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Calling it: 5 to 4 it's not a 1A violation for govt to work with SM companies.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:51 PM Author: ivory haunting church I could see Gorsuch agreeing even maybe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504623) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:55 PM Author: Slap-happy Bright Water Buffalo Ticket Booth what is SM and why is it bad thing if SM workwith govt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504640) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: ivory haunting church cq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504658) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:00 PM Author: Slap-happy Bright Water Buffalo Ticket Booth i thoguht the govt is guaranteed to oscillate betweeen 1 of 2 choice so why it matters if its work with govt if its guaranteed to be undone 4 year lateR? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504664) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:07 PM Author: ivory haunting church iirc some analysis showed that there was a lot more contact during the Drumpf administration. I'm sure they all want to do it, just on different issues. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504690) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:13 PM Author: vermilion pit but not weekly meetings with the FBI and a hotline to the trust and safety heads (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504710) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:14 PM Author: Mind-boggling fantasy-prone plaza and the tech cos were full of ex-IC people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504717) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:16 PM Author: vermilion pit yeah, that was probably the most egregious part, just send an FBI agent directly in to be GC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504724) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:16 PM Author: Mind-boggling fantasy-prone plaza it's true they both sides want to. only the libs have the cultural power to pull it off rn.
at the Congressional hearings some lib woman kept testifying "the Trump people tried to do it too -- and we blocked that!" as if that was helping the libs' argument. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:00 PM Author: At-the-ready hairy legs crackhouse sure. and the contact was along the lines of 'why do you keep promoting lies against the trump administration?' rather than dem contact being 'please promote the following lies against the trump administration' |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:01 PM Author: vermilion pit the dem stuff was much worse, more like "please hide the following accounts no matter what they post because we hates them" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505027) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:06 PM Author: At-the-ready hairy legs crackhouse great, so we lose drake, but get to keep disingenuous scumball epah. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505045) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:38 PM Author: Flatulent volcanic crater social media companies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505360) |
Date: March 18th, 2024 4:53 PM Author: vermilion pit it is obviously horseshit and shouldn't be allowed but I'm not sure they have any specific evidence of coercion (which was of course heavily implied) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504630) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:54 PM Author: ivory haunting church (reasonable moderate)
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:56 PM Author: vermilion pit in a just world the court would recognize the change in circumstances and invent a new test (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504647) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:05 PM Author: At-the-ready hairy legs crackhouse should be 'easy' enough to find did any social media companies get the government requests and not accommodate them? what happened? did all of these bitch companies who got the requests not accommodate them right away? what happened? |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:41 PM Author: vermilion pit you don't have to actually shoot somebody to have assaulted them with a deadly weapon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505880) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:53 PM Author: Mewling business firm milk I pray you're wrong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504632) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:56 PM Author: Ruddy nursing home this case makes me angrier than any other (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504643) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:56 PM Author: Mind-boggling fantasy-prone plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504646) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:57 PM Author: Claret bespoke travel guidebook Yes they were just working with them lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504650) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 4:59 PM Author: Mind-boggling fantasy-prone plaza we know that the political types are partisan as hell and that they have partisan motives and got caught censoring on partisan grounds (eg, the Russians created Hunter's laptop!).
but then in the questions from Jackson and Barrett they act as if the censoring feds are pure and noble and are simply trying to protect us.
jfc.
after the Fairness Doctrine died, one of the bureaucrats said, "yes of course we used it to push our political narratives and punish our opponents'.
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:02 PM Author: ivory haunting church SCOTUS likes to write opinions that set forth rules, not decide specific cases. The case isn't about Hunter's laptop. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504671) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:11 PM Author: Mind-boggling fantasy-prone plaza the laptop was an example of how this works. the actual case involved, among other things, the feds shutting down a Stanford professor who voiced the opinion that COVID didn't deeply threaten kids and that schools should remain open.
my point still remains: if we base the rule on the assumption that politcians and partisans are neutrals who act only in the common good we are ignoring law, history, and reality. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:21 PM Author: ivory haunting church Confession: I don't know anything about this. It's still a good thread though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504734) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:44 PM Author: carmine galvanic hunting ground generalized bond you've started a conversation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504977) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:04 PM Author: swashbuckling confused address If the White House can send a request to Twitter to remove stolen nudes of Hunter Biden how is this America? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504684) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:06 PM Author: ivory haunting church We don't have a country anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504689) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:15 PM Author: overrated sooty library partner justices seemed pretty hostile to the states at oral argument, i think the us wins the case. barrett and roberts with the libs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504721) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:23 PM Author: Mind-boggling fantasy-prone plaza jfc that would put a nail in the coffin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504743) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: overrated sooty library partner Jackson in particular seems to hold the 1A in low regard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504751) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:37 PM Author: big-titted field she can't read cursive (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505353) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:20 PM Author: Ruddy nursing home the fate of the republic turns on a birdbrain and a closeted pedophile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504913) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:36 PM Author: Adventurous Institution Boltzmann What’s the argument that it would be a violation? As far as I recall case law has always said govt has a right to speak (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504953) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:39 PM Author: vermilion pit coercing a private actor to take action that it would be unconstitutional for the gov't itself to take, but yes this is the problem with the case, they can bitch about things if they want (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504959) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:48 PM Author: Adventurous Institution Boltzmann The problem is the govt clearly already does that in a bunch of other ways that are actually coercive whereas here afaik it was just a request. Eg all the strings attached $$$ that force companies and states to basically do whatever the govt wants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47504990) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 6:57 PM Author: vermilion pit it wasn't just a request, they pretty transparently sent senior intelligence officials to run large sections of the companies, then set up official channels to flag content they wanted removed with an expectation that it would be, just because there isn't an email saying "or else" doesn't make it not corrupt as all fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505013) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:40 PM Author: Adventurous Institution Boltzmann Im not disagreeing. I just don’t think it’s worse than what the govt already does elsewhere and if anything the coercion is less clear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505174) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:39 PM Author: Trip bronze menage death wish what are these bunches of other things the government does that are worse and fully legal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505364) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:44 PM Author: Adventurous Institution Boltzmann See below. They’re allowed to literally give/withhold cash to get anyone to do or say what they want. They’re allowed to do that but you don’t think they can simply ask them to do what they want? Seems unlikely (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505663) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:42 PM Author: vermilion pit they actually aren't, that was a key part of the obamacare ruling back in the day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505884) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:16 PM Author: ultramarine vengeful church building tank Suppose the only town square is privately owned and the local authorities say that if they don't like the demonstrations taking place, they'll turn the screws on the property owner, so obey when the government says to shut down speech. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505092) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:28 PM Author: Mewling business firm milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505131) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:43 PM Author: Adventurous Institution Boltzmann Suppose all the nations institutions of learning whether state or privately owned can either effectively shutdown or adopt a bunch of govt viewpoints and programs … (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505181) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 10:36 PM Author: Trip bronze menage death wish i don't understand what you're talking about, can you be more specific (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505869) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:14 PM Author: ultramarine vengeful church building tank Let me guess: The three libs and the two "R" women (Roberts and ACB) think it was ok because they were scared shitless of covid and wiped their groceries clean for months. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505086) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:42 PM Author: Light station lettuce So at the very same moment that the government is contemplating banning the #1 social media app among youths simply because they don't like its owner, they are also arguing that their powers of coercion aren't a 1A violation?
God help us all if the Court gets this one wrong |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 7:54 PM Author: Mewling business firm milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505220) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 8:52 PM Author: Motley gas station mediation This is probably one of those cases where the outcome doesn't matter because we'll get a clear rule going forward. e
If the rule is "the government can make requests so long as it doesn't have a threat attached" - then all the companies going forward can at least know they can tell the government to fuck off. |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:40 PM Author: lake lascivious kitchen I am watching the oral argument and I think maybe only Thomas goes in favor of freedom. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505636) |
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Date: March 18th, 2024 9:41 PM Author: overrated sooty library partner alito is solid too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5505808&forum_id=2#47505648) |