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Actors who are inexplicably in lots of movies without being talented?

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magenta motley scourge upon the earth sex offender
  05/08/24
You mean like most of Jewish actors?
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jews
bespoke ruddy temple
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Nick Cage
Purple 180 Piazza Ratface
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Nic Cage is extremely talented at taking what would otherwis...
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There are certain roles of his that are hard to imagine anot...
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i can't find it right now but roger ebert supposedly said th...
Cheese-eating Chest-beating Jewess
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He's been legitimately good in a number of movies but has be...
mind-boggling cruise ship associate
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He explains here: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/couldnt-...
Aggressive Mewling Police Squad Double Fault
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Oh yeah. The fucking castles.
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Cage’s eccentric spending habits extended even beyond ...
Aggressive Mewling Police Squad Double Fault
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You know you've made it when you outbid Leonardo Dicaprio fo...
mind-boggling cruise ship associate
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he seemed to be on an upswing last i checked on him. i think...
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To pay his back taxes
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wow this is the first one I thought of
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He made Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans an amazing ...
Racy nofapping hell
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seth rogan, for me.
Cheese-eating Chest-beating Jewess
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you're correct about the not talented part but there is a pr...
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(((they))) value money over all else. sure, that's how he go...
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Sean Connery
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are you a lib or something? you might as well say gary coope...
Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker
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He begged the director of The Name of the Rose to let him pl...
Racy nofapping hell
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Why isn’t every poast John Krasinski? He was totally ...
copper vigorous area brethren
  05/08/24
at least he's tall
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I’ll grant that. He also makes good eye contact with t...
copper vigorous area brethren
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correct
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ben affleck
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This is who came to mind for me. He's good at playing a doo...
mind-boggling cruise ship associate
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it's a cliche answer to this question but sometimes things a...
Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker
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Tom Hardy
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Shut the fuck up, he is the best part of every movie he&rsqu...
copper vigorous area brethren
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"he is the best part of every movie he’s in"...
Boyish step-uncle's house
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i didn't even know he was name until iooked it up one time. ...
Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker
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There are actors who often appear in many films despite not ...
Maniacal Principal's Office Sandwich
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Rach needs an anti-GPT sh*tmod
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Kevin Hart
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Sam Worthington
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Sam Rockwell, Gary Oldman
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Lucy Liu
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(it is Y2k)
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Gary Oldman.
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it’s breathtaking how incredibly wrong this post is
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Both Harold & Kumar actors Pretty much every kid in A...
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Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro
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Miles Teller
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everyone who's had sex with harvey weinstein
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mind-bogglingly terrible thread
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Michael Rapaport
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(Malik Williams)
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Ben Affleck is the fucking GOAT here. the man has zero actin...
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Keanu, but he gets a pass for bringing us Neo and forever ch...
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tom cruise
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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:39 AM
Author: magenta motley scourge upon the earth sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644647)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 4:26 PM
Author: crimson concupiscible regret state

You mean like most of Jewish actors?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645837)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:40 AM
Author: bespoke ruddy temple

jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644648)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:40 AM
Author: Purple 180 Piazza Ratface

Nick Cage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644649)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:42 AM
Author: Aggressive Mewling Police Squad Double Fault

Nic Cage is extremely talented at taking what would otherwise be a terrible movie and making it interesting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644654)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:49 AM
Author: Spruce electric gaping

There are certain roles of his that are hard to imagine another actor competently doing. Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans is a classic example.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644671)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:40 AM
Author: drab insecure jap abode



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644777)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: Cheese-eating Chest-beating Jewess

i can't find it right now but roger ebert supposedly said that nic cage is terrific in good movies but is indispensable in bad movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644697)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:47 AM
Author: mind-boggling cruise ship associate

He's been legitimately good in a number of movies but has been in a lot of terrible movies as well. The question with him is, why does he take all of these awful jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644662)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:47 AM
Author: Aggressive Mewling Police Squad Double Fault

He explains here:

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/couldnt-time-nicolas-cage-remembers-103000349.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644664)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: mind-boggling cruise ship associate

Oh yeah. The fucking castles.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644724)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:44 AM
Author: Aggressive Mewling Police Squad Double Fault

Cage’s eccentric spending habits extended even beyond real estate. With an eye on his eternal resting place, the actor purchased a nine-foot-tall pyramid tomb, according to CNBC.

He also apparently spent $150,000 on a pet octopus and bought the first Superman comic, also for $150,000.

The actor even bought a 70-million-year-old dinosaur skull for $276,000 — reportedly outbidding fellow actor Leonardo DiCaprio for it — but it turned out to be stolen and he had to return the skull to the Mongolian government.

Cage's CBS interview also revealed that he has a new pet, a monitor lizard that will grow to about six feet (according to its owner). Cage is fond of his "black dragon," and says the experience is "like having a real dinosaur in your house."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644789)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:01 PM
Author: mind-boggling cruise ship associate

You know you've made it when you outbid Leonardo Dicaprio for for a black market dinosaur skull.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644865)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:54 AM
Author: Supple resort national security agency

he seemed to be on an upswing last i checked on him. i think the shitty movie thing was more of a phase when his career was down and he needed the money. the rensfield movie was decent mostly because he was in it and the unbearable weight of massive talent was pretty good.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644681)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:55 AM
Author: Slippery Pozpig Cuckold

To pay his back taxes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644682)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644687)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:58 AM
Author: Boyish step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644694)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:10 PM
Author: Fragrant Pink Field Codepig

wow this is the first one I thought of

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645108)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 6:26 PM
Author: Racy nofapping hell

He made Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans an amazing 180 homage to the original. The director claims he never watched the original, but anyone who's watched the original can that's pure bullshit. Cage takes all the things that made you cringe during the original and inverts them, so that they become funny. It's like therapy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646223)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:42 AM
Author: Cheese-eating Chest-beating Jewess

seth rogan, for me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644655)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: provocative trailer park

you're correct about the not talented part but there is a pretty obvious (((explanation))) why he has been in so many movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644688)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:12 AM
Author: Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker

(((they))) value money over all else. sure, that's how he got his foot in the door. but he wasn't in tons of blockbusters as a leading man for no reason. sure, he's untalented. but the reason hesl was in so many films isn't inexplicable -- retards loved his schtick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644736)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:32 AM
Author: contagious fear-inspiring depressive



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644760)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:46 AM
Author: Emerald Misanthropic Factory Reset Button

Sean Connery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644661)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker

are you a lib or something? you might as well say gary cooper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644701)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:50 PM
Author: Racy nofapping hell

He begged the director of The Name of the Rose to let him play William of Baskerville. At the time his reputation was dogshit and hollywood thought he was toxic, but he had read the book and was obsessed with getting the role.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645282)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:56 AM
Author: copper vigorous area brethren

Why isn’t every poast John Krasinski? He was totally fine as goofy average guy in the office and career should have ended there. Instead we are expected to believe that he’s an action hero, scientist, whatever. Even in a comedy role a bunch of random TV actors who went nowhere outperformed him, and he has no gravitas or versatility and always seems like himself standing around while other people act.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644683)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:52 AM
Author: claret blathering dysfunction striped hyena

at least he's tall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644826)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 8:35 PM
Author: copper vigorous area brethren

I’ll grant that. He also makes good eye contact with the camera. But this is the skill set to be a catalog model, not a leading man in a wide array of high budget movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646481)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:06 PM
Author: opaque stead

correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644888)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:53 PM
Author: at-the-ready theater stage deer antler



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645297)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:59 PM
Author: flesh vibrant office tattoo



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645315)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: cocky talented community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645623)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 5:38 PM
Author: Irradiated Transparent Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646039)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker

ben affleck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644690)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:09 AM
Author: mind-boggling cruise ship associate

This is who came to mind for me. He's good at playing a doofus asshole but that's about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644728)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:19 AM
Author: Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker

it's a cliche answer to this question but sometimes things are cliche for a reason. he's a terrible actor. he has no draw -- no one has gone to see a movie because it has Ben affleck in it. he's just continually failed upward to the point that him being in a film signals it's major picture. he remains a big name actor only because he managed to establish himself as a big name actor.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644744)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 10:59 AM
Author: Boyish step-uncle's house

Tom Hardy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644698)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:02 AM
Author: copper vigorous area brethren

Shut the fuck up, he is the best part of every movie he’s in. Some are trash but if this is your opinion you know nothing about acting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644707)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: Boyish step-uncle's house

"he is the best part of every movie he’s in"

Star Trek: Nemesis

Inception

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644710)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:06 AM
Author: Floppy Effete Ticket Booth Windowlicker

i didn't even know he was name until iooked it up one time. even if he's not your hope of tea personally you can't say he's "bad." he's got one of the biggest ranges of any major actor. most actors don't even act, they're just themselves. seth rogan has never "acted."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644713)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:22 AM
Author: Maniacal Principal's Office Sandwich

There are actors who often appear in many films despite not being universally regarded as the most critically acclaimed performers. This can happen for various intriguing reasons:

Charisma and Screen Presence: Even without traditional acting chops, certain actors have unique charisma or a strong screen presence that makes them appealing to viewers and casting directors alike. Their distinct personalities can be enough to draw audiences.

Typecasting and Familiarity: Some actors become recognizable for particular types of roles or genres, making them a reliable choice when directors need a specific kind of character. This typecasting creates a consistent niche where they are often in demand.

Marketing and Fan Base: Sometimes, actors with a solid fan base bring marketability to a film. Even if their performances aren't critically lauded, their popularity can attract audiences, making them valuable to producers.

Industry Connections: Relationships in the industry can play a significant role. A strong network or collaboration history with particular directors or studios may lead to recurring casting opportunities.

Work Ethic and Professionalism: Some actors gain a reputation for their reliability, punctuality, and adaptability on set, making them go-to choices despite mixed critical reception.

These factors can result in an actor's frequent casting, even if they're not widely praised for their dramatic range or technical abilities.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644747)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: Impressive boiling water

Rach needs an anti-GPT sh*tmod

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646034)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:24 AM
Author: mentally impaired sapphire site

Kevin Hart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644748)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:26 AM
Author: Slimy Lascivious Library

Sam Worthington

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644750)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:33 AM
Author: lemon main people

Sam Rockwell, Gary Oldman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644762)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 11:45 AM
Author: tan marvelous yarmulke

Lucy Liu

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644795)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 5:34 PM
Author: Maniacal Principal's Office Sandwich

(it is Y2k)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646029)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:05 PM
Author: titillating tanning salon

Gary Oldman.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644887)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:07 PM
Author: opaque stead

it’s breathtaking how incredibly wrong this post is

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47644897)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:53 PM
Author: Racy nofapping hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645047)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 2:18 PM
Author: Cheese-eating Chest-beating Jewess



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645387)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 2:20 PM
Author: Appetizing Lake Ladyboy Shitlib



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645393)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 3:19 PM
Author: Boyish step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645616)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:37 PM
Author: Exciting pale school cafeteria

Both Harold & Kumar actors

Pretty much every kid in American Pie

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645006)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 12:54 PM
Author: Racy nofapping hell

Al Pacino, Robert DeNiro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645050)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:03 PM
Author: yellow swashbuckling filthpig

Miles Teller

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645081)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:49 PM
Author: Racy nofapping hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645277)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:10 PM
Author: Fragrant Pink Field Codepig

everyone who's had sex with harvey weinstein

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645110)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:37 PM
Author: Slimy Lascivious Library

mind-bogglingly terrible thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645240)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:47 PM
Author: wonderful garnet wrinkle

Michael Rapaport

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645273)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 1:49 PM
Author: Racy nofapping hell



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645278)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 2:21 PM
Author: Appetizing Lake Ladyboy Shitlib

(Malik Williams)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645396)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 3:22 PM
Author: cocky talented community account

Ben Affleck is the fucking GOAT here. the man has zero acting ability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47645622)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 5:37 PM
Author: Irradiated Transparent Shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646037)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 5:49 PM
Author: Aggressive Mewling Police Squad Double Fault



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646070)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 5:36 PM
Author: Hideous Yapping Sanctuary Antidepressant Drug

Keanu, but he gets a pass for bringing us Neo and forever changing our lives

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5526390&forum_id=2#47646032)



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Date: May 8th, 2024 6:24 PM
Author: Appetizing Lake Ladyboy Shitlib

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