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Musk has lost $51 billion so far this year

https://autos.yahoo.com/elon-musks-wealth-crashed-160-082025...
black charismatic double fault menage
  04/17/24
It's all fake made up lies
odious locus gunner
  04/17/24
To be fair, *farts cum*
sooty point boltzmann
  04/17/24
worth it for being able to post BASED alt-light black IQ sta...
avocado marvelous center
  04/17/24
...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
what does this place want from him he runs three successfu...
French indirect expression
  04/17/24
actually he didn’t build Tesla or Twitter, he just bou...
Cerebral mexican mood
  04/17/24
never said he "built" twitter he ran Tesla years...
French indirect expression
  04/17/24
To be fair, "Ackkkkkkkkkkshually, Elon didn't build ...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
To go back to Africa
racy business firm
  04/17/24
...
racy business firm
  04/17/24
So you're saying Eron Muks is not a billionaire now? Is that...
carmine territorial public bath
  04/17/24
To be fair, Thanks to all of the retarded bullshit he's p...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
fourth https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/?embedded-c...
Disgusting Circlehead Plaza
  04/17/24
To be fair, Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
Bill Gates would be far ahead of him, but has donated like $...
Disgusting Circlehead Plaza
  04/17/24
To be fair, Yeah well Elon Musk would be far ahead of Bil...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
?? Elon Musk has never done dumb shit, he is an infallible v...
Disgusting Circlehead Plaza
  04/17/24
I wish he focused just on SpaceX. He’s too smart and h...
turquoise insanely creepy mad cow disease
  04/17/24
180, fuck that cunt
big-titted cruise ship
  04/17/24
What will he do with only $178 billion?
mauve station
  04/17/24
To be fair, Hard to say, but here's how poor Elon Musk is...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
He is 52. Assume he lives to 92. 40 x 365 x 1 million = $1...
mauve station
  04/17/24
To be fair, Yeah I just didn't want to go all the way her...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
...
mauve station
  04/17/24
...
Emerald school cafeteria weed whacker
  04/17/24
"The Tesla CEO is now worth about $178 billion, down fr...
mauve station
  04/17/24
To be fair, Quotemo on XO: "LOL yeah embarrassing, t...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
The human condition is such that having $1 billion dollars m...
mauve station
  04/17/24
...
Tantric sick national macaca
  04/17/24
his annual ROI in the past 2 year hasn't been 5%, it has bee...
Disgusting Circlehead Plaza
  04/17/24
To be fair, CR, so he's fukt like OP said. IT'S OVER.
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
Reread what I wrote. It doesn't matter at all. If it is -2...
mauve station
  04/17/24
To be fair, http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
Ok, so I decided to do some math because these numbers are a...
mauve station
  04/17/24
To be fair, Lmao Elon Musk can lock in guaranteed &quo...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
Or some of these ridiculous libs that are like "omg, th...
mauve station
  04/17/24
Lol I just realized this is another (((TMF-TBF))) circle jer...
indigo blood rage theater
  04/17/24
Oh wow what sophisticated "math," Florida Verizon ...
indigo blood rage theater
  04/17/24
To be fair, So his calculations were wrong and he's dumb?...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/18/24
Actually I do have $50 million
Comical Insecure Feces Private Investor
  04/17/24
How did you get $50 million?
mauve station
  04/17/24
To be fair, The magic of the internet
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/17/24
the crazy part is he still spends a good amount of his time ...
Azure pervert
  04/17/24
To be fair, That's the least crazy part of this, at the e...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/18/24
My God. The imaginary monopoly money "value" of &q...
Tantric sick national macaca
  04/17/24
fuaark lib op is he going to be ok w only 250b?
Flickering National Security Agency Office
  04/17/24
$149B
Disgusting Circlehead Plaza
  04/17/24
Oh fuck, he only owns the #1 car company, #1 spaceship compa...
Slap-happy roommate ceo
  04/17/24
He’ll probably keep watching Rick and Morty and beggin...
racy business firm
  04/17/24
He could singehandedly finance the Ukraine aid bill stuck in...
Emerald school cafeteria weed whacker
  04/17/24
Last month he realized a self-driving update that let me dri...
hyperactive flesh alpha degenerate
  04/17/24
To be fair, Lol CR Also worth noting that there's a sp...
Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan
  04/18/24
the only Jewish pumo ITT is your buddy TMF
sooty point boltzmann
  04/18/24
i heard he lost loads of money when neuralink successfully d...
Red floppy university pisswyrm
  04/17/24
Wow
Dull heaven
  04/18/24


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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:25 PM
Author: black charismatic double fault menage

https://autos.yahoo.com/elon-musks-wealth-crashed-160-082025816.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591866)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: odious locus gunner

It's all fake made up lies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591917)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:30 PM
Author: sooty point boltzmann

To be fair,

*farts cum*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591878)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:31 PM
Author: avocado marvelous center

worth it for being able to post BASED alt-light black IQ statistics on twitter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591881)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:32 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591883)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:33 PM
Author: French indirect expression

what does this place want from him

he runs three successful cutting edge companies and has probably had more impact on things than any single person besides Trump in the past couple decades

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591886)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:54 PM
Author: Cerebral mexican mood

actually he didn’t build Tesla or Twitter, he just bought them both. also, tbf gets maf when you point this out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591959)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:59 PM
Author: French indirect expression

never said he "built" twitter

he ran Tesla years before they sold their first car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591978)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:02 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

"Ackkkkkkkkkkshually, Elon didn't build that!"

Lol yeah I get furious when retard Pumos say laughably stupid shit like this, I'm definitely not just chuckling at how retarded they are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591985)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:21 PM
Author: racy business firm

To go back to Africa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592032)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:21 PM
Author: racy business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592030)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:33 PM
Author: carmine territorial public bath

So you're saying Eron Muks is not a billionaire now? Is that what you are arguing in the OP?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591884)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:39 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Thanks to all of the retarded bullshit he's pulled Musk is only the third (3rd) richest man in the world now, he deserves to take some shit from the Quotemo OP, IMO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591898)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:40 PM
Author: Disgusting Circlehead Plaza

fourth

https://www.bloomberg.com/billionaires/?embedded-checkout=true

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591905)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:40 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591907)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:41 PM
Author: Disgusting Circlehead Plaza

Bill Gates would be far ahead of him, but has donated like $56B and got divorced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591912)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:48 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Yeah well Elon Musk would be far ahead of Bill Gates if he hadn't done the dumb shit he did, either. Any Hillary Clinton would now be an ex-POTUS if she had won in 2016.

Any other brilliant insights you want to share with us, faggot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591934)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:49 PM
Author: Disgusting Circlehead Plaza

?? Elon Musk has never done dumb shit, he is an infallible visionary and generational genius, literally the smartest man ever to walk the Earth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591936)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:37 PM
Author: turquoise insanely creepy mad cow disease

I wish he focused just on SpaceX. He’s too smart and has too important a vision for humanity to spend as much time as he does squabbling on Twitter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591894)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:38 PM
Author: big-titted cruise ship

180, fuck that cunt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591897)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:40 PM
Author: mauve station

What will he do with only $178 billion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591908)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:47 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Hard to say, but here's how poor Elon Musk is now that he fucked up and ruined it all:

If Musk takes all of that out in cash (so that he has to suffer the full cost of inflation on all of his assets every year) and divests from everything else he owns and permanently quits his job in order to ensure that he never makes another cent of "profit" for the rest his life... and then, to REALLY punish himself for his idiocy, he begins ritually burning an amount of cash money equivalent to ~45 year old Tommy Turdskin's total lifetime networth (~$1 million) on an altar every single day until the day that he dies (and let's assume that he lives into his mid-90s)... he will still *easily* take his last breath as a multi-billionaire and end his days as one of the richest men to ever walk on the planet.

That's how badly he fucked up here. God, it's so over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591927)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:55 PM
Author: mauve station

He is 52. Assume he lives to 92. 40 x 365 x 1 million = $14.6 billion. That's nothing to a guy worth 178 billion. He could burn $10 million every single day and it is still only $146 billion and he would still die with $32 billion, assuming he never made a single additional dollar.

When you do the math it is just ridiculous. This guy could be horny on a Friday night and see Sydney Sweeney in a movie, call her up and be like "I'll pay you $100 million to fuck me all weekend long." And she'll take it because that's a life changing amount of money even for her, a very successful Hollywood actress. And Elon won't even notice that money being gone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591964)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:58 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Yeah I just didn't want to go all the way here and make Tommy feel even worse if he reads this, but if we're really just being brutal with it then for pure shits and giggles Musk could afford to burn the cash equivalent of THE COMBINED TOTAL NET WORTH OF ALL CURRENT XO POASTERS (maaaaybe exluding Exeunt and RSF) every single day for the rest of his life, with no other money coming in to replenish his bank account, and he would still die an obscenely wealthy man in his 90s.

Which makes it all the more hilarious that Quotemos and Pumos love to strut around on here with their giant cocks out calling him "a fucking retard" every chance they get. "Hey, look, fact is that I was totally smart enough to make $179 billion if had wanted to do that -- BUT I *CHOSE* TO BE A STRESSED OUT PAPER-PUSHING LAWYER WITH A NET WORTH IN THE LOW SEVEN FIGURES AT 45 YEARS OLD, INSTEAD!" Haha yeah haha, same... wow, what are the odds that all of us REALLY smart guys independently made that same choice...?! ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591976)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:02 PM
Author: mauve station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591983)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:17 PM
Author: Emerald school cafeteria weed whacker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592016)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:39 PM
Author: mauve station

"The Tesla CEO is now worth about $178 billion, down from $340 billion in November 2021"

Imagine being able to burn over $150 billion and still be worth $178 billion. I doubt he loses any sleep over this at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591901)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:40 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Quotemo on XO: "LOL yeah embarrassing, that guy is such a fucking failure and a retard goddamn he should kill himself."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591906)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:44 PM
Author: mauve station

The human condition is such that having $1 billion dollars makes you basically a living god that never has to worry about money again. If you get a measly 5% ROI you are living on $50 million/year without ever touching the original $1 billion. I don't think anyone on XO has even that $50/million total, let alone per year. Elon is worth 178x more than that. It is just such a staggering amount of money that I can't imagine most of the posters here thinking that he is "pwn3d" because of a loss that he doesn't feel in any real way, nor could he ever feel because of the insane amount of money that he has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591916)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Tantric sick national macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591918)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:45 PM
Author: Disgusting Circlehead Plaza

his annual ROI in the past 2 year hasn't been 5%, it has been -28%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591920)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:47 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

CR, so he's fukt like OP said. IT'S OVER.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591930)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:50 PM
Author: mauve station

Reread what I wrote. It doesn't matter at all. If it is -28% over the next 2 years, it still won't matter. And then he could do it again over the 2 years after that. And again. And again. Because he is just that rich.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591940)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591927

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591944)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:09 PM
Author: mauve station

Ok, so I decided to do some math because these numbers are amusing. Let's say he keeps losing 28% every 2 years, which comes to 14% a year. Lets say he continues this for the rest of his life (40 years). Running the math you get that he will die with $1.13 billion ($1,130 million) despite being a horrible investor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591995)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:13 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Lmao

Elon Musk can lock in guaranteed "devastating" double digit losses on his current investments with a 0% income stream for the rest of his natural life (40+ years), and he will still die a far wealthier man than all XO Poasters *combined* (and this is a bort filled with a bunch of objectively successful upper-middle-class white collar attorneys).

Pumos and Quotemos: "LOL WHAT A RETARD"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592005)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:26 PM
Author: mauve station

Or some of these ridiculous libs that are like "omg, this made me so happy!" They are, of course, terrible at math and have no idea what any of these numbers mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592041)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:43 PM
Author: indigo blood rage theater

Lol I just realized this is another (((TMF-TBF))) circle jerk

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592078)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:44 PM
Author: indigo blood rage theater

Oh wow what sophisticated "math," Florida Verizon Jew!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592083)



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Date: April 18th, 2024 12:32 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

So his calculations were wrong and he's dumb?

Or you're just a faggot who is mad about the numbers?

Can you confirm which one it is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592912)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:47 PM
Author: Comical Insecure Feces Private Investor

Actually I do have $50 million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591931)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:50 PM
Author: mauve station

How did you get $50 million?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591942)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:01 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

The magic of the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591982)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 11:45 PM
Author: Azure pervert

the crazy part is he still spends a good amount of his time fuming about libs on "X"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592410)



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Date: April 18th, 2024 12:33 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

That's the least crazy part of this, at the end of the day time and doing what you love with your time are the two most valuable assets anyone can actually own, and Elon clearly loves fuming about libs online. (I get it.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592913)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:46 PM
Author: Tantric sick national macaca

My God. The imaginary monopoly money "value" of "the shares" has gone down in the equities marketplace.

It's over for the billionaire with infinite access to capital.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591922)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:48 PM
Author: Flickering National Security Agency Office

fuaark lib op is he going to be ok w only 250b?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591932)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 8:51 PM
Author: Disgusting Circlehead Plaza

$149B

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47591946)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:13 PM
Author: Slap-happy roommate ceo

Oh fuck, he only owns the #1 car company, #1 spaceship company and #1 social media company now. What will he do??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592006)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:21 PM
Author: racy business firm

He’ll probably keep watching Rick and Morty and begging the government for free shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592028)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:18 PM
Author: Emerald school cafeteria weed whacker

He could singehandedly finance the Ukraine aid bill stuck in Congress and still be worth $100bn I'm kinda surprised no one has asked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592020)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:34 PM
Author: hyperactive flesh alpha degenerate

Last month he realized a self-driving update that let me drive my car from a residential neighborhod, 40 miles on the highay, back to my suburban neighborhood without ever intervening.

Also, no one has delivered a flashier successful product this year than the Cyber Truck.

Crazy how high the bar is set for him that this stuff doesn't even register. Meanwhile Apple released its first hardware in years and it was huge fucking flop.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592056)



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Date: April 18th, 2024 12:36 PM
Author: Sepia hairraiser indian lodge coldplay fan

To be fair,

Lol CR

Also worth noting that there's a specific reason why that self-driving update (v12) was such a blockbuster -- it's the first code that was generated and rewritten using AI, oh and btw over the last few years Musk has spent over a billion (with a "b") dollars giving Tesla the 3rd (third) largest computing power OF ANY ORGANIZATION PUBLIC OR PRIVATE IN THE ENTIRE WORLD, which is now paying dividends in things like the v12 update. That's just the beginning, he's already said that moving forward he will be generating all new updates using this approach and relying on Tesla's RAW COMPUTING HORSEPOWER that is basically unmatched in any industry, let alone by any of his direct competitors.

But anyway I'm sure all of the Jewish liberal Pumos smirking about how Elon is FUKT and Tesla is DUN HERE already knew all of that and factored it into their astute analysis about how it's all over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592914)



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Date: April 18th, 2024 2:58 PM
Author: sooty point boltzmann

the only Jewish pumo ITT is your buddy TMF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47593215)



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Date: April 17th, 2024 9:44 PM
Author: Red floppy university pisswyrm

i heard he lost loads of money when neuralink successfully demonstrated POC, and even more when starlink successfully monopolized satellite internet. oh, you didn't include his privately held companies? well that was really fucking dumb of you, wasn't it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47592081)



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Date: April 18th, 2024 5:44 PM
Author: Dull heaven

Wow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5518912&forum_id=2#47593803)