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Date: April 20th, 2024 12:12 PM Author: alcoholic temple
Jews and the wealthy are true pieces of shit when it comes to greed.
Sadly, the propensity to lie increases as you gain more education, prestige, and wealth. Money really is a cancer that we should remove from them
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47597424) |
Date: April 21st, 2024 10:08 AM Author: Wild stage internal respiration
they shld just eliminate all taxes except for ONE (property, income, cap gains, or sales) and then they shld cap it
otherwise shitlibs just raise everything forever and ever it never stops
can anyone even explain or justify how the current rates got there, they i assume started at barely anything but went up and up, its ghastly bullshit, shitlibs are insane
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47599423) |
Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:00 AM Author: violet sanctuary gay wizard
i love how xo vehemently hates (((the elites))) but will fight tooth and nail against any tax designed to target them whatsoever.
anyone that sees bezos getting child care tax credits and using "loans" to avoid even paying a meager income tax but then gets yosemite sam fuming over a wealth tax for people worth over $100m is pretty dumb. we can debate about the best method to tax wealth, but if you're sending a third of your paycheck to taxes and are OK with billionaires paying ~1% you're just dumb and a complete cuck.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603386) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:05 AM Author: violet sanctuary gay wizard
how does taxing the rich impede the path to getting rich?
i'd say taxing wage earners but not taxing the wealthy is a far bigger impediment. that's why people always says the first million is the hardest. it's way harder getting from $0 to $1m then $1m to $2m because even passively wealth compounds, but having money opens up all other sorts of doors, like access to more leverage.
wealth people already have a huge advantage in competing with you in the same market. and then the government taxes the wage earner to death and doesn't tax the wealthy at all? how does that make sense?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603400) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:12 AM Author: Talented library
There is no tax on the rich that does not eventually become primarily a tax on the middle class. The middle class is the engine of wealth building for the government. It's the main place they get it from. It never goes down, only up. They're never going to give up taking from this slice of pie for any reason.
The rich will always have a way to manipulate assets. It's kind of like gun control. You can't just "ban guns" or "ban assault rifles." "We're going to tax the rich" > ends up taxing the middle class more. Also dramatically increases government spending which leads to more entitlements which leads to more government dependency. Then God forbid we can never get rid of these programs. - But can't we go back to the well and get more money from the rich? Meanwhile they have all moved or hidden assets in shell corporations etc.
For example when Francois Hollande tried to raise taxes to 75% for millionaires in France they all began the process of moving to Belgium. These are outs that middle class people don't have, will never have. Only the rich can move to Belgium.
The cycle just repeats over and over. You're never going to capture their assets. All burdens fall back on cucks. The best thing to do is wind down government spending and give middle class people their money back, and let rich people donate to organizations if they want to improve society. Just let them donate. But stop government spending now. It's the only way to get regular people their money back is to stop taking it from them and using it for dumb bullshit. You're never going to "seize" the wealth of the rich it won't happen and even if you did it would lead to many disasters.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603410) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:21 AM Author: violet sanctuary gay wizard
this is the same argument as hatp which is the complete cuck shit i was talking about. the argument essentially boils down to "we shouldn't even try to target the wealth because they'll just use it against us :("
if that's how you feel i'd say you should just open your asshold to the elites and stop even participating in political discourse. wealth and power has ebbed and flowed from the people to the elite throughout history. you guys are like gilded age people digging coal in company towns saying "gosh, but if we tax the boss the price of goods at the company store might be even higher."
fine, argue about gendered bathrooms and wokeness while all of your resources and sapped away and spent on propping up a regime that hates you and wants you dead. better not to fight back against masta, it could backfire! wouldn't it suck if wage cucks who currently bare the entire tax burden changed tax policy and made them bare, idk, 110% of the tax burden!!? ackshualllly the problem is spending, if we can just convince the elites to stop spending our money on enriching themselves then maybe we can get them to stop stealing from us somewhat!!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603436) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:33 AM Author: violet sanctuary gay wizard
because it's two separate issues. we've gone around on this before. yes, government spending should be massively reduced. additionally, the wealthy should pay taxes at the same rate as wagecucks.
this type of argument of insisting on a perfect but unachievable solution is common. massively reducing spending is significantly more challenging than equalizing tax rates. and, even regardless of *WHAT* level of spending there is, the rate should be bared equally. it doesn't matter if the government spends $10b or $10t, it should be sourced in a fair way. the only argument people make against this is "but if we target wealthy it might target us instead", which is so silly considering we already bare the entire rate.
and this has nothing to do with hating rich people or socialism. i'm not a socialist. hell, you're ideal flat tax would be better than this -- at least the rich would pay the flat tax! it's really not that difficult and the concept was invented hundreds of years before marx was born. but again, "hating the rich" (by insisting they pay taxes at the same rate i do?) and "socialism" are just scary words designed to avoid discussing this in good faith.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603443) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:42 AM Author: Talented library
I disagree. I have studied history exhaustively and found that almost all terrible ideologies that killed millions of people began with philosophies that were preoccupied with fairness and equality. I believe you are a Socialist because your ideology is fundamentally rooted in righting perceived wrongs. Virtually every early Marxist would agree with your vision on fairness and equality. That was the whole point. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. All of these proto Marxists go back to Kant and Hegel and German idealism.
Philosophers have long been preoccupied with creating a fair society. In the early Soviet Union they made a hypothetical machine to display that would "engineer" the perfect society. They really drank their own kool-aid. It was all based on class resentment, which you clearly have.
The Anglo-American tradition takes the opposite tack. In doing the most good for the most people it's broadly understood in Western history that the ability to obtain wealth for the individual is paramount to maximizing individual freedom. Any time you inhibit that you are swimming upstream from the very thing that creates human happiness. You should never tax anything that must not be taxed without sufficient reason. Being eternally hung up on fairness leads to violent revolution. It leads to oppression and immiseration every time. It's a genuinely dark and terrifying road to be constantly worried about who has what and why.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603455) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 12:59 AM Author: violet sanctuary gay wizard
pretty sure concepts of justice, fairness, equality under the law, etc. has existed since the beginning of recorded history my dude.
i'm not talking about engineering a communist utopia, i'm talking about taxing people equally. you're equating this to communism and overarching concepts of fairness and class resentment because you can't make a cogent argument about why someone making $200k a year should be taxed 33% and someone making billions a year taxed 0% aside from "it would be hard to accomplish." which is a practical consideration when we're discussing the concept itself.
i'm talking about literally the same system we have except people are taxed equally. this isn't about "hating the rich" or "resentment." again, you haven't made any argument why a simple proposition like "tax people at equal rates" and resort only to broad non-sequiturs. this is literally like watching me pay a 0% sales tax and you get to the register and pay 33% and wonder "why is that?" it has nothing to do with me per se.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603481) |
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Date: April 23rd, 2024 1:02 AM Author: violet sanctuary gay wizard
"perhaps if the government stopped giving mcdonalds so much of the money it takes from me it will be able to take less from me?"
how can something so simple as equalizing the tax code by unfathomable and unachievable but you think reforming the whole system from the bottom up is a better first step?
hint: you're already living in a dystopian hellworld where the elite enrich themselves off your dime. if your first step is "well perhaps the elites in charge should stop enriching themselves so much", good luck. that's what the entire system is. and you won't even bother to tax them. good luck cutting through the gordian knot of unfathomable grift.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5519686&forum_id=2#47603483) |
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