https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-homicide-rates-fell-2023/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47512623)

that’s unqualified good news. i feel like the reporting is incomplete though. where does 2023’s rate stand compared to the time before libs formed the cult of floyd? do you happen to know? that data would be useful in evaluating the overall trend of crime imo. i find it a little odd that our free and independent media didn’t dig into that a little more thoroughly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514027)

"i feel like the reporting is incomplete though"

You're more literally correct that you even know, friend:

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514798

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514805)

“We will await the data that our leader reports to us”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514792)

Sorry Trumpkin, but EPAH "do[esn't] care fag."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47516039)

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm...

https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/cities-nationwide-not-reporting-crime-data-to-fbi/

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2022/what-is-nibrs-new-fbi-data-explained/

"Incomplete data: A full third of all the police agencies in the U.S. did not submit any data to the FBI for this report, including some of the largest cities in the country. As a result, the FBI will fill in the blanks with estimates as it calculates national, state and regional crime trends and provide confidence intervals for those estimates..."

Lol Ari, did you really think we all just forgot about this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514798)

Yes, actually, you smug little self-impressed faggot. As usual, it seems like you actually don't know a lot about this subject even though you seem to fancy yourself an expert or something.

"This new pending report [i.e. the 2022 FBI Crime Data Report] will be the first time since 1991 that the FBI releases data exclusively from the newer reporting system, even though some agencies have been using it for decades."

So yes, the FBI literally switched up its own reporting methodology beginning in 2022 and it now "runs the numbers" in a way that is literally different from the way it put the report together in 2017 - 2021 (and coincidentally "leaves out" a ton of data involving crime in many of the biggest cities in America). Literally.

Thanks for asking!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514814)

I think it’s finally time to lead your redneck rebellion my friend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514818)

Whoa you said a sarcasm -- guess that means the multiple links I provided which say that the FBI is indeed literally using an entirely different methodology (which leaves out a ton of data from violent big cities hmmmmmmmmm) to put this report together now than it was prior to 2021 are incorrect and I'm just retarded and wrong as usual.

Grrr, we dull and ignorant Trumpkins just can't win against you brilliant and educated libs!

Anyway, please proceed governor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514820)

Sorry that you were demonstrably wrong about something you were trying to be a sarcastic little faggot about, got called out for being demonstrably wrong (with links to back up the refutation), and are now continuing to act like a pissy faggot bitch as though you won this exchange or something.

Maybe you should try to avoid doing that in the future if you don't like how this process works? IDK just a thought, also maybe stop mutilating children btw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514826)

Lol u mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514830)

while we’re here, i was wondering if you have any response to the substance of his poast. i know you’re a very well-educated and intelligent liberal so i thought you may like to use this opportunity to establish the superiority of your ideology. i’d just like to hear the best arguments from both sides of the aisle before i make up my mind on this issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47514899)

I see there's already one subthread full of his frantic attempts to hit dat cancel. Can we make it two?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515536)

And sorry, no, the total number of violent crimes in 2022 was about the same as the numbers in 2018-2019 (the per capita rate was lower). And 2023 was lower still:

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/query

I love the way that reptiles will just literally make shit up rather than acknowledge that crime went down under a Democrat.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515563)

what do you attribute to this reduction? is it biden's economic miracle despite everyone feeling more economically insecure than they did before? was it defunding the police? perhaps there was something about the lockdowns that you shoved down our throats that led to this?

i'm sincerely thrilled the homicide rate is down and i don't care at all that it happened under a democrat potus. unlike you guys i like to see good things happen regardless of whose "team" is in charge. now, what exactly would you attribute this reduction from?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515502)

the fact you think cons would be mad about this, even when one tells you he's happy, is reflective of your own mindset. you'd love for the murder rate to go up for some reason under a con administration. so long as it's scoring points for your team, even if it's the literal murder of your fellow citizens, you're all for it. because this is all just entertainment for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515512)

Just in case that was a serious question, my answer is that notwithstanding the spike in crime during the pandemic in 2020-2021, crime has been steadily decreasing for decades. My guess is that this had very little to do with Biden and more to do with this long-term trend. And the question of why crime starting declining in the early 90's is a hotly debated question that has kept a lot of sociologists employed. It was probably due to a large number of different factors is the short summary. If I wanted to be highly sympathetic to Biden, I might suggest that his loose fiscal policy kept unemployment low, which probably lowered crime a bit. But I think the decrease is mostly due to the long-term trend that was completely unrelated to Biden.

And for the record, I am slightly left of center moderate who is not a fan of either Biden or Trump. I just think it's hilarious to watch the reptiles lose their shit ITT, just as the OP predicted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515532)

Also, LJL at "ending emergency pandemic provisions pushed by [Biden's] party." Who was the president in 2020? I can't remember.

As I said before, I don't think the increase in crime in 2020-2021 had anything to do with Trump or Biden, nor do I think the decrease since 2021 had anything to do with Biden. I just think it's hilarious that people will make all kinds of ridiculous claims to give credit to their side and avoid giving credit to the other side.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515603)

And yes, homicides are still slightly higher than they were in 2019, although they have been trending down rapidly since 2021. If you look at all crime (or even all violent crimes), the rate is already lower than it was in 2023.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515580)

yeah man, poor black criminals are *yuge* trumpmos! although, not a lot of emphasis was placed on *who* was committing "hate crimes" against asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515620)

But like I said, I'm speculating. I don't really know for sure. But once again, I ask: Who was the fucking president when crime started to rise in 2020? It's incredibly lulzy that reptiles want to blame Biden for the spike in crime when he was a fucking private citizen at the time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515618)

and what are you saying here? yeah, trump initiated all this shit. but he also gets a lot of shit for not doing enough. so which is it? should he have done less to mitigate the negative effects of the policy? or should he have done more, which would have increased the negative consequences?

i don't know where you stand on covid policy so i'm not attributing this to you personally. but as a group, it seems unfair for trump to be blamed for the increase in crime caused by covid lockdowns while also criticizing him for not doing enough. especially when the democrats were simultaneously advocating for defunding the police during a time crime was dramatically increasing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515644)

But that's beside the point. I'm not trying to say that Trump deserves to be blamed because crime increased after an unprecedented public health experiment (i.e., general lockdowns) had unintended consequences. I'm just pointing out the ridiculousness of blaming Biden/the Democrats for the increase in crime in 2020. (For example, I think a more accurate version of your statement would be, "a few idiot lefties at rallies and on the Internet advocated defunding the police, and mainstream Democrats immediately tried to disassociate themselves from them.") People always want to blame the other side when something bad happens but not give them any credit when something good happens. Personally, I would say that law enforcement has always been primarily a state/local issue in the U.S., so it's pretty absurd to give credit/blame for an increase/decrease in crime to POTUS.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515701)

national policy can take years for the effects to start coming it. especially things like the economy. elsewhere itt i talked about inflation raging under biden's watch. obviously this was primarily due to supply chain issues caused by the global pandemic. combined with near 0% interest rates for decades, which occurred under the watch of both gop and democratic administrations. you can criticize him for his response in mitigating it, but he's not responsible for the raise itself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515711)

Ergo, under a Dem POTUS, crime always goes down.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47515556)

Lol u mad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5506991&forum_id=2#47516962)