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Why are libs so obsessed with "high speed rail"?
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:26 AM Author: vivacious wild filthpig macaca (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641843) |
Date: May 7th, 2024 11:28 AM Author: Odious Hall Philosopher-king They hate the fact that American's have gigantic cars made by comfy white dudes with pensions in Ohio and Michigan and Tennessee running on profits from Texas and Oklahoma oil barons that give you the freedom to go where you want when you want without being beholden to a time table scheduled by some bureaucrat who tells you the precise minute you are permitted to travel from Bakersfield to Merced. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641852) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:25 PM Author: Razzmatazz Public Bath (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642544) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:39 AM Author: comical shitlib Variety of spiritual ailments (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641871) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:39 AM Author: Opaque stimulating kitty traffic sucks ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641874) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:39 AM Author: Unholy aromatic stag film circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641878) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:50 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone parlour (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641907) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:39 PM Author: Sienna Indian Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642170) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: Big school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642395) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:46 PM Author: trip psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643799) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:40 AM Author: Scarlet crackhouse prole dont understand that the us is a continent and not a country like france or germany or england or japan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641880) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:41 AM Author: Opaque stimulating kitty lame excuse, our populated metro areas are similar in size to euro cities. no one is asking for high speed rail from Buffalo to Denver. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641884) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:41 AM Author: Scarlet crackhouse prole where are you imagining high speed rail? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641887) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:42 AM Author: Opaque stimulating kitty Los Angeles and TriState basically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641891) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:43 AM Author: Scarlet crackhouse prole those are the places it would be least useful or practical (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641895) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:45 AM Author: Opaque stimulating kitty ok man. I guess sitting in traffic for hours on 405 or 95 is "practical". (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641897) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:47 AM Author: Scarlet crackhouse prole youre a fucking idiot if you do either at this point why the fuck are you sitting on either of those (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641901) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:49 AM Author: Opaque stimulating kitty I'm not. But millions of people are forced to afaik. I guess I shouldn't care because it isn't my problem atm? That's how a society works right? Fine, I don't care. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641905) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:51 AM Author: Scarlet crackhouse prole its like 1% morons making long distance drives on those roads and 99% morons driving 30 miles to work or driving 15 miles for chicken nuggets. high speed rail wouldnt solve anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641908) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:16 PM Author: Unholy aromatic stag film circlehead What’s ridiculous is that in Ca the first part of the high speed rail project they’re working on is in the Central Valley…from merced to Bakersfield. Lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641935) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:19 PM Author: black therapy Cleveland Detroit Chicago Toronto
Atlanta Charlotte Nashville
Pittsburgh Philly NYC |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:23 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease a pittsburgh to philly high speed rail would be devastating to the breezewood, pa truckstop industry and the powerful doobs and peterman rigpig servicing lobby would never allow it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641971) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:25 PM Author: black therapy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641977) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:26 PM Author: diverse patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641983) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:27 PM Author: curious striped hyena Wow (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641995) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:40 PM Author: Sienna Indian Lodge Absolutely Devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642173) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:23 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business (hair blown straight backwards) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642537) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:31 PM Author: dashing field idea he suggested These are the dumbest fuckig routes I’ve ever heard.
How would you Cleveland Detroit Chicago route work? Seems like two different lines? And who gives a flying fuck about Cleveland, which had like 400k people in the metropolitan area. You’d serve more people extending NJ transit and adding some higher speed trains.
Same for Atlanta Charlotte Nashville.
And lol about Pittsburgh. Who gives a fuck they have an airport and the city is the size of Saint Paul MN (without Minneapolis). Philly already has Acela connecting it to NYC. |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 7:42 AM Author: black therapy (angry NJ Jew) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644434) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: diverse patrolman yeah true, we'd need to be a small country like china to build a serious high speed rail network (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641953) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:22 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641960) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:22 PM Author: Opaque stimulating kitty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641964) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:41 PM Author: Big school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642399) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:46 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease why are cons so against it? we used to build things in this country. we should be ashamed that the gooks are building all this shit and meanwhile it takes us years and hundreds of billions to do the same thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641899) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:52 AM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station what "cons" are against it? it's more the bureaucracy that makes it impossible (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641909) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:20 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease look at this thread and the first poasts.
lamenting we can't create this shit because of bureaucracy is different. many are just against the concept itself.
to be clear, i don't think that most cons are against it as a concept, i was just playing off the title of the thread. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:53 PM Author: Glittery sapphire senate because any concept of rail in america will include insane bureaucracy, huge subsidies, and crazy social engineering to force people out of their cars and onto a train full of tweaking meth heads. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642206) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:03 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease "lamenting we can't create this shit because of bureaucracy is different. many are just against the concept itself."
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:22 PM Author: Glittery sapphire senate maybe you should actually read the posts above that you were whining about then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642532) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:25 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease there are plenty people itt arguing against it as a concept, not because of the bloated cost. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642545) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:20 PM Author: vivacious wild filthpig macaca Why should we be "ashamed" that other people are building some dumb, useless thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642118) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:24 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business Kind of like the rail "projects" they had/have going on in the Minneapolis metro? Here they're either 400% over budget or only used as traveling urine-stinking drug dens |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:50 AM Author: embarrassed to the bone parlour Oh no not an infrastructure improvement that would actually help americans!
This country spent $3 TRILLION dollars destroying iraq and afghanistan alone.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:55 AM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station where would it be built? it isn't happening in CA (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641913) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 11:57 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease cons love laughing at california wasting billions on a train and then gleefully voting to send the same amount wasted to israel and ukraine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641915) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: diverse patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641955) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: Unholy aromatic stag film circlehead (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641973) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:26 PM Author: comical shitlib Yup if you just vote sclerotic old kikes will stop lighting your money on fire (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641986) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:27 PM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station most XO "cons" don't want to do that either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641991) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:53 PM Author: Glittery sapphire senate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642209) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:40 PM Author: swashbuckling bonkers principal's office masturbator (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642176) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:41 PM Author: Big school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642401) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:26 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business no real "cons" actually want to send a single red cent to "the Ukraine" and possibly not to Israel either. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642550) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:34 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease no true reptile (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642570) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:03 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business I've been against funding that retarded corrupt dwarf in Ukraine since before the war started. That's been a shitlib cause from the beginning with all the 'tards having a Ukraine flag in their bios
I don't care much about Israel but slightly more than I care about Ukraine due to the holy sites |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 7:39 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease im with you but we're outliers. you can't just dismiss them as "not real cons" just because you disagree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644431) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:23 PM Author: diverse patrolman because its an excellent and efficient form of transportation, and its laughable that we cant do any serious infrastructure projects in this country anymore but we still have endless billions for foreign wars that have no real impact on americans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47641968) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:24 PM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station "we" aren't allowed to some of these ideas don't make a lot of sense though, these cities are already a couple of hours by car, will people pay close to a plane ticket to get there without a car etc |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:27 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease biden's gay ass infrastructure plan is 90% grift and what little it does do is 99% renovating/replacing existing infrastructure and doing shit like bike trails, pedestrian bridges, and airport terminals.
we've completely abandoned the idea that it's possible to build and create things there. when they key bridge fell both sides were like "well, that'll be replaced in 5 or so years, maybe." the idea of building a new golden gate style bridge or something is unthinkable. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:29 PM Author: curious striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642004) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: diverse patrolman very cr. it's embarrassing, we never build anything world class anymore and we're like 15 years behind asia. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642008) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: curious striped hyena France built a high speed rail 40 years ago for a fraction of the cost it takes California to build one mile of railway. It's all grift and unions and Dem politicians. These states are entirely run by unions. The grift is built into the laws at this point. You can't just pay a guy to dig a hole and lay down some rails. It's not that simple. There are so many considerations. So many hands in the cookie jar. This is why you can't get anything done in blue states. The unions are too strong. They basically mandate that they're going to do every little work for a ton of pay. The only way to overturn this is for a conservative government to come in and start undoing all the institutional rot. It would take generations at this point. It will never happen. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642019) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:56 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease getting beat by the gooks is one thing. they are bugs and build bridges the way that a bees build a hive.
but getting beat by the french is really depressing. you know that culture we like to lampoon for being lazy and bureaucratic? well even *they* are better at building shit than we are.
we took the anglo protestant work ethic that build this country and focused it on fart apps and email jobs. tragic. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:07 PM Author: curious striped hyena France has very similar politics to California. If you think shitlibs are bad you can't imagine how deeply ingrained it is in the French. France has basically widely believed since their founding documents in the 1790s that everyone has a right to food shelter and prosperity. The role of government in French culture is to ensure that everyone has a high floor in their standard of living. Contrast with the fundamental American promise that the government ought not impede your personal success, France was founded on the idea that the government owed everyone a good life. They have the highest taxes in the world, the most debt. Nobody thinks this is all that bad. And the entire country is run by unions and they have a constitutional right to go on strike and shut down major thoroughfares. The entire country shuts down almost biannually for the latest government employees seeking more gibs.
All of which is to say how the fuck did they build a first world high speed rail in the early 80s with a socialist President? Simply put for all of their bloat and bureaucracy, they seemingly find a way to elect chief executives that get things fucking done. And they made sensible limitations on the unions and utilized budgeting. Like any sensible person would when building a giant public works project. They eliminated grift and stuck to their fucking guns and took care of business. Something completely unthinkable in the United States. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:12 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease the difference is that french libs sincerely believe what they say and so occasionally good things happen despite all the bloat that comes from a centralized welfare state.
american libs only pretend to want this shit as a path to selfish grift. this is why san francisco elects nancy pelosi forever. she keeps the money faucet on for political libs and will knee in african garb and do other performative shitlib stuff, but then will refuse to even put something like medicare for all to a floor vote. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:14 PM Author: curious striped hyena Correct. That being said in the last ten years France is becoming a lot more like American shitlibs. Repose en paix.
You do "get more" for your tax money over there. You get free school and healthcare. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:19 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease the west as a whole has realized it's all over and the elites are behaving the same way the roman elites did when the writing was on the wall. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642114) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:21 PM Author: curious striped hyena Sweden is somehow getting richer and they seem to have the moat thing figured out. Despite high taxes they have seen a major increase of 'kronor billionaires' (USD centimillionaires). They are building a nation sized moat to insulate themselves from world disaster and they are moving politically to the right. There is hoap for whites after all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642122) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:24 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease yeah, by the west i meant the portions of the west that gleefully imported browns and exported industry to the detriment of their own people. the nordic countries tended to have more sense and build a moat, and so they're doing the best of all despite being the most socialist countries in the west. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642131) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:26 PM Author: curious striped hyena There's a movement now towards economic liberalization. The founder of Spotify is very pro business and removing red tape. They recently had a huge spat about rent control which led to the socialists getting ousted and the cons came to power and were like fuck your rent control. I will attempt to move there soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642136) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:43 PM Author: Sienna Indian Lodge sweden realized relatively high taxes/services provided and free markets aren't mutually exclusive
a lot of american politics boils down to fearmongering that the two are inseparable. if you hike taxes or want the government to subsidize healthcare you're a socialist and if you give business a longer leash you're an elite protecting reptile etc.
we used to have a two-party system but each with their own (very distinct) factions, now we just have a straight up/down two-party system where you're either on side A or side B. there's little capacity for nuance or dealmaking in american politics today |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:55 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease nixon's policies would be criticized as socialism today. teddy roosevelt would be called a communist.
the partisanship has resulted in all nuance and collaboration being destroyed. people will say it out loud. libs will refuse to say anything positive about trump even if they supported some of his policies previously, and they will refuse to criticize their own politicians because that "just hurts us and helps them." MAGA gop is more willing to criticize their own party, but they are even more partisan when it comes to compromising with the left on anything.
we used to hold elections and then move forward believing that if your guy lost that meant the other guy has a mandate from the people and should move forward. the minority party would work with the other side to eek out concessions and moderate it a bit. now it's complete scorched earth. even routine appointments take ages to happen. and major legislation is only possible in emergency situations. the entire system has stalled, and any effort to return to a system that works is meant with autistic arm flapping and screeching about how the other side is evil and everything they try to do should be resisted. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:59 PM Author: curious striped hyena Even Swedes think their own taxes are too high. The last time I was there I was told that you pay no tax up to 4000 USD/mo and after that it's a 50% flat tax thereafter. They're becoming more pro business which was never the case in the past. Lots of Swedish businesses are popping up, including a headphone and speaker company Zounds which recently bought Marshall Amplifiers from the UK. One thing that's fun about Swedes is they are universally into art and mid century Anglo-American culture. If you go to rural Sweden everyone has a muscle car and a Harley. No one is having more fun than Swedish rednecks. I was randomly stopped in some small town at some house (I don't remember how I got there but I was being driven around by some guy called "Ingemar") and we ran into this Swedish redneck guy and he was like, "I'm just here building an extension to my ex-wife's house just to be a nice guy and so my kids have something nice." Prole Goy Mr. Fixit! Fuckin 180 place man. In many ways they are keeping the high trust society of protestant whites alive. Their churches are 180 FUCK THE POPE.
As far as the US we have 4 factions, MAGA, neocon, neolib, and progressives. "MAGA" is the first new choice in a long time that actually won an election and was very competitive in another for the Presidency despite being 5% of Congress and 10% of the GOP. Compare to the progressives in Congress they are about 20% of the Dems but they have never polled well in a presidential election and seem to have no power. Part of this is because they don't vote reliably, but also because they never hold on to their values and cuck to neolibs with ease. This is the most stomped on group despite being more numerous than MAGA cons they have 0 political power. They do it to themselves! |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:02 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease (AOC crying, collapsing on the house floor, losing hoap, as she switches her israel vote from "no" to "abstain." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642233) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:05 PM Author: curious striped hyena 1800000
You would like Sweden. High trust society. It's way more vaultie than wasteland and if they have one flaw it's that they've been in the Vault for too long. But now joining NATO. They're actually building an army, cutting taxes, opening up for business. They never locked down for Covid. The only way they could become more based is if they started allowing more whites to move there. Now that would be fucking amazing.
One time I was in Stockholm harbor and this Swedish royal navy submarine was disembarking. It was cool as fuck. The commander was so fucking serious. He was drinking a beer next to me. Honestly have more pride in this country I'm not even from than my own. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:08 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease i've thought about it and if i did move out of the us that's where i'd go.
but despite the collapse of our country it's still where my community is. plus being an american lolyer doesn't open up as many DOORS overseas. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:13 PM Author: curious striped hyena You can still work for JONES DAY. You could work for Wesley R Johnson. He is a gangster in the biz. He closed some huge deal between a French telecom company and a takeover of a Spanish one. This dude is like the ultimate Euro merger gangster. There's no reason you couldn't do this.
Your new boss: https://www.jonesday.com/-/media/images/attorneys/j/wrjohnsonjr.jpg?rev=203caefae11c4b258a3396b7e2050687&sc_lang=en&hash=5C332CAF1A3191C38DAD6D3C961FBD41 |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:15 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease i also might just pursue my passion of having sex with men for money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642309) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:15 PM Author: curious striped hyena Berlin. No doubt. Berlin. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642315) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: diverse patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642104) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:32 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business French can be based and alpha sometimes. US shitlibs not so much. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642565) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:57 PM Author: curious striped hyena France is obviously alpha sometimes despite being incredibly gay and retarded. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642977) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 8:57 AM Author: demanding market fat ankles Lmao. Any "conservative" government will just privatize the graft. It'll cost the same to the taxpayer, but instead of flowing into union coffers, it'll go to private equity instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644521) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: curious striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642009) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: vivacious wild filthpig macaca No, it sucks. It's been losing market share to flying and driving in China, Europe, etc. High speed rail sucks and nobody actually wants to use it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642126) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:27 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business "We" don't want to send our money for foreign wars either, but we don't have a choice (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642554) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:09 PM Author: Hateful boyish library (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642809) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:27 PM Author: excitant at-the-ready locus Libs often stumble upon a real problem, and because they are built to CHANGE SHIT, have sufficient open-mindedness to consider a novel fix.
Car cities suck, traffic sucks, parking lots suck. Everyone knows this, but libs are first to point it out, because theyre built to ID some problems and get really vocal right away.
Despite this being something libs are good at, theyre not particularly good at finding the right solution, or considering complicating factors, second order consequences, etc.
So they move from "traffic sucks" immediately to "build trains".
Cons often just knee-jerk oppose lib solutions because thats usually the right answer, and because it becomes partisan and polemical, often just ignore or deny the underlying problem which is real.
But in this case, libs have not considered: BLACK PEOPLE.
People dont want to take public transpo because they dont want to be around BLACKS. No one mentions this, so everyone just keeps sperging out about trains or no trains.
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:30 PM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station this has come up re California high speed rail obviously 99% would be priced out of it, as well as being "deprived" by where the trains would stop so some politicians say they won't vote for it |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:32 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease just like we've abandoned the idea of creating new infrastructure we've abandoned the idea of policing crime.
just because blacks exist doesn't mean there is no solution to crime and filth making out public spaces and utilities unusable. we can, and did, police this shit before too. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 12:48 PM Author: curious striped hyena William Henry Parker III (June 21, 1905 – July 16, 1966) was an American law enforcement officer who was Chief of the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) from 1950 to 1966. To date, he is the longest-serving LAPD police chief. Parker has been called "Los Angeles' greatest and most controversial chief of police".[1] The former headquarters of the LAPD, the Parker Center, was named after him. During his tenure, the LAPD was known for police brutality and racism;[2] Parker himself was known for his "unambiguous racism".[3][4] (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642025) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:02 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease libs love tying things they don't like to racism because it allows them to completely dismiss the topic without tackling the merits. i don't doubt the guy was a racist and the lapd was racist at the time. most institutions were. but there is nothing inherently racist about enforcing the law. in fact, it's another one of those "libs are the real racist" things. by saying law enforcement is inherently racist is tacitly admitting that blacks a inherently more lawless. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642042) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:10 PM Author: curious striped hyena Parker believed that the police were the only thing separating civilization from the dindu thunderdome. Where's the lie?
Defund the police is literally, literally just about blacks saying they don't like getting arrested for breaking the law. That's all BLM is about. They want the right to commit crimes. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:13 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease blacks never wanted to defund the police. it was white shitlibs. blacks know the police are necessary because they tend to live in high crime areas and utilize them.
you can police crime without doing rodney king shit. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: curious striped hyena Why does every inner city black vote Dem then if they're so concerned about the need for police? It sounds like electing a Giuliani types would make their lives better? They seem pretty concerned with the Freddy Gray bullshit too though. They are all still conditioned victims. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642101) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:17 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease why do you vote gop knowing they're going to send your money to israel? we're in a binary choice system.
im not saying blacks are for law and order. but they aren't so dumb that they want to eliminate police entirely like the defund shitlibs. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:19 PM Author: curious striped hyena I only vote for the MAGA republicans who are anti Isreal hth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642112) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease your favorite in the primary was ron deshabbos and you will dutifully vote for trump who is only slightly less pro-israel and who will and did gleefully give them whatever they want. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642124) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:24 PM Author: curious striped hyena I was only into RDS for one month in early 2023 then I was a Vivekmo. Like the whole Unitarians thing you make one comment on this website and it follows you around forever.
I stand with the likes of Thomas Massie. Everyone who has paid attention knows I'm a paleocon. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:26 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease vivek was also a huge israel stan until he put his thumb to the wind and flip-flopped because his whole deal is being a MAGA shitlib who pretends to support things as a path to grift.
i don't doubt the sincerity of your beliefs, i'm just saying you, like everyone else, will hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil when it comes down to a binary choice. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:27 PM Author: curious striped hyena Yeah obviously 🙄 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642141) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:29 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease ok? so then "I only vote for the MAGA republicans who are anti Isreal hth" isn't accurate. that's all i'm saying. you will vote for people that are pro-israel when the alternative is a shitlib or not voting at all. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642143) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:31 PM Author: curious striped hyena Right but I don't eagerly support pro Isrealmos and I never would. I'm completely against it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642150) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:37 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease you said vote. i'm not trying to get in a pedantic debate, i know you're sincerely anti-israel and would prefer candidates that are the same. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642164) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:52 PM Author: curious striped hyena (Albert Einstein) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642204) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:22 PM Author: Contagious mexican *relocates embassy* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642128) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:06 PM Author: charcoal old irish cottage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642056) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:34 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business Libs think with their emotions and can't consider how human beings actually operate or what actually motivates people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642569) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:12 PM Author: Contagious mexican DC to NY should have something STAT. should take like 40 min to do this route. Everything else is a joke IMO. no one in california is going to give up their precious car isolation existence to save an hour on traffic |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:26 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo they have these things called airplanes that already do exactly that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642344) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:30 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease trains are better in every way for trips that distance. every aspect of air travel outside of private is hellish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642367) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:35 PM Author: curious striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642380) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:51 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo I don't see an appreciable difference between dealing with DCA and Union Station. Regardless, we shouldn't eminent domain one of the most densely populated stretches of the country and spend what would end up being trillions to solve a problem that already has a slightly less comfortable solution in existence. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642431) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:04 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease counterpoint: we should. i am right and you are wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642471) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:05 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo you're a weird dumb fag who associates with trannies (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642475) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:10 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease you're getting ysffm over a disagreement on transit. i wager i'm less weird irl. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642487) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:52 AM Author: multi-colored abode pisswyrm There's literally nothing wrong with airplanes other than the ridiculous amount of security involved because Muslims exist. Prior to the TSA, flying was a breeze (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644828) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:40 PM Author: Contagious mexican what kind of pyscho america first maga pumo is going to act like air travel takes 40 minutes. Go from the center of one city to the center of another and tell me how long it takes "by air" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642393) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:41 PM Author: curious striped hyena Perfect example of massive political corruption is all the members of Congress who invest in the airline industry. And car companies too. There's a huge top down conspiracy to get everyone to drive cars. So many industries depend on this. It's mentally ill. But don't you just want to fly everywhere, goy?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642400) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:46 PM Author: Contagious mexican imo if youre going to grift all over something then let it be that one rail line and idk, bridges, not israel. but Im not a GOPe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642413) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:49 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease just take all the grift-laden shit we do like billions to the military industrial complex and other countries and put it towards actually making things better for people here. it'll still be grift-laden but i'd rather overpay for a modern rail system then over-pay for bombs to drop on people half a world away. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642424) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:52 PM Author: curious striped hyena This is MAGA in a nutshell. The only addendum is they want to secure funding for things up front and not put it all on a credit card. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642437) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:10 PM Author: Contagious mexican yeah its fucking BONKERS how retards like live free or die think its great for our public sector to build bombs, but dont realize the same argument can be made for building bridges or roads domestically, which still use domestic resources and employ people.
they get sucked into this pointless war mentality. its some fallacy from 1980s that WAR is great for the economy |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:28 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease cr. it's stimulating in the short term but obviously spending money to blow shit up doesn't produce anything. if it did we could just build as many bombs as possible and drop them into the ocean.
although they might argue that we have net gains because what we're really doing is enforcing our status as the global hegemon. although im not persuaded by that when the gains are reaped by the ruling class exclusively. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:55 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo the round trip via train won't take only 40 minutes either. it's not like everyone lives/travels to only a 2 block radius around union station or grand central. fuck spending trillions and ripping up thousands of homes just so GC can shlep their faggot bankers/lobbyists/lawyers back and forth slightly faster. Most of those people probably live closer to DCA anyways.
this shit should have been done or at least cleared out like 60 years ago, not now. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:57 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease if it should have been done before why shouldn't it be done now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642452) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:04 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo i duno why would it have been a better idea to have built shit when it was cheap and easy instead of retardedly expensive and next to impossible? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642472) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:08 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease i'm not saying it wouldn't have been better to build it then, stupid. but you're against it as a concept now even though you conceded it would be a good thing.
if it's valuable thing and it's going to get more difficult to build as time goes on, then we should build it asap. that's not an argument not to do it at all. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:17 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo cost/benefit value isn't there now. the fact that it will keep getting worse doesn't change that it doesn't make sense currently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642510) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:20 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease cost/benefit is significantly higher than 99% of the shit the government spends money on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642526) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 7:06 AM Author: Concupiscible mildly autistic halford foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644396) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:42 PM Author: chocolate space cumskin Can you imagine the peak life experience of going 200+ mph on a train in California when an earthquake hits? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642404) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:47 PM Author: Contagious mexican i dream daily about the death of our california posters and I'm sad that luis has to go. Glad you escaped (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642415) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:08 PM Author: irradiated step-uncle's house place of business It'll be like that one scene where California literally collapses into the Pacific as some faggot is flying his two-seater toward China. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643282) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:16 PM Author: chocolate space cumskin Libs believe anything that they're told, and the libs powers that be tell libs that high speed rail is good. Also, the lib powers that be make a shit ton of money on the graft associated with these big projects, enough that sometimes money just goes out and the project isn't even completed (like CA), yet nobody cares.
TLDR; libs feel good about repeating the party line, powerful libs steal public money. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:30 PM Author: embarrassed to the bone parlour (guy who believed and repeated every lie in cheering on the invasion of iraq) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642146) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 1:20 PM Author: Insecure lay streamline population movement to reeducation camps (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642117) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:01 PM Author: Beady-eyed Sanctuary Pocket Flask Easy way to embezzle millions of dollars (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642231) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:08 PM Author: green stirring house Bend over and I will show you why they are obsessed with "High Speed RAIL" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642262) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:39 PM Author: curious striped hyena In Switzerland and Japan trains are considered a luxury. Only in America do we think it's "luxurious" to have to physically drive yourself. What happens with really nice trains is communities spring up around them and then you can walk to get your groceries and shit and you don't need to drive around for 2 hours on a saturday morning to buy everything for the week. Euromos shop at bodegas with high quality food a couple times a week. It's easy when it's right next to where you live you don't even think about it. I grew up on trains and it was 180. I hate driving personally. That shit blows. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642392) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:41 PM Author: Contagious mexican what? are you missing words (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642398) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:41 PM Author: curious striped hyena No. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642402) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:07 PM Author: Contagious mexican how is it luxurious to take a train to the grocer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642652) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:46 PM Author: curious striped hyena You take a train to work. You take a train back. You're not tired from driving and you've been relaxing, having a snack, and reading the paper. You get off the train and walk to your house. On your way home you pass by your local bodega stocked with fresh food and pick up what you need on the way home. It's a smaller store and you don't wait in line for an hour because instead of one gigantic H-E-B with 4000 Mexicans you're in a tiny store with only the people from that little neighborhood. Your grocer knows you personally and stocks what you like and gets to know you. May even carry some rarities just for you because he likes you.
Congratulations, you now live a normal life in Western Europe & Japan. 0 need for a car. Trains go into the city center where the nightlife is when you want to party. Trains also go to sporting events and concerts. Your parents live a few blocks down so you can see them any time. This is how virtually all 1st worlders live outside US & Canada.
U: stuck in a minivan on the 405 for 2 hours every day "this is so freeing! I can go, like, anywhere!" |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:49 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease when i took a train to work it was so 180. it's a nice moment to relax. you can even work if you have to. compare that to being in traffic in a car. ghastly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642948) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:04 PM Author: curious striped hyena I had a buddy who lived in Santa Clarita and works for the Burbank Water and Power. Lives a block from the train. Job a block from the train stop. Dude never drives and avoids the 5 every day. He's happy as FUCK. Has a couple kids. The biggest heist he pulled though was he bought a 600k house in coastal CA. It was some sort of distressed asset/government selloff type of thing. He got some kind of 1 in 1000 home run steal. Dude is actually living like his father and grandfather in coastal CA with a job where he can literally jack off on the clock. A pure do nothing sinecure. Never has to drive. You can retire in CA at like 45 with 90% of your paycheck for life. He maed it. Bet he wishes he could be stuck for HOURS every day in his FREEDOM MACHINE though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643020) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:50 PM Author: Contagious mexican Yeah fine don't mean to be pedantic but that's not luxury (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642954) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:01 PM Author: curious striped hyena What's luxury to you? The only way up from there is private driver. Limo + paid driver. Trains are the #2 option after being a billionaire and it's accessible to *checks notes* literally everyone who lives near a good train. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642995) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:04 PM Author: Contagious mexican Gbte and take the toefl bro.reapply (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643019) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:05 PM Author: curious striped hyena *slams croissant* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643024) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:48 PM Author: Big school cafeteria (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642419) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:48 PM Author: Big school cafeteria High speed rail is awesome. It is efficient and takes so much stress off of having to drive, find parking, etc. It will take right into the area you want to go to, so then all you have to do is get off and walk to your destination.
The problem with the US is violence. Americans are violent assholes and get worse every year. So sharing a small space with them is something that does not appealing to a lot of people.
High speed rail (both inter and intra city) works very well in many European and Asian countries because people are way more civilized there. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:52 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease americans aren't violent in general. there is a small sect of violent and anti-social americans, and they should be locked up if they can't behave. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642436) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:53 PM Author: curious striped hyena ;) ;) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642439) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 4:30 AM Author: azure selfie (guy who hates the 13th Amendment) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644273) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:04 PM Author: Alcoholic Aggressive Locale US cities are so spread out to get on high speed rail, you’re driving to the pickup location anyways and then you have to deal with sitting around insane ppl who want to rob you for 2+ hours (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643684) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:54 PM Author: Mauve Office Coldplay Fan It's stupid because almost all US cities require cars to get around. The focus should be on regional train and bus transit. Imagine if you could get from LAX to Disneyland in 20 minutes. Or San Jose to San Francisco in in 25 minutes. US cities are getting denser and the smart thing is to help people get around these metro ares faster. Only after regional transit improves does high speed rail make sense
Don't know what to do about sprawling shitholes like Dallas or Atlanta. They're beyond hope |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:56 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease i'm NOT riding a bus darnell!
most cities have decent subways and light-rail already, they just need to clear out the undesirables. cities that don't should develop them, not rely on gay ass buses. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:59 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo no one wants to ride "light rail" you dumb fag. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642456) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:00 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease how the FUCK is light rail materially different from a bus except that it's larger capacity, roomier, faster, and more reliable? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642461) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:02 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo no one wants to ride buses either (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642465) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:06 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease car<bus<train
no one wants to drive around a congested city in a car. train is the best option followed by bus. you're really maf about any public transit for some reason. i can understand people's concerns over intercity rail, but i've never seen someone so fuming about local transit being improved. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:11 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo taxis/uber are obviously better than any public transit. local transit makes sense in some situations but obviously everyone would rather be driven from point A to point B (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642488) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:14 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease yeah everyone loves summoning a mystery meat appslave to pick them up in their stinky camry playing terrible music and sitting in congested traffic rather than getting there in a fraction of the time at a fraction of the cost. with the additional benefit of when you do want to drive or take an uber the streets are so unusable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642501) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:18 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo lol and you're calling me maf itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642514) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:19 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease it's more like flippantly pointing out how stupid you are (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642520) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:39 PM Author: curious striped hyena He's just Chinese. In Chinese culture public transit is considered extremely low class. It all makes sense. All the richmos in China have personal drivers and would never set foot on public transit. Meanwhile in Switzerland billionaires take the train because it's nice to have nice things. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642579) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:00 PM Author: Mauve Office Coldplay Fan I agree with clearing out undesirables. But most cities have mediocre rail systems and subways are crazy expensive. Bridging the gap with bus rapid transit (dedicated lanes for buses) is the only choice while light rail is improved (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642460) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:01 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease fair. i thought you were advocating that buses are the ultimate solution. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642464) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:40 PM Author: curious striped hyena The main problem with busses besides the undesirables is the frequent stops. No one wants to wait for the bus to stop every few blocks. It's a huge pain. Trains are superior because they cover larger distances and only drop you off at important places. Let people walk or whatever the rest of the way to their destination. Busses are an atrocity. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642585) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 2:58 PM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station yeah high speed rail works so well in say Japan because for stops mostly have good local rail and subway networks themselves being dropped off at LA Union Station or whatever isn't the same at all |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:09 PM Author: 180 sickened windowlicker cr. treating the NE corridor as a special case is actually consistent with this approach - it's like the only place in the country that has a series of cities all in a line that each have their own decent transit systems, so high speed rail might actually make sense there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642486) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:48 PM Author: Flirting rehab round eye They want the US to be like Europe and think it will magically convert American cities into euro cities. It’s misguided but that’s what they think (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642599) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 3:54 PM Author: self-absorbed smoky theater It’s stupid that people see this as an East Coast only issue. There are like a dozen major cities in the Midwest that are exactly an annoying distance to drive apart ie like 125-300 miles. The biggest cities in the South are the same, as is Nashville to Louisville/St.Louis/Cincinnati. A HSR system connecting those places would massively benefit all of them with the increased flow of visitors and broader availability to workers and customers if it were easy to travel between them. Same for the I-35 corridor and the Austin-Dallas-Houston triangle, where millions of drivers also slow down trucks/cargo that’s headed to most of the rest of the country. Even a route as simple as LA to Vegas would be a massive tourism boon to both places and it’s not hard to find a route that has basically zero development between those two cities.
It’s a fact of the size and space of the country and the natural attributes of these places, all of which took shape pre-50s highway infrastructure and it’s never changing. This has always felt like another thing that requires boomers to die off/lose power to fix. Boomers invented car culture and it was fully tied up in their own self-definition and identity starting in the 50s. Boomer libs attacked real estate development and restructured the government and the legal system to make development harder because it was a much easier target than cars, and it also left a space for the elite boomers and their lawyers to enrich themselves using their de facto development monopoly. Add this to the already very long list of issues that any populist movement of the late 2020s should use to brand themselves as the “fuck boomers” party. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:38 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease i think most people would support HSR too. it's just that for the east coast it makes so much sense that it's just insane it hasn't been built. that's not to say it isn't worthwhile in other places too. but for the east coast corridor it's a complete no brainer. dc->baltimore->philly->nyc->boston. 5 huge, congested city centers located very close to each other with a bunch of people that need to commute between them frequently. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642731) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:44 PM Author: Flirting rehab round eye The counterpoint is HSR largely sucks compared to driving. Even in euro people with cars much prefer to drive. Just most people don’t have cars. The ones who do rarely take trains. Americans all have access to cars where they can sit in nice air conditioned cars and not deal with annoying people so I don’t see them giving that up to go sit in a train. And you can’t even drink on trains in America so there’s not even that benefit like in euro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642738) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:50 PM Author: curious striped hyena If you get rid of homeless people and vagrants who cause disturbances then trains "aren't annoying". Have you ever been on a Japanese bullet train?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN2oWELKsrA
This shit is orderly as fuck. Everyone is polite. Americans suck balls that's the problem. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:54 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease there are a few train lines in the us that happen to not stop in homeless/dindu areas and they are 180 experiences. people who think that "couldn't happen here" are retarded because it *does* happen here. just enforce the law ffs.
"we shouldn't build trains because they turn out to be nasty and horrible because of a handful of nasty and horrible people."
uh, just get rid of em' lol. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:48 PM Author: curious striped hyena You don't have to sell me on the Woodchipper. Soros DAs will be the first to go.
Also an underreported fact, libs LOVE that there are only a few small Northeast suburbs where they have amazing schools low crime and everything is awesome. It drives their home values up! NIMBY libs aren't just ruining America for no reason. They're making life unlivable so YOU AND I have to pay them for the convenience of 1st world life. This is the GORGEOUS world Boomers have left for us. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:57 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease it's amazing that when libs get to the UMC they become DINOs and support all sort of conservative shit. they love clutching their pearls about the plight of the working class from behind the walls of gated communities. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642978) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:08 PM Author: curious striped hyena In my hometown (think Westchester county)some developer tried to build mixed use housing and the town fought it in court for like 2 decades. This town is 90/10 D voting in every election for the last century or so. RENTERS? NOT IN MY TOWN! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643031) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:10 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease i'm shocked that libs actions don't align with their principles here considering they are so principled in every other regard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643050) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:39 PM Author: curious striped hyena (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643179) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:52 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease but the whole reason driving is preferrable is because there's way fewer cars. that's why it's a win/win for everyone. carmos will have a much better time too.
and people in the us frequently give up their cars when they move to a big city. in my major metro everyone that doesn't need a car for a commute doesn't have one. it's way more affordable to rent a car from a poor turo redditor if you want to drive than owning a car outright when you don't need to use it every day. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:53 PM Author: curious striped hyena mfcr but then we wouldn't be indebted in perpetuity to (((GEICO))) and that wouldn't be good for Berkshire now would it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642758) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:55 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease NOOO!! you can't build trains! won't you think of the oil faggots, insurance kikes, and failing automakers!?! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642770) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:50 PM Author: curious striped hyena I was told that Warren Buffet was a really great guy and had our best interest in mind. After all he says we should "tax the rich." Haha, yeah, haha.
Btw back to Sweden the trains are amazing. Went across the entire length of the country in a train. Very speedy and efficient. This is going to shock you but not a SINGLE methed out dindu wastelander on the Swedish train. Wow. Wow! |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:00 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease it's not mutually exclusive. business isn't altruistic and it's not supposed to be. the law is supposed to make it so it's not exploitative. businesses can't do it themselves, they'll just be outcompeted.
there's no incompatibility with playing the game well and arguing that the rules should be changed. *that's* MAGA in a nutshell. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:07 PM Author: dashing field idea he suggested You can drink on Acela and Metro North and LIRR. Only NJ Transit outlaws it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643457) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 9:40 PM Author: curious striped hyena the last time I was on the NJ transit a homeless black man got up from across the empty car and walked over to where I was sitting and stood a foot in front of me and glared at me for like 4 stops without saying anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643647) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:50 PM Author: Mauve Office Coldplay Fan The problem with every Midwestern and Southern city (except for Chicago) is that once you get to the city center by rail, you need to have a car. This is why the focus is on the northeast. Once you get to NYC, dc, or Philly, you can do a lot without a car. You get to Dallas and you're helpless
HSR should focus on the Acela corridor. Everywhere else, the money and effort should go into improved regional transit |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:35 PM Author: Hateful boyish library What a lot of the people pushing this really want is to make car ownership rarer and more expensive so that those cities start to collapse inward as people start to lose access to transportation to their increasingly unaffordable suburban homes. There will be pushes to increase public transportation as well, with the notion that once that is built you don't need cars anyway.
All of which will serve to increase control over the population. The people are angry and rioting? That's fine, we'll shut down rail. Suddenly everyone is stuck where they are. Next pandemic they'll be able to say that only essential personnel can travel outside their little neighborhood. They did that in London and some other places, btw. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:50 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease lol at this conspiracybabble. if they thought public works would mean more control they'd do it. the reason they don't is because they hate us and don't want to give us anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642956) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:52 PM Author: curious striped hyena Also drives up real estate prices in coastal areas so Boomers can RETIRE WITH ZERO after selling their 1.8 million dollar empty 4 bedroom home to Sashwat with a degree in CS while their own children live in squalor and spending their inheritance before they die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642958) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:01 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease watch libs freak out if you propose some sort of transit system to idyllic rich areas. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643000) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:10 PM Author: curious striped hyena *5000 word lengthy screed about why there's no subway stop at Georgetown*
The last one that was poasted on XO concluded the reason was either "the proximity to the river makes construction unsafe" and "time immemorial." That was one of the main reasons shitlibs who have investigated the issue actually say. "We can't put a stop here because it's always been this way."
To your point about cleaning up crime if you elected a right wing DA who pressed for charges and actually applied the law on every dindu the city would clean itself up and you wouldn't have muggings and stabbings on the DC subway. Really makes you think (((who))) is behind this? |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:12 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease it's the same as their "preserving the character of the neighborhood" nimby shit they do all the fucking time.
it's boomer lib mentality of pulling the ladder up. they want their properties values continuing to go up, and they don't want to be confronted with how their policies have impacted other people. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:41 PM Author: curious striped hyena 100%
It's almost as if they're self interested and have rigged the system in their favor due to creating a massive voting block starting with Clinton that continues to this day. Obvious Boomer similarities between Trump and Biden.
Young people don't vote and haven't formed any kind of block. The boomers have been in power longer than any generation in US history. It's unheard of that their reign would go on for so long. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:53 PM Author: curious striped hyena This is going to blow your mind for all of you paranoid black pillers out there, you will still be able to own a car. Just be that guy who doesn't bother to use public transit out of paranoia.
How are car and gas and insurance prices doing btw? |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:11 PM Author: Hateful boyish library They're fine. I can easily afford both. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643701) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:07 PM Author: self-absorbed smoky theater It’s way more efficient and easy to get around by car in a city where you’re traveling with ridesharing and, yes, Turo. Conditioning easier/more comfortable transport between major cities on every city becoming more appealing to people who want to avoid cars entirely makes no sense. Should HSR happen exclusively while regional transit remains exactly the same? lol no. I am pretty skeptical that buses are a solution to anything other than certain commuting scenarios, and light rail still gets cockblocked by boomers pretty much everywhere. Build some HSR and get some more money and labor on the side of building and then attack the light rail/subway issues again in a few years once a sufficient number of boomers have died off and you could find some new momentum. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643458) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:52 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo Lol yea a family of four in Louisville is totally going to spend $1000+ on parking/tickets/rental cars/ubers to take a train to St. Louis instead just driving themselves (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643404) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:27 PM Author: self-absorbed smoky theater The round trip in gas is like $200, but you’re positing the one category of travelers that makes the least sense for HSR. It’s amazing how many people in SoCal fly to Vegas, even though it’s so close and the inefficiency of air travel means it’s slower travel time door to door. Driving for four hours sucks. Let alone any of business travel where a traveler can pass the cost on to his employer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643491) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 9:07 PM Author: histrionic tripping corner tattoo I would actually say socal/vegas is the best example for rail. Prob phoenix and shit too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643581) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 9:14 PM Author: self-absorbed smoky theater Atlanta to Charlotte is similar. So is Houston to Dallas. Like 5,000 flights a year on each of these routes because driving 4+ hours (or a fuckton more if you hit rush hour on either end) sucks ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643593) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:57 PM Author: Ultramarine arousing area Gunnerfag spazzing out ITT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642774) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:59 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease trains and trans are my passion (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642785) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:54 PM Author: curious striped hyena No, just trains! I said just trains! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642969) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 4:58 PM Author: Hateful boyish library This is one of those annoying things that is partially legit (a good high speed rail system would be great for certain parts of the country) but in reality is mostly push for "you will own nothing and be happy" dystopian bs. The dream for the people that love this is everyone living in some shitty apartment in some satellite city and taking high speed rail to their shitty job or Holocaust museum or whatever they envision we do for fun (air travel reserved for the elites). These plebs don't need to own a car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642777) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: Insecure lay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642859) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 5:55 PM Author: curious striped hyena Gun to the head where is it nicer to live Tokyo or Houston?
Where do you think multimillionaire PewDiePie (Swede) and his stunning wife (Italian) live? Were they like oh shit let's go to America or did they buy a house in rural Japan with only train access to cities? |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:01 PM Author: startled razzle wrinkle station you don't seem to live in reality (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47642996) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 6:11 PM Author: curious striped hyena Pot, kettle... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643052) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:02 PM Author: Hateful boyish library What kind of question is this? The defining feature of Japan isn't high speed rail, but rather that it has an incredibly homogenous conservative culture obsessively focused on safety and cleanliness. Pewdiepie was pretty clearly displeased at all the migrants and shitlib bullshit that is prevalent in Europe. If he was primarily interested in high-speed rail then he wouldn't have left Europe.
In terms of my personal preferences, the answer is that I wouldn't want to live in either of those places. But in general, I'd rather live in Texas than Japan. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:05 PM Author: curious striped hyena I live in Texas. It sucks compared to Japan lmao
There are violent armed beaners everywhere on meth and kids dying of fentanyl laced weed. It's insane out here brah. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:12 PM Author: Hateful boyish library Are you Asian? I can't imagine living in Japan as a white guy (or even a non-Japanese Asian guy). They are one of the most insular groups on the planet.
Also, I like guns, nice houses, cars, etc. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:48 PM Author: curious striped hyena I'm Swiss. I like Ordnung. I have the German gene for people who are dead quite in public and pick up after themselves. Nothing disturbs me more than disorder. People living freely drives me nuts. Everyone should sit and listen quietly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643803) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:56 PM Author: Hateful boyish library Then your love of Japan makes perfect sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643825) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 2:12 PM Author: curious striped hyena I'm not the only one brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47645370) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:12 PM Author: Talented Cerise Reading Party Toaster I have a question itt. Does this shit need expensive maintenance or is it like $100,000,000,000k in one shot and only like a few million/yr in maintenance? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643291) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 9:09 PM Author: curious striped hyena Union boss Yolanda Jackson Chavez has entered the chat.
Google any Dem state rep from a major metro and the entire resume is "community organizing" and "public works" ie they decide who gets the handouts and it's always their people. All D legislatures are captured and nothing can get done unless someone hands out the bacon. That's why the costs are always insane. Some future pensioner who works for the state who wants 1000k an hour to hold a stop sign in a hi viz jacket. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:22 PM Author: Khaki Community Account high speed rail that carried personal vehicles like a ferry might have merit between certain cities. hsr for civilians is dumb. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643321) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:24 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease it's actually impressive you manage to have the stupidest take on every thing you weigh in on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643325) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:28 PM Author: Khaki Community Account lol, look at how much bandwidth your idiotic posts have contributed to this thread and how little substance. you're really not smart |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:36 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease smart enough to realize that transporting cars containing perhaps one occupant would defeat the purpose of both 1) transporting people efficiently and 2) reducing car congestion in cities.
also that spending billions on a system like this is particularly stupid considering self-driving technology will likely be finished by the time the rail network is.
it costs about $100 to take a bullet train from tokyo to kyoto. how much do you think it would cost to transport a whole fucking car? you are so god damned stupid it's unreal. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:06 PM Author: Khaki Community Account Auto Train is an 855-mile (1,376 km) scheduled daily train service for passengers and their automobiles operated by Amtrak between Lorton, Virginia (near Washington, D.C.), and Sanford, Florida (near Orlando). Auto Train is the only motorail service in the United States.[4]
Passengers ride in coach seats or private sleeping car rooms while their vehicles are carried in enclosed automobile-carrying freight cars called autoracks. The train can carry up to 340 vehicles. The train also includes lounge cars and dining cars. Auto Train allows its passengers to avoid driving Interstate 95 in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida while bringing their own vehicles with them. It has the highest revenue of any train in Amtrak's Long Distance Service Line. please go fuck yourself now also, your second paragraph is correct. so why waste so much time in this thread. idiot. |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:12 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease care to take a guess on why they operate this at 50mph? this thread is about high-speed rail. considering it's their highest revenue service any guess why they aren't trying to operate it at acela speeds? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643467) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:46 PM Author: diverse patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643387) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:43 PM Author: Talented Cerise Reading Party Toaster Where did you even get this idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643377) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:08 PM Author: Khaki Community Account i am against trains, but the only way i would consider one under most circumstances is if i had a car once i got to the destination and fucking around with a rental or uber is no different than taking the airplane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643461) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:21 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease (guy paying $10,000 for a HSR autotrain ticket from dc to MFH for the convenience of driving out of grand central station) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643480) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 9:14 PM Author: Sienna Indian Lodge take hyperloop and add a dash of clubbed seal
that's basically the idea |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 3:51 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644262) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 7:57 PM Author: soul-stirring orchid chapel Rail can go straight into downtown unlike airplanes which require a pain-in-ass Uber hire to get to your hotel. It also hurts nobody. Lots of posts itt exemplifying the "xo poaster yells at cloud that he won't eat bugs" boomer brain rot typical of this board in the current year. I think my dad has registered a handful of accounts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643416) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:04 PM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease people here used to laugh at how libs would knee-jerk oppose trump shit even if they had supported it in the past. seeing that a lot here too, like this thread. being against the palestine protests because libs are doing it is another example. cons aren't immune from basing their opinions on blind partisanship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643450) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 10:15 PM Author: diverse patrolman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643713) |
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Date: May 7th, 2024 8:53 PM Author: flushed lodge glad fucktarded cumskins repetitively made the trillionth iteration of this thread in 2024 whilst accusing NYUUG of being "repetitive" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47643558) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 9:40 AM Author: Red cracking bawdyhouse dragon "we waste tons of money on israel and ukraine therefore we should also waste tons of money on high speed rail" is a very popular position itt; a real window into how the US came to be in the situation we are currently in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644563) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 9:52 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease it's more like "the bloat and grift that comes from developing public works is not a good excuse to not do it when we currently waste a ton of money on shit that has no benefit to the american people."
people use government inefficiency and grift to excuse them from doing anything for people. yeah, it would be better if we stopped one and did the other. but in the absence of that id still prefer the government to do things that benefited citizens. |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:00 AM Author: Red cracking bawdyhouse dragon seems to me that the burden of proof should be on the people who *want* to blow 15 trillion dollars running a "high speed" line across the Rocky mountains, by showing that enough people would happily pay $800 for a ticket to justify the expense and extreme difficulty of such a project in light of the numerous pre-existing options to make the same trip.
the real answer to OP, btw, is that high speed rail reminds east coast umc fags like us of that time we went to Europe in college. How cultured! How fun! drinking chianti on the line to Florence! It has nothing to do with helping the actual American "people," it's a vanity project by and for a group of people with an outsized twitter presence and a disproportionate amount of political power. this is the accurate answer and should be the final word itt. mods feel free to lock it. |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:23 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease sure. everything the government does should have a cba. and we should compare proposed expenditures and go with the ones with the best cba. so it's hard to say something that has *some* benefit is not worthwhile when we do so much shit that has no benefit.
probably a big factor in why libs are *so* into it, so that does answer the op. but i think op was just implying that only libs want it and wasn't asking a sincere question. |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 2:14 PM Author: soul-stirring orchid chapel The extreme difficulty of the project justifies the expense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47645379) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 9:54 AM Author: Magenta Range I like the idea of HSR and trains are much more pleasant then planes. But I feel like we missed the boat on this. We will finally get around to installing it at a time when 95% of people work from home in safety pods and ubermenschen deliver all life's essentials. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644583) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 9:57 AM Author: lilac godawful heaven mad cow disease that's actually a good argument for them though. because maybe giving people access to cities easier will incentive people to leave their screens. id definitely visit other cities more if it was more convenient to get there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47644586) |
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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:28 AM Author: Red cracking bawdyhouse dragon we could also make plane travel more pleasant, but we seem bound & determined to do the opposite
the same process, btw, would slowly, creepingly, but inevitably happen to HSR as well. (this is my optimistic theory) |
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Date: May 14th, 2024 1:59 PM Author: race pessimism liberals just want piss stinking public toilets & moving carriages for homeless moving around very fast (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526012&forum_id=2#47660927) |