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Anti-cigarette movement was huge social change, little discussed
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:58 AM Author: aphrodisiac ocher spot An absolutely top-down feat of social engineering that spanned about two and a half decades and worked 100%.
Gen-Xers grew up with smoking in planes, smoking in McDonalds, ashtrays everywhere. And now its completely gone.
Anyone lighting a cigarette, who doesnt have 100% or 0% social status, is stigmatized heavily.
There's no pushback, no serious voices demanding smoking rooms in offices or whatever.
It all happened very quickly and affected all corners of society. |
Date: March 25th, 2024 10:02 AM Author: coral shaky principal's office degenerate It helped that cigs smell awful, stink everything up, and are harmful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524288) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 10:03 AM Author: Mildly autistic bbw deer antler decline of smoking has been horrible for the overall health of Americans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524289) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 10:03 AM Author: drunken self-absorbed abode ratface Really wild when you think how society was engineered to cater to smokers back then, like all cars coming with ashtrays and cigarette lighters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524290) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 10:32 AM Author: aphrodisiac ocher spot ashtrays were everywhere.
all the airplane seats had them in the arm
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:10 PM Author: Peach free-loading private investor Even in my childhood, whenever we went to a restaurant, we were asked if we wanted to be seated in "smoking or non" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524631) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 10:04 AM Author: Sadistic patrolman antidepressant drug Now there’s fat people everywhere (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524294) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 10:33 AM Author: learning disabled flesh potus orchestra pit there should be "fats" sections on planes and in restaurants (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524346) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:00 PM Author: harsh genital piercing rigor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524601) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:00 PM Author: drunken self-absorbed abode ratface (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524603) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:37 PM Author: coral shaky principal's office degenerate You have to evenly distribute them, otherwise planes would capsize (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524701) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:08 PM Author: Cerise Knife Coldplay Fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526255) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:58 AM Author: mind-boggling forum A lot of people fairly or unfairly blamed smoking for causing cancer in themselves or relatives (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524596) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:00 PM Author: sinister bawdyhouse feces I can't stand that woketards are OK with people ODing on fentanyl on the streets but still have fucking nazi attitudes toward smoking. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524605) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:07 PM Author: nubile topaz elastic band liquid oxygen The pernicious myth of "secondhand smoke" was the first true disinformation public health campaign in American history. The dose-response needed for secondhand smoke to affect you requires you to be exposed to it at a significant level--really, only spouses or children who are living in a home with someone who smokes in the home. Because of the war waged against the tobacco industry, they treated any passive exposure on the far side of a bar or restaurant for 45 minutes as "deadly" to your health. This exaggerated effect of secondhand smoke spun so far out of control that the only way to end the negative externalities was to ban it everywhere. Total and complete insane win for the public health lobby. That win was parlayed to dozens of other insanely harmful causes, from "anyone can get AIDS" to "we need to mask children in schools to stop COVID." Meanwhile, these same fuckers have absolutely nothing to say about marijuana or automobiles. Complete inversion of priorities from an industry captured by insane out of whack people. |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:09 PM Author: opaque new version volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524626) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:10 PM Author: Laughsome Pontificating Sneaky Criminal (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524633) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:14 PM Author: aphrodisiac ocher spot for better or worse, it was a complete make-over of american society, and it happened lickety-split with minimal pushback and total success, and as I wrote, it was entirely non-democratic.
depressing in a sense, but also can be viewed with some optimism. a regime that took such a stance towards, say, cell phones or pornography or promiscuity or some other perceived "ill", could likely quash it within 30 years.
imagine some butlerian movement from the top which sought to eliminate the public use of smart phones. its doable |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 1:38 PM Author: Razzle macaca boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524797) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:17 PM Author: jade toaster >non-democratic
yeah we should've taken a "vote" on whether you can fill our public spaces with your cancersmoke |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 3:08 PM Author: Balding histrionic old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525054) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 3:29 PM Author: poppy school cafeteria porn and cell phones aren't at all comparable to secondhand smoke. the case for banning smoking in public environments is straightforward - why should i have to breath the smoke from some asshole? there isn't a clear cut negative externality from porn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525106) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:15 PM Author: black mad-dog skullcap They have a lot to say about cars & have regulated them into feminine suv crossover blobs? 180 otherwise (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524646) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:19 PM Author: racy library shitlib This seems right, although I think there a much more compelling case to be made to protect, eg, bartenders and waiters (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524654) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:23 PM Author: aphrodisiac ocher spot We've solved the nicotine distribution problem with mouth pouches.
I have been an on-again, off-again smoker for many years, but even I get irate when I get stunk up with someone else's smoke. It is nauseating and a nuisance and if I had an officemate chain smoking Id get one of us the fuck out of there.
nonetheless it was an odd choice for a total social re-do, and it happened so swiftly and quietly that its remarkable. There are a million things more pernicious for individuals and society that go unaddressed. Nor does anyone even really acknolwedge that sometimes the leaders just swoop in and make changes |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:55 PM Author: racy library shitlib No lies detected (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524756) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 4:10 PM Author: Charismatic crimson regret I think it helps that tobacco smoke smells terrible like you say. It only took the smallest of pushes (say, for waiters and bartenders) and everyone was like yeah that shit stinks let's ban it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525231) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:08 PM Author: Cerise Knife Coldplay Fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526250) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:43 PM Author: Shimmering business firm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524990) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:28 PM Author: Big Transparent Stag Film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525602) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: Cobalt coffee pot it's not clear what the true motivation was. it clearly wasn't 'public health'. maybe southern-fried Big Tobacco shut Jews out of their profits or something.
it was a bonanza for the (((lawyers))) who got those massive 900b paydays. |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 1:34 PM Author: sapphire legal warrant Cigs were cool and libs hate things that are cool (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524781) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 1:38 PM Author: Razzle macaca boistinker (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524800) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:04 PM Author: Startled theatre mood Does a single model of car still come with a cig lighter standard? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524877) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:14 PM Author: Mildly autistic bbw deer antler how else do you charge your ipod? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524907) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:27 PM Author: Multi-colored Casino I'm rocking 4 Zyns at the moment (2 upper, 2 lower) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524946) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:31 PM Author: jade toaster 720 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47524954) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 9:08 PM Author: Cerise Knife Coldplay Fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526252) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 3:06 PM Author: Startled theatre mood libs btfo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525048) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 3:19 PM Author: Electric crackhouse Am I comin' or goin'? I can barely decide I'm rocking 4 zyns at the moment, dare me to drive?
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Date: March 25th, 2024 2:34 PM Author: 180 pit sound barrier I think about this often enough as I enjoy smoking but I'm also careful not to smoke too much. I cap it to a few times a year and that's it. I obviously don't do it around family and wait till work trips or when I'm confident enough to be subtle. But even though I smoke barely a hundred cigarettes a year, it's also getting harder to enjoy cigarettes without feeling tremendous amount of guilt.
Full time cigarette smoking is unquestionably unhealthy. For all the defenders of smoking, millions did die too early from it. In their 50s and 60s. It's a young man's habit but not for older people. Not everyone can successfully manage a mild social smoking habit. And it does stink, the juxtaposition between the seductive smell of a cigarette and the weird, nasty aftertaste on you is real.
On the whole we're better off a society without smoking but it's also apparent that people simply migrated from cigarettes to fast food and now weed with equally bad health outcomes. |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:22 PM Author: soul-stirring shrine It’s also weird how it really only happened in the U.S. In most other countries, the smell of tobacco still wafts everywhere and it’s no big deal for anyone to be smoking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525580) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:25 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone vivacious ticket booth newt (Big Cigarette™ CEO) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525588) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:33 PM Author: Sticky White Pervert The rollout of smoking bans was America's high water mark. Society put its foot down and firmly said, "no, you can't just be noxious to strangers in public.". We need more of that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525608) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 6:49 PM Author: Exhilarant telephone haunted graveyard My prole co-workers are obsessed with their "smoke breaks" and always smell terrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47525656) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 10:17 PM Author: contagious locus I think we could see something similar with social media - especially with the claws comoing out for Tik Tok.
Other than just generically being in favor of "freedom", how is America better off with all of us watching this bullshit on TikTok and Instagram?
It's heroin and we're all addicted to it... |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:42 PM Author: sapphire legal warrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526781) |
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Date: March 25th, 2024 11:59 PM Author: Cheese-eating Native Organic Girlfriend Big pharma about three decades ago want to start making a lot of profit selling nicotine patches to help people quit cigarettes and so forth.. so they started paying money to the media and to the politicians and they routed that money through non-profit foundations.. they paid politicians to pass laws and they paid the media that put out propaganda against tobacco. They used to be a really good website explaining exactly how they did it but looks like big pharma took it down.. of course you could say that you know it's a good thing that tobacco is no longer used as much.. but there's nothing quite like the truth and that's the truth but I just told you there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526811) |
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Date: March 26th, 2024 12:01 AM Author: Floppy gas station turdskin ITT: literally fucktarded inconsistent cumskins whine about inconsistency (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526816) |
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Date: March 26th, 2024 12:15 AM Author: know-it-all orchid keepsake machete lettuce I didn't really mind it at first because a lot of the best conversations that you'd have at bars & whatnot just shifted outside where it was easier to talk anyway.
But over time, smoking has become less and less popular and now you can't really count on a critical mass of people to share a cig with. |
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Date: March 26th, 2024 12:24 AM Author: crystalline philosopher-king Tobacco was a massive profitable industry devoid of Jewish influence. That couldn’t continue. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526857) |
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Date: March 26th, 2024 12:44 AM Author: Dead Marvelous Area Death Wish btw its ok to smoke weed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5508729&forum_id=2#47526875) |