in mind the CEO was accessing their software using a fake account to do this since the software is not publicly available. It’s investment software with access being restricted only to qualified investment managers. If the competitor is half-competent they should be able to track down the account he’s using.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242820)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 2:44 PM
Author: Buff impressive institution

"copying" how? All he's doing is seeing some visual function of it, but the engineers at this company have to go engineer it with their own source code.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42243305)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 3:18 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

The engineers had to implement it from scratch, but it still was core product functionality that was being copied over. The CEO had access to this private software even though he should not have been accessing it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42243522)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:47 PM
Author: lake supple jew double fault

Yeah, and then you are in trade dress land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242851)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:46 PM
Author: lake supple jew double fault

How is the access unlawful?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242844)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:51 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Not a lawyer so I’m not sure what qualifies as “unlawful,” but it’s definitely unauthorized. The competitor’s software is a private product with access restricted only to investment advisors

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242887)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 2:43 PM
Author: Buff impressive institution

How did he obtain his access?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42243296)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 3:19 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

He had to create a fake account and fill out a form stating he was an investment advisor before getting access.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42243531)



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Date: April 7th, 2021 1:36 PM
Author: Contagious Plaza

Get hit by a car, and the people here can help

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42237085)



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Date: April 7th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42237374)



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Date: April 7th, 2021 2:51 PM
Author: Cracking Space Genital Piercing

afaik this is very common in the tech industry. not a lawyer but you should probably ask an employment lawyer about this instead of asking the bort. at the very least you should tip off the competitor. tech frauds should be flayed alive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42237654)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 9:45 AM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Employment lawyer told me to talk to a copyright lawyer. Anyone have any recs for a copyright lawyer in MFH?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241567)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 11:41 AM
Author: Cracking Space Genital Piercing

tip off the competitor and go from there breh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242079)



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Date: April 7th, 2021 6:33 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42239093)



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Date: April 7th, 2021 10:09 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42239999)



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Date: April 7th, 2021 10:12 PM
Author: Cyan cruise ship hominid

Your best path here is to parlay your knowledge of the bad behavior into a spot at the competitor company with a rich "signing bonus" (100k? 500k? 1m? Depends on the value of the IP) which will effectively be the bribe they pay you in exchange for your ratting out your former employer to enable them to stop the conduct, go to authorities (maybe), or at least file a civil suit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42240020)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 7:44 AM
Author: Contagious Plaza

This or you can get the same money from your old boss not to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241189)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 7:58 AM
Author: Adventurous shitlib station

Getting money from the competitor is fine. Getting money from the old boss NOT to rat him out is extortion. Makes no sense but there we are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241216)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 5:20 PM
Author: Contagious Plaza

Lawyers get to do legal extortion. It’s a perk of the job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42244185)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 9:44 AM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Do I need a lawyer to do this or can I reach out to the competitor directly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241562)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 9:46 AM
Author: Cyan cruise ship hominid

Reach out to the competitor directly. If you reach out with a lawyer you'll frighten everyone and they'll get squirrelly. Don't be an autist about this -- this is a conversation you should have over drinks or lunch don't put anything in writing. Make sure you're talking to the right person -- you want to be talking to a key decision-maker at the company, not some middle manager getting off on the fantasy they have power.

When you leave your former co. do it quietly with no indication about where you intend to go or why. I'm assuming you're no bound by any non-compete agreements (even if you are you can figure ways out of them but it complicates the situation). Make sure you have a deal hammered out IN WRITING before you abandon your current employer.

When you have the conversation with the competitor, it's important for you to style the discussion from the perspective of "I have information that will help you, let's figure out a mutually beneficial way to work this out" you don't want to make them feel like you're threatening or extorting them and you also need to make sure you don't implicate yourself in the conduct. There is a way to do this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241572)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 9:50 AM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Already left the employer. They fired me because I had a schizophrenic episode (diagnosed with schizophrenia three years ago but did not disclose it to the employer). They probably thought I was on drugs. Didn’t file an ADA claim in time because I was too depressed to think it through (severe depression).

I think I’ll send them an anonymous email through Proton Mail and go from there. Their office is too far from me, so I can’t do it in person. Will keep the bort updated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42241593)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 11:37 AM
Author: 180 jade faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242058)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:44 PM
Author: Judgmental cerise digit ratio

Pensive signal activated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242825)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:44 PM
Author: Talented locale

fuck lawyers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242827)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 2:34 PM
Author: Cracking Space Genital Piercing

f*ck the tech industry. burn them all down pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42243217)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:45 PM
Author: Garnet splenetic ticket booth multi-billionaire

Do they get government contracts?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242838)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 1:52 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Only private clients when I worked there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42242891)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 2:46 PM
Author: Garnet splenetic ticket booth multi-billionaire

you're not gonna see a dime, move on with your life

Or spend the next 30 years letting it shape every aspect of your life.

It's up to you, schizo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42243318)



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Date: April 8th, 2021 5:17 PM
Author: Cracking Space Genital Piercing

still worth stirring up a storm even if there’s no payout. schizo pumo should do it and poast updates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42244177)



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Date: April 9th, 2021 12:08 PM
Author: laughsome mother



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42248731)



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Date: April 9th, 2021 12:05 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42248700)



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Date: April 9th, 2021 3:58 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Going to send an anonymous email on Monday tipping off the competitor. I see three potential outcomes:

1. Competitor doesn’t give a shit and doesn’t respond.

2. Competitor responds but determines the case isn’t strong enough.

3. Competitor sees potential in the case and pursues this aggressively. This could lead to a new job for me.

Tell me why I shouldn’t do this. The CEO is pure scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42250193)



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Date: April 9th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Cracking Space Genital Piercing

do it breh. you’re not extorting anyone here. nothing to lose. keep us updated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42250246)



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Date: April 9th, 2021 4:10 PM
Author: rose alcoholic mad-dog skullcap

probably better than asking for help from lawyers, who would most likely not be looking out for your interests but the interests of institutions that employ them and the state

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42250280)



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Date: April 9th, 2021 9:03 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42251732)



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Date: April 12th, 2021 12:20 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

Emailed a few IP lawyers today. Will keep the bort updated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42264149)



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Date: April 13th, 2021 1:30 PM
Author: 180 jade faggotry

None of the four shitlawyers I emailed responded wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4805299&forum_id=2#42271741)