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Trump getting rid of automatic engine shutoff in cars.
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Date: May 12th, 2025 9:57 AM Author: opaque library national security agency Lee Zeldin
@epaleezeldin Start/stop technology: where your car dies at every red light so companies get a climate participation trophy. EPA approved it, and everyone hates it, so we’re fixing it.
https://x.com/epaleezeldin/status/1921894994769575972
So you voted for global warming, rising sea levels and mass climate refugees? Are you sure about this, Trumpkins? |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Orange Range jesus christ liberals are fucking stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929783) |
Date: May 12th, 2025 10:00 AM Author: spruce haunted graveyard pisswyrm mount rushmore him now
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM Author: opaque library national security agency . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923582) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:33 AM Author: sticky boyish plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923808) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: Well-lubricated space (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924185) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:45 PM Author: wine wild pit mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924264) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:01 AM Author: Metal magenta point skinny woman Do people dislike this? Why? I've never had a car with it but I've had rentals and it doesnt bother me at all. The engine instantly restarts. Does the function degrade over time? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923583) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM Author: Vermilion Charismatic Tanning Salon I don't care much if it's a rental but obviously starting your car engine hundreds of times a day for no reason is going to fuck it up over time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923588) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:03 AM Author: silver university (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923590) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:05 AM Author: opaque library national security agency Its one of the worst examples of bureaucratic brain rot. The energy costs of prematurely replacing starters, etc. is going to be way more than the energy saved. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923594) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:31 PM Author: black brunch variable valve timing lets engines run in atkinson cycle at startup so they require less toque to crank. Hybrids run in atkinson cycle full time, so what you may be feeling is the shift in valve timing after the crankshaft gets cranked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928460) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:27 PM Author: Drab Frum Step-uncle's House did you install a modern start/stop on a 70s car? or do you turn your 70s vehicle on and off at each stoplight? those are the only way your "obviously" retarded claim would be true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924192) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:27 AM Author: spruce haunted graveyard pisswyrm it isn't instant. you're trying to make a quick left turn, hit the gas, and ooops the car has to restart itself.
also it is just there to game CAFE stats, directly raising the frontend cost of the car and prematurely wearing out the battery, starter and alternator to do it.
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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:34 AM Author: Bonkers Comical Base Incel Fucks up the starter, and is pointless. I had a car that the AC would turn off when this happened too. You can disable it but still. |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: black brunch Is that why starters keep going bad in Toyota Hybrids? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927473) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM Author: Vermilion Charismatic Tanning Salon Does anyone actually use this "feature"? My car doesn't have it but every rental car does and I always have to disable it every time I start the car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923585) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM Author: cowardly digit ratio It's annoying as fuck b/c most cars don't allow you to set it once, you have to turn off the "feature" every time you start the car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923600) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:14 AM Author: Vermilion Charismatic Tanning Salon (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923609) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Glittery Wrinkle Private Investor its like the calibri font of car features (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923618) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:19 AM Author: Misunderstood internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923621) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: wine wild pit mental disorder (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924271) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:12 PM Author: Insecure bisexual theater stage athletic conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927457) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:31 AM Author: Milky generalized bond locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929781) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:18 AM Author: Misunderstood internal respiration It's on by default and some cars make it a pain in the ass to disable (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923619) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:02 AM Author: Misunderstood internal respiration This is one of my top 3 annoyances in daily life. A true 180 if he does this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923586) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:48 AM Author: Aquamarine costumed twinkling uncleanness principal's office If this actually one of the worst things in your life congrats on your chill life (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923674) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:08 AM Author: Glittery Wrinkle Private Investor it was always a ridiculous concept (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923599) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:43 AM Author: Canary mad-dog skullcap mother Why burn twelve cents of has when you could replace your starter 3x as often! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923663) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:46 AM Author: Vibrant obsidian hell alpha just remove the second little twink battery your car will automatically recognize this and deactivate the system (not legal advice) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923669) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 10:49 AM Author: swashbuckling misanthropic half-breed church Replacing it with a mod that makes every engine roll coal at a red light. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923680) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Bonkers Comical Base Incel Not a single thing you or I do in our lifetimes will change "climate change" so why fuck up our lives fixing imaginary problems? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48923806) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:04 PM Author: bearded casino Renting a modern Volvo in Arizona only to discover at the first stop light, which is very long, that your engine and AC are shut off. There is no physical button to disable the feature and the menus on the touchscreen are impenetrable with the checkbox to disable this intentionally buried by a Swedish engineer who has never seen a 90 degree day in his life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924102) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:09 PM Author: spruce haunted graveyard pisswyrm i read that Volvo completed removed the option to disable it from newest models, that guy in Sweden caught on that you mistakenly felt you needed air conditioning. you now have to put it into manual at the light, or keep pressing the gas to keep it going. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924116) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:23 PM Author: bearded casino *creeps slowly out into the intersection in order to keep car in motion*
Being fatally T-boned to death would be preferable to dying of heat stroke. At least less sweaty and more dignified a way to go out. |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM Author: Balding disgusting institution China* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924202) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:30 PM Author: Balding disgusting institution Vovlo is chinese bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924200) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:55 PM Author: Bonkers Comical Base Incel Don’t rent a Vulva bro. It’s a sure fire way to herpes and the clap. Don’t ask how I know this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924305) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:13 PM Author: Insecure bisexual theater stage athletic conference How was Sixt otherwise? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927463) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:24 PM Author: bearded casino I’m a ride-or-die Hertzmo. Love the danger that they might negligently have you jailed.
https://www.npr.org/2022/12/06/1140998674/hertz-false-accusation-stealing-cars-settlement |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: exciting doobsian locus Patriots are in control (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924180) |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 1:44 PM Author: flickering stage "For non-electric vehicles, fuel economy gains from this technology are typically in the range of 3–10%, potentially as high as 12%.[3] In the United States, according to the Department of Energy, idling wastes more than 6 billion U.S. gallons (23 billion liters; 5.0 billion imperial gallons) of fuel per year.[4]" "The amount of gasoline used annually in the US varies from year to year, but it is generally in the range of 120 to 140 billion gallons. This translates to an average of about 340 to 390 million gallons per day. " |
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Date: May 12th, 2025 2:25 PM Author: Glittery Wrinkle Private Investor "idling" isnt just at stoplights though. its fucking retards fiddling with their phones while stopped in the right lane for 15 minutes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48924390) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 4:55 AM Author: beady-eyed emerald chapel fraud numbers to justify some stupid net zero nonsense (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48926158) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:10 PM Author: flickering stage do not disagree any idea where to get non fraud numbers? |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: spruce haunted graveyard pisswyrm there really don't seem to be any.
everything seems to be based on crazy studies that claim that people spend 20% of their time idling (https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/does-auto-start-stop-save-fuel/)
if that were true, maybe it would make some sense, but then you'd expect to just have it as a feature people could turn on and off and not some shit that is forced down people's throats.
even taking industry numbers at face value, grok thinks it would take about 3 years to save enough gas to make up for the higher purchase price, and if you include higher ongoing maintenance costs it would be an overall expense
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:24 AM Author: Balding disgusting institution 20% seems fair. how % of your drive is normally at red lights or waiting your turn to turn, etc? do you think you are driving forward 90% of the time? if so you are probably retarded or a trucker |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:43 AM Author: spruce haunted graveyard pisswyrm are you a nyc uber driver?
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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: Balding disgusting institution wouldnt nyc be like 50% idling? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929960) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:27 PM Author: Vermilion Charismatic Tanning Salon Most people are driving on freeways like 80% of the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929953) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:28 PM Author: Balding disgusting institution ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929958) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 3:18 PM Author: black brunch ljl with Toyota hybrids you can't tell when the engine is stopping or starting. You need an icon on the dashboard to tell you when it's EV mode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48927478) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:26 PM Author: godawful citrine heaven *Mossad shutting off ur engine in the middle of the freeway* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928450) |
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Date: May 13th, 2025 9:40 PM Author: Thriller lavender market *Libs continue turning off cars at stops in protest* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48928469) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM Author: opaque library national security agency . (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929771) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:28 AM Author: rose trailer park fanboi I thought I was the only person who hated that. Drives me absolutely crazy. Why oh why do Democrats leave these 98/2 issues for Republicans. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929770) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:32 AM Author: Balding disgusting institution lol @ getting mad that your car isnt contining to pollute while you dont move (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929784) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:56 AM Author: rose trailer park fanboi It’s annoying as fuck when you hit a red light and it feels like the car died. I had a piece of shit car as a youth that died in traffic several times so maybe it’s low-level PTSD. Perhaps this is why oldmos hate it more, we remember when Cars were Bad and died randomly. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929854) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 12:29 PM Author: Balding disgusting institution i am not young but LOL at worrying your car is going to die at a traffic stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929961) |
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Date: May 19th, 2025 9:46 PM Author: flickering stage libs have shit for brains (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48945959) |
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Date: May 14th, 2025 11:29 AM Author: Vermilion Charismatic Tanning Salon https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=MSv1om_7DgU (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5724019&forum_id=2#48929776) |