How to get good at cross examination
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Date: December 2nd, 2022 6:02 PM Author: Flushed stage ladyboy
Do tree
learn exact steps on how to do impeachment from depo. Or alternatively, fuck up impeachment from depo at trial, lose the case, then learn how to ask better depo questions
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45576252) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 1:53 PM Author: Flushed stage ladyboy
does this example help Poastradamus? Figure out what points you want to score or emphasize and then plan the latticework behind getting to that point effectively
You want it set up so you get to the point you want and it doesnt matter what he says. LITERALLY write it out. No short cuts on big cases--defense wont let you.
Remember also you HAVE to get them to answer each quesiton. They HAVE to answer. Go back until they give you an answer that is responsive. If they are fighting and wont agree to a damn thing, just plough through even with their nos. They'll sound unreasonable.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45579939)
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:06 PM Author: Adventurous Poppy Set
"Premies have desat signs all the time, right?"
Way too vague. WTF does "all the time" mean? The witness is going to say "all the time?" and then you'll engage in a subthread wasteland trying to clarify what you meant.
All of these need to be tightened up.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580005) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:08 PM Author: Flushed stage ladyboy
he's actually going to have to agree with me there.
Remember I want to get in and out and not fight him on the medicine. If he argues that they dont have desats all the time then that's hugely helpful for me for other reasons. If he argues that he doesnt understand the question that's in straightofard language then it doesnt hurt me and it might help me.
But in principle your point is good.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580013) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:18 PM Author: Flushed stage ladyboy
Already done at this point.
Its in opening from both sides and all plaintiff's experts have testified that if its "suspected" you have to rule it out.
Still ...
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580055) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:32 PM Author: Flushed stage ladyboy
Okay. will cut out the extranous bit at the beginning as that seems the problem hold on
"you didn't suspect infection, correct?"
"and you didnt' order follow up testing to rule infection in or out, correct?"
End point
Same issue with the responses but he's going to do that no matter what.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580124) |
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Date: December 4th, 2022 9:23 AM Author: Flushed stage ladyboy
Lol DK all over the place. I’m going to call you Mr. DK from now on.
But this is amusing. Tell me more about “one question too many” dude.
That “one question too many” is gonna get asked on redirect, you know. And then your credibility as truth talker goes down the tubes for not having been perceived as forthright with the jury. That’s why the cliche doesn’t work. But you don’t know that and why should you because you haven’t had 20 years experience as a lawyer but you don’t know what you don’t know and lol at how that doesn’t stop you from calling me names.
You also have to know the law in question and what’s trying to be shown. I’m not going to bother explaining it. But if person x didn’t do y, you can just ASK them that. The point is to establish the unreasonableness of the thinking behind the action or inaction in a specific context. Was it *reasonable* to have made the decision that was made. Was it professionally reasonable to have omitted a differential from consideration. And people are always going to argue that what they did was reasonable — there’s no getting around that. In cross, a counter to that is made in the questions themselves.
And you can’t impeach with literature that way. They are going to deny that the article is reliable for starters, regardless of “stipulation”, so don’t ask them. You just establish their belief and actions that were contrary to the article, and that’s about all you can do with that.
It’s hilarious and completely unsurprising that you would make the poast above. Tell me more, oh guru of everything.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45583281) |
Date: December 3rd, 2022 11:35 AM Author: free-loading coldplay fan hunting ground
Seems like it would be pretty obvious
1. Make a list of concessions you're looking for, or the material from them you're going to use.
2. Write lines of questioning for each.
3. Gameplan every answer they could give to any question, through your entire line of questioning, and how you'll use it / control the witness. Goes without saying almost everything should be leading and closed-ended.
4. Know their depositions thoroughly so you can impeach quickly and efficiently.
5. Once you can do this comfortably and easily, start using it to make them look stupid and unreasonable along the way, so they give you your concessions and also make your jury hate them by the end of it.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45579267) |
Date: December 3rd, 2022 2:05 PM Author: exhilarant drunken home reading party
Irv Younger's 10 Commandments of Cross Exam:
Be brief
Use plain words
Ask only leading questions
Be prepared
Listen
Don’t get into a quarrel
Avoid repetition
Disallow witness explanations
Limit questioning
Save the main point for the summation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBP2if0l-a8
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580000) |
Date: December 3rd, 2022 5:34 PM Author: Impertinent frisky brunch
Where most lawyers mess up is not controlling the witness. I get that you're asking fundamentals, but where every failing cross goes wrong is where you give the witness wiggle room out of an answer.
That usually comes from two issues - overly complex questions or questions that allow a witness to explain themselves.
If you ask simple questions and make sure they're not open ended, you are 90% there.
I have no idea how civil litigators fail at cross. If you have a deposition it becomes far easier to cross examine someone. Try crossing a witness who you barely have any idea what they will say and are critical to your clients freedom
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580940) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 5:40 PM Author: exhilarant drunken home reading party
the witness is gonna wiggle, regardless in a Depo.
they key is to ask a question so simple that once they start with the, "well, it depends. . ." then even a 5 year old will roll their eyes at whatever the fuck they're saying.
"Mr. Faggot, according to the Medical Board of Faggots, for which you've said is a reliable and credible medical resource, a patient should not develop a stage 4 pressure ulcer if his skin is inspected every day and he's rotated every 2 hours?"
Mr. Faggot: "well, not necessarily, because you see. . . ."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580957) |
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Date: December 3rd, 2022 5:46 PM Author: free-loading coldplay fan hunting ground
Better would be:
- "Mr. Faggot, you've said right here that the Medical Board of Faggots is a credible medical body, correct?"
- "And the Medical Board of Faggots state in xyz resource that the standard for patient care is daily skin inspection, and rotation every two hours, correct?"
- "And they further state that if this standard of care is met, the patient shouldn't develop ulcers, correct?"
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580980) |
Date: December 3rd, 2022 5:35 PM Author: exhilarant drunken home reading party
During Cross, you are simply trying to get the witness to agree with specific points that you will use to build your Closing Argument. You are not there to have a Perry Mason or Law & Order moment.
NEVER NEVER NEVER go back and forht with the witness. The second you do is the second you look like a querlous faggot who can't control the room.
If the witness starts rambling in response to your question, just walk away from them and go back to your table and pretend to shuffle around some papers. When they stop talking walk back up to them/the podium and say,
"That was not the question I asked you, I'll repeat my question..."
When you do that you send a message that you aren't going to stop the witness, but you are going to get the answer to your question.
The jury won't have any patience to hear another rambling response and they also recognize that you are in control of what you are asking and not just looking to score "GOTCHA" points.
Plus, the judge will be annoyed if hte witness starts up with that rambling shit again after being asked a very simple YES/NO question.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45580941) |
Date: December 3rd, 2022 5:54 PM Author: Impertinent frisky brunch
Also, this is more advanced, but it helps to have your questions be basically declarative instead of inquisitive.
And then you went to the car, didn't you?
And then you got in, right?
It was hot inside wasn't it?
vs.
Then you went to the car.
And you got in.
It was hot. You started sweating.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5246131&forum_id=2#45581007) |
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