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I have Complicated but mostly Good thoughts about Christianity
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Date: November 27th, 2022 7:43 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks 1. Jesus as a historical figure who stood up to Jewish usury and Oral Law sophistry (which turned into the Talmud) practices and was murdered for it - a noble and beautiful individual, an inspiration and example for all, even without believing in the resurrection
2. Paul of Tarsus as a shifty kike who used a spiritual Bolshevik strategy (he never even met Jesus) along with other Jews to rile up the underclasses of slaves, women and retards as a revenge strategy against rome after the destruction of the second temple , resulting ultimately in the tragedy of the destruction of pagan rome and a loss of 90-99% of Roman knowledge
3. The rise of a hierarchical Catholicism which tempered the worst equality spiritual Bolshevik impulses inherent in the Christian texts , leading to a kind of spiritual balance
4. A reaction against Catholicism in the form of Protestantism, which destroyed the balance from #3, unleashing the pure equality impulses of the religion that led via Unitarianism directly to modern pure equality focused shitliberalism . All these secular shitlibs who hate Christianity ironically have no idea they are expressing purely Christian impulses
If Christianity has any future it is only in the form of a returning hierarchy |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 11:54 PM Author: Sapphire Tantric Bawdyhouse Coffee Pot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552435) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 11:56 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle plaza rigpig (guy whose reading comp rapidly accelerates after second glance) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552440) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 12:14 PM Author: contagious tanning salon pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45554011) |
Date: November 27th, 2022 7:53 PM Author: contagious tanning salon pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45551656) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 8:07 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks The problem with Catholicism is the current pope is a satanic globohomo puppet and his cardinals are almost all satanic pedophiles
The problem with the Eastern Orthodox Church is a lot of the top figures are corrupt too |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 9:42 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45551989) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 9:58 PM Author: blathering marvelous meetinghouse 3&4 address ~1700 years of history with only an oh so sly mention of a political party created in the early 20th century
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Date: November 27th, 2022 10:03 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks The Protestant and Unitarian trends leading to globohomo was a lot longer than that , but yes, satanic globohomo, the worst force in world history, deserves its own bullet point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552060) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 10:04 PM Author: disgusting step-uncle's house *The Pope breathing a sigh of relief* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552061) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 10:04 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&mc=7&forum_id=2#45551712 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552064) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 10:21 PM Author: Soul-stirring opaque gaming laptop Points 3 and 4 are pretty moldbuggy, but I think there is actually some explanatory power there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552108) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 10:49 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks yes, good catch, one of the multiple influences of point 3 and 4 is moldbug's take on ultracalvinism. one of the others is the historian tom holland in his book dominion, which you may appreciate. i'll quote from the intro:
"“The more years I spent immersed in the study of classical antiquity, so the more alien I increasingly found it. The values of Leonidas, whose people had practiced a particularly murderous form of eugenics and trained their young to kill uppity Untermenschen by night, were nothing that I recognized as my own; nor were those of Caesar, who was reported to have killed a million Gauls, and enslaved a million more. It was not just the extremes of callousness that unsettled me, but the complete lack of any sense that the poor or the weak might have the slightest intrinsic value. Why did I find this disturbing? Because, in my morals and ethics, I was not a Spartan or a Roman at all. That my belief in God had faded over the course of my teenage years did not mean that I had ceased to be Christian. For a millennium and more, the civilization into which I had been born was Christendom. Assumptions that I had grown up with - about how a society should properly be organized, and the principles that it should uphold - were not bred of classical antiquity, still less of ‘human nature’, but very distinctively of that civilization’s Christian past. So profound has been the impact of Christianity on the development of Western civilization that it has come to be hidden from view. It is the incomplete revolutions which are remembered; the fate of those whose triumph is to be taken for granted.”
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Date: November 27th, 2022 11:46 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle plaza rigpig did you like Dominion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552398) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 11:52 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks i appreciate that he is one of the few writers who is consciously aware of his own cognitive biases that result from growing up in a christian culture, but i don't really like his writing style -- it is too flowery for my taste -- and he also consciously skips over world war 2, which is cowardly imo because that's the moment when pagan Roman-esque warrior energies tried to really reassert itself for the first time in 2,000 years and it needed to be addressed
i wouldn't not recommend it, but i'm overall lukewarm |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 5:54 AM Author: histrionic volcanic crater Incredible book but the last part is weak since Holland can't shake the mind control, imo. It's like, "oh then btw we have people like the Beatles saying all you need is Love, and that too..." etc. after many very fine and riveting chapters on how, concretely, Christian precepts differ from the pagan way of thinking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552838) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:01 AM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks Yeah, those last chapters were disappointing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45553335) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:07 AM Author: histrionic volcanic crater His book on the significance of Pope Gregory is awesome. Maybe one of his best.
After reading Dominion, I appreciate why one can meaningfully say someone is a "Christian Atheist". |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 5:51 AM Author: histrionic volcanic crater We've had a similar reading path. All of Holland's books are well worth reading. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552835) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:38 AM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks I think I’m going to skip his other books because of the writing style issue I had with it. I know xo raves about Rubicon though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45553528) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:40 AM Author: histrionic volcanic crater Rubicon is great. Just released on Audible.
Diff. author, good book on general protestant history: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31837016-protestants
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Date: November 28th, 2022 10:41 AM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks Ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45553538) |
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Date: November 27th, 2022 11:43 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45552387) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 12:24 PM Author: Flushed messiness These are mostly credited but Catholicism running with Hebrew written Gospels as the basis for its scriptures is still fruit from the poisonous tree. Do you believe Jesus is the resurrected son of the Jewish God or not?
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Date: November 28th, 2022 12:28 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks No, nothing I see about how reality works would allow the breaking of physical laws to allow for resurrection. But my appreciation for Jesus’s message and actions does not rest on his resurrection to me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45554088) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 12:35 PM Author: Flushed messiness That’s fine. His teachings were innocuous and he died like a common criminal with little fanfare. Like you said the next generation or so of kikes like Saul weaponized him using Bolshevik ‘alliance of the fringes’ tactics against the “godless” Romans as revenge for Titus’ victory. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45554131) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 1:49 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks His teachings were radical in that he stood up to Jewish power. But yes, it seems to be that truth seekers are punished and evil triumphs throughout human history. that's why the idea of the evil demiurge creating and controlling material reality has a lot of explanatory power (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45554546) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 2:55 PM Author: Flushed messiness there's no single supreme God to which evil and other forces are subordinate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45554889) |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 3:02 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks my basic logic is as follows
it makes sense to me that all of matter has to ultimately come from a non-matter source outside of space/time; such an entity would be everywhere and everywhen, infinite, as space/time would be subordinate to it. because reality based on long, painful observation seems to be hostile to truth prevailing, an entity that would actively hate truth would be a limited entity, and thus not the first mover |
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Date: November 28th, 2022 6:45 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45555783) |
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Date: November 29th, 2022 10:07 AM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45558182) |
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Date: December 4th, 2022 12:40 PM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45583888) |
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Date: December 9th, 2022 12:34 AM Author: Comical Potus Christianity has no semblance of art and culture anymore
Would be better off with Muslims at lead pole to at least provide better aesthetics
A Muslim BAP will appear just in time to rally the detritus into the next gigantic human dung heap |
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Date: December 9th, 2022 12:41 AM Author: vengeful aquamarine native wagecucks islamic middle east is rapidly secularizing unfortunately, and "most based" saudi is choking on israeli cock daily (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5243038&forum_id=2#45607370) |
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Date: December 9th, 2022 3:15 PM Author: Comical Potus yeah the arabs are actually the most degenerate in their true form and make jews look like choir boys
the second they get secularized they go full bore perversion, its why the muslim leaders have such boot on the neck mentality with their own
at least jews are open about using smut to tighten goyim yokes, the muslims and arabs love low vibration energy harvests for personla use |