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What's The CR Ranking Of Major Business Hotel Chains?

Q is limited to business hotel chains like marriott, hyatt, ...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
If you book a hotel based on brand and not based on the spec...
talented charcoal stage foreskin
  03/11/24
whatever it is you need to pick one and stick with it. Marr...
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
disagree re sticking with one. hotel status is flame unless ...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
depends on how much you travel I guess. It's easier to actu...
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
does anyone accumulate a useful amount of points from stayin...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
ive racked up a fair amount of hyatt points and theyve been ...
Bull headed parlour boiling water
  03/11/24
Between stays, ccard spend on those stays and various bonuse...
Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house
  03/11/24
I have Marriott Ambassador and LHW Aurelien status and they ...
Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house
  03/11/24
tbf, a suite upgrade is pretty worthless to me -- and i imag...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
Always nice to have more space
Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house
  03/11/24
yeah it's an "always nice" thing whereas F/J vs Y ...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
I am obv on board with F/J flying. Should be a Soo CR year o...
Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house
  03/11/24
90% of the time I pay with points I accumulate on my credit ...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
I'm Marriott Bonvoy Platinum and it's a big deal for me. 4p...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
who needs premium internet to poast?
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
Slow internet is 120.
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
ive never had slow internet other than when the nullo spamme...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
Just use the Internet in the office. You only need it in you...
Comical set
  03/11/24
It is nice to be able to wake up, take a meeting, then head ...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
id go hyatt > marriott > hilton
Bull headed parlour boiling water
  03/11/24
I have been in a terrible Hyatt Regency. Marriott is a good ...
iridescent gas station blood rage
  03/11/24
i have a Hilton credit card, but probably picked the wrong h...
boyish private investor
  03/11/24
i never remember the quality of hotels i stay in much less a...
Exciting international law enforcement agency faggot firefighter
  03/11/24
Marriottt gives you exactly three towels no matter what even...
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
u know the mounted communal bottles that have they keys to o...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
last marriott I stayed in I was given an accessible room so ...
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
who doesnt bring their own shampoo?
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
everyone?
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
gross. we r all jacking off (in the shampoos)
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
most are too high up for that to work. the number of ppl wh...
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
(guy who rubbed my jizz all over his hair, face and body)
Amber Exhilarant Personal Credit Line Locale
  03/11/24
Hotel shampoo cummers
yellow brethren travel guidebook
  03/11/24
Probably Marriott. But there’s something magical about...
mind-boggling plaza
  03/11/24
froots loop
iridescent gas station blood rage
  03/11/24
Paired with a black coffee, trebble sugar.
mind-boggling plaza
  03/11/24
None of the above, quality varies yugely and unpredictably w...
Thriller self-absorbed tattoo
  03/11/24
do you not earn points when you book through a 3rd party sit...
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
You do not. It's also retarded to book through an OTA, at le...
Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house
  03/11/24
Post-Starwood acquisition it’s been Marriott by a mile...
Amber Exhilarant Personal Credit Line Locale
  03/11/24
Marriott
Demanding resort indirect expression
  03/11/24
Hilton is easy to rack up points and there are several more ...
Comical set
  03/11/24
I've had a few Hiltons with legit paper-thin walls. I had o...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
what really is 'chill'? what is cr?
Umber curious goyim
  03/11/24
I basically use 2 brands: 1. Marriott (I'm Platinum in Bo...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
>If you travel a lot with large dogs then you can't beat ...
Slimy sneaky criminal house
  03/11/24
They're great pyrenees.
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
is Marriot Bonvoy member prestigious?
unholy trump supporter puppy
  03/11/24
Marriott, even if this means supporting MORMONISM
Obsidian misunderstood market
  03/11/24
Explain.
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
the Marriott famliy are LDS. ever wonder why they always hav...
Obsidian misunderstood market
  03/11/24
LMAO, I stay at Marriott properties at least a few days a mo...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
lol Mitt Romney is literally named after Willard Marriott
Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage
  03/11/24
I'm still upset about the fact that it rhymes with Harriet. ...
boyish private investor
  03/11/24
Hyatt is by far the best rewards program to be top tier in
glassy haunted graveyard ape
  03/11/24
Not in enough places, not pet friendly enough, and the combo...
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24
Hyatt points are by far the most valuable and i dont spend e...
geriatric impressive stage
  03/11/24
They're worth more but harder to earn.
emerald odious keepsake machete native
  03/11/24


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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:48 AM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

Q is limited to business hotel chains like marriott, hyatt, hilton, radisson, etc. we're not talking about luxe / boutique chains.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482751)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: talented charcoal stage foreskin

If you book a hotel based on brand and not based on the specific logistical needs of your trip and other practical considerations, you're a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484666)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:53 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

whatever it is you need to pick one and stick with it. Marriottt is probably the best in terms of ubiquity and quality though they are annoying about a lot of shit.

I used to be a fan of Starwood before they got taken over by Marriottt. Fewer hotels but they had a much better points structure than others.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482757)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:01 AM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

disagree re sticking with one. hotel status is flame unless ur traveling an shitton and getting the highest tier status and even then, the benefits are still kinda worthless flame.

airline loyalty to get airline status is far more important because the difference between Y and F/J is light years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482767)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:07 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

depends on how much you travel I guess. It's easier to actually use the points when they're all under one chain vs. spread around, like I just stayed in a Hilton a few weeks ago for the first time in years and I doubt I'll ever use the few points from that trip. status is mostly flame I agree.

airline status you're competing with wagecucks with up in the air jobs who fly on company dime constantly and with the RSFs of the world. that's an uphill battle to get any meaningful benefit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482776)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:10 AM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

does anyone accumulate a useful amount of points from staying at hotels (assuming ur not a frequent biz traveler), as opposed to opening up credit cards?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482783)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:12 AM
Author: Bull headed parlour boiling water

ive racked up a fair amount of hyatt points and theyve been pretty easy to redeem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482790)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:38 PM
Author: Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house

Between stays, ccard spend on those stays and various bonuses I end up with close to 1mm Bonvoy pts/year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483225)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:05 AM
Author: Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house

I have Marriott Ambassador and LHW Aurelien status and they almost always give us upgrades to suites. That being said we are not strictly brand loyal and pick whatever the best hotel is and stay at lots of indies, FS, MO, Aman, Pen, Etc as well…

You can get 40 Bonvoy nights w the credit card and they have a lot of double stay credit bonuses if you’re staying at their high end properties it’s easy to meet Ambassador spend. LHW however is invite only and straight spend no idea where the cutoff is.

Hilton and Hyatt don’t have enough at the high end and Hyatt footprint is too small.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482961)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:34 AM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

tbf, a suite upgrade is pretty worthless to me -- and i imagine it's worthless to most business travelers, and the vest majority of leisure travelers who are couples, as opposed to families -- especially relative to Y vs F/J. who is spending that much time in the room that a suite really affects your QOL? if ur with a family, a suite upgrade seems like a way to save on a second room.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483029)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:37 AM
Author: Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house

Always nice to have more space

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483038)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

yeah it's an "always nice" thing whereas F/J vs Y is the difference between absolutely miserable hell and not blowing ur brains out...

if the room isnt some bullshit urban style closet, a normal room is perfectly fine for 2 people. but if its some closet bullshit room, then..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483053)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:46 AM
Author: Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house

I am obv on board with F/J flying. Should be a Soo CR year of flying, already had a few great LH F and QSuite legs so far in ‘24.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483058)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:34 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

90% of the time I pay with points I accumulate on my credit card for hotels. You can get the credit cards that also get you elite status and kill two birds with one stone.

For airlines I generally just buy first class anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484018)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:04 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

I'm Marriott Bonvoy Platinum and it's a big deal for me. 4pm checkout means that if you have morning meetings the day you're checking out that you can often go to the hotel, shower and change into non-business clothes before heading to the airport. Also, you get free premium internet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483253)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:15 PM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

who needs premium internet to poast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483256)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

Slow internet is 120.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483599)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 3:01 PM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

ive never had slow internet other than when the nullo spammer is at it or tsinah is archiving the boart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483636)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:06 PM
Author: Comical set

Just use the Internet in the office. You only need it in your room to maybe catch up on a show you've been watching before you pass out drunk/exhausted at 2 AM, IME

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483399)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:55 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

It is nice to be able to wake up, take a meeting, then head in or do work after hours and not feel like you're on slow internet.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483597)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:54 AM
Author: Bull headed parlour boiling water

id go hyatt > marriott > hilton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482758)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 9:57 AM
Author: iridescent gas station blood rage

I have been in a terrible Hyatt Regency. Marriott is a good consistent product at all price bands.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482762)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:11 AM
Author: boyish private investor

i have a Hilton credit card, but probably picked the wrong horse. Marriotts and Hyatts overall seem better and are usually more convenient/widespread. Hilton points are pretty easy to get and use though. Haven't paid for a hotel out of pocket in a long time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482787)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:13 AM
Author: Exciting international law enforcement agency faggot firefighter

i never remember the quality of hotels i stay in much less a pattern for each brand name.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482793)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:18 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

Marriottt gives you exactly three towels no matter what even if you list 4 or more ppl on the res. they also stopped giving out single use shampoo etc bottles and use communal bottles mounted in the shower wall instead. people like DBG pee/jizz in/on them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482997)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:35 AM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

u know the mounted communal bottles that have they keys to open them? im sure theres a universal key u can get for $2 on ebay to jizz in them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483032)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 11:47 AM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

last marriott I stayed in I was given an accessible room so the bottles were right at dick level in the shower. it was only one night so decided to forego shampoo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483061)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:36 PM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

who doesnt bring their own shampoo?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483220)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

everyone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483221)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

gross. we r all jacking off (in the shampoos)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483224)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

most are too high up for that to work. the number of ppl who can shoot 3 foot ropes vertical or will go through the trouble to detach the bottle from the wall is probably pretty small.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483250)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:31 PM
Author: Amber Exhilarant Personal Credit Line Locale

(guy who rubbed my jizz all over his hair, face and body)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483321)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:21 PM
Author: yellow brethren travel guidebook

Hotel shampoo cummers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483269)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:15 AM
Author: mind-boggling plaza

Probably Marriott. But there’s something magical about crushing a bowl of fruit loops in my Jos A Bank suit at the local La Quinta.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482800)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 10:31 AM
Author: iridescent gas station blood rage

froots loop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47482852)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:08 PM
Author: mind-boggling plaza

Paired with a black coffee, trebble sugar.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483408)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:30 PM
Author: Thriller self-absorbed tattoo

None of the above, quality varies yugely and unpredictably within each brand, tcr is to take 5 seconds & compare reviews then book on priceline or another OTA where the discount usually will more than compensate for not earning ‘points’

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483194)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:32 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

do you not earn points when you book through a 3rd party site?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483201)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 12:35 PM
Author: Maroon bearded black woman step-uncle's house

You do not. It's also retarded to book through an OTA, at least for nice hotels. Your TA can get the hotel to match best OTA price but still apply the virtuoso or other benefits & earning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483213)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:25 PM
Author: Amber Exhilarant Personal Credit Line Locale

Post-Starwood acquisition it’s been Marriott by a mile for most people. Marriott has always had a lead in terms of the family road trip coverage, but Starwood gave them so much more at the higher end and in big cities. It’s definitely a more local/regional question and I don’t pretend to know the specifics for someone who lives in the Midwest. But for us there’s every option we need in all the bigger cities we travel to regularly. Eg nicer ones that are great if wife and I can snag a night for the kids with grandparents or aunts and we want to do something cool in town for a birthday or anniversary, a hotel near my in-laws that is a legit resort with a 180 golf course and water park plus a spa and various special events, and when I have to go to my nieces graduation in BFE there’s a Marriott that’s the closest major chain. IMO at least in Texas and CA it’s the McDonald’s to all the other chains fighting to be Wendy’s and Jack in the Box.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483289)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 1:27 PM
Author: Demanding resort indirect expression

Marriott

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483299)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:10 PM
Author: Comical set

Hilton is easy to rack up points and there are several more places to find them in rural Midwest when I'm visiting family and want a free room.

Marriott is where most of my conferences used to be and seem higher quality in general but I stopped going to conferences after March 2020

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483411)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:25 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

I've had a few Hiltons with legit paper-thin walls. I had one in Texas where the guy next door was calling his kids before school at 5:30am and I could hear every fucking word as though he were standing right next to me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483961)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:12 PM
Author: Umber curious goyim

what really is 'chill'?

what is cr?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483416)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 2:58 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

I basically use 2 brands:

1. Marriott (I'm Platinum in Bonvoy). Tons of locations, mid-range chains are actually quite nice, rewards program includes some nice perks (really late checkout, free internet). They have good credit cards that lets you earn points very quickly.

2. IHG (I'm Platinum here too). If you travel a lot with large dogs then you can't beat Kimptons. They all accept dogs with no size limits and with no extra fee. A lot of InterContinentals are dog friendly too. Their best credit card is very cheap and generates points like crazy and gives you Platinum status right away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483608)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 3:02 PM
Author: Slimy sneaky criminal house

>If you travel a lot with large dogs then you can't beat Kimptons.

is this tmf and his shitpit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483641)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 3:51 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

They're great pyrenees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483806)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 3:02 PM
Author: unholy trump supporter puppy

is Marriot Bonvoy member prestigious?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483643)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:29 PM
Author: Obsidian misunderstood market

Marriott, even if this means supporting MORMONISM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47483974)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

Explain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484000)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:35 PM
Author: Obsidian misunderstood market

the Marriott famliy are LDS. ever wonder why they always have a Book of Mormon in the bedside table?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484020)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:36 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

LMAO, I stay at Marriott properties at least a few days a month and have never noticed this. Ok, I'll be sure to look for that next week.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484034)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 5:03 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone claret theater stage

lol Mitt Romney is literally named after Willard Marriott

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484139)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:32 PM
Author: boyish private investor

I'm still upset about the fact that it rhymes with Harriet. I'm going to rhyme it with yacht until I die

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484001)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 4:35 PM
Author: glassy haunted graveyard ape

Hyatt is by far the best rewards program to be top tier in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484024)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

Not in enough places, not pet friendly enough, and the combo of the two kept me from getting into that chain.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5502591&forum_id=2#47484654)



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Date: March 11th, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: geriatric impressive stage

Hyatt points are by far the most valuable and i dont spend enough time in hotels for the other factors to really compare in significance.

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Date: March 11th, 2024 8:13 PM
Author: emerald odious keepsake machete native

They're worth more but harder to earn.

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