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China is really showing it’s true face (ass) these days (link)

after their “quiet” rise over the last 25 years ...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/21/25
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spherequeer
  11/21/25
Shinzo would have summoned that diplomat and silently handed...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/21/25
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spherequeer
  11/21/25
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Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/21/25
they aren't even a hegemon in the East nevermind a world heg...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/21/25
there is a yuge risk that they get over confident and start ...
spherequeer
  11/21/25
this is basically inevitable at this point but it’s...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/21/25
Strategically neutral with Russia is the funniest part. They...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/21/25
Siberia is definitely on the menu, which is another reason t...
Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong
  11/21/25
well idk about that. Russia is clear that any territorial es...
metaepistemology is trans
  11/21/25


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Date: November 21st, 2025 4:23 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

after their “quiet” rise over the last 25 years they think they are peaking and can act like a true hegemon, but they are 10 years too early. and that’s actually good for the West to see them for what they are finally

translation from Polish but very interesting and matches up with their other moves (rare earth’s embargo for example)

the pic is damning too - where is Shinzo when you need him!!

“ I have the sense that we are witnessing the ultimate break with the 🇨🇳 "hide your strength" doctrine of Deng Xiaoping. A new China has arrived, one that bows to no one.

A few reflections from a week in Asia, including a series of conversations in Beijing 👇

In short, I think that in 10 years of talking with Chinese people, I've never seen such immense self-confidence, sense of strength, and superiority over others as I do now. Among experts, diplomats, Party officials.

And above all—I haven't seen such clarity about 🇨🇳 intentions. Usually our work involves drilling through layers of Party line about "China's peaceful rise" or "neutrality toward Russia," only then—using arguments, provoking—to extract what the interlocutor really thinks. This time, it comes unprompted—and it's quite striking.

A few theses from the conversations:

On territorial disputes in the region: It's time for you to start living in the new reality, not the old one. Stop listening to the old powers, and listen to the new power instead. And that power is China. We've been talking about the law of the sea (UNCLOS) for 20 years, and it leads nowhere. The truth is, we have the military strength and we'll win—you must recognize all our claims in the South China Sea. When an elephant walks, it can trample ants. It should think about the ants' fate, but don't hold it against him.

On economic goals: The latest Five-Year Plan has one goal: to prepare the Chinese economy for confrontation with the US. It's about creating an autonomous industrial system, resilient to shocks. When we win the technological and industrial competition with the US, "peaceful reunification" with Taiwan will happen on its own, because no one will even try. That's the "preferred option," but the Taiwan issue will be resolved within 10 years anyway. If Europe wants to keep making money here, let it invest in those capabilities and fill the technological gaps we need from that perspective. If not, follow the lead of a few Japanese companies selling cheap fast food in China—that's how you'll earn a bit.

On nuclear weapons development (China aims for strategic weapons parity with the US and Russia by 2035): Yes, we're building capabilities, but it won't affect our "no first use" doctrine. Why? Because we already have conventional dominance in the Western Pacific, so strategic nuclear weapons are needed for one thing only: to knock the idea out of the US's head that they can stop a conventional war by launching a limited nuclear strike on us. So expanding our strategic forces basically stabilizes the situation in that area.

These are a few snapshots from parts of the conversations held under Chatham House rules (you can quote, but without attributing the speaker).

To that, I'll add a general conclusion from a dozen or so conversations in Beijing, aimed at finding a way out of the EU-China conflict: slim chances. Essentially, as a starting condition for talks, the Chinese demand unconditional capitulation from the EU: withdrawal of tariffs, anti-subsidy proceedings, export controls, coordination with the US, change in rhetoric. And if Europe didn't have such weak cards in hand, we'd increasingly feel that it can't back down—because it'll get crushed industrially and geopolitically.

That's it for today; I'll repeat once more: it's not the content that shocks me, but China's openness about its intentions. And above all, the self-confidence I've never seen before.

Is it justified? I don't know if rubbing Trump's nose in it a few times, fueled by a belief in the West's decline, isn't turning into triumphalism. China has its own problems too, which it masks with strength. And I wouldn't count us Europeans out, because flexing muscles is exactly meant to make us surrender.

But how to deal with China's self-confidence and what risks flow from it—that's the main question for our strategic discussions today, in Poland and Europe, but also in the US.

Finally, a picture worth a thousand words, from this week: a Chinese official, hands in pockets, berating a Japanese diplomat. The 🇨🇳🇯🇵 tensions are a longer story, but I couldn't find a better illustration for this post.”

https://x.com/j_jakobowski/status/1991780548910456908

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449032)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 4:43 AM
Author: spherequeer (✅🍑)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449033)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 4:46 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

Shinzo would have summoned that diplomat and silently handed him a sword

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449034)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 4:49 AM
Author: spherequeer (✅🍑)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449038)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:10 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449201)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:18 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

they aren't even a hegemon in the East nevermind a world hegemon. They have India to contend with as their main Eastern longterm rival. Then Japan as a US-aligned technological power. And US alliances with Australia, Taiwan and the Phillipines as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449214)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:19 AM
Author: spherequeer (✅🍑)

there is a yuge risk that they get over confident and start a major war in consequence

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449215)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:27 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

this is basically inevitable at this point

but it’s better than if they had kept quiet for another decade while the West slept

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449226)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:29 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

Strategically neutral with Russia is the funniest part. They are hoping they can have Russia just be drained by being an enemy of Europe and the US while sneaking by unchallenged. Would be funny if that blew up in their faces and they got in a war with Russia

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449229)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:34 AM
Author: Pilgrims Did Nothing Wrong (TDNW)

Siberia is definitely on the menu, which is another reason to keep russia bogged down in that stupid war in Ukraine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449235)



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Date: November 21st, 2025 8:39 AM
Author: metaepistemology is trans

well idk about that. Russia is clear that any territorial escalation would trigger existential nuclear escalation. also any territorial grab from china could force a NATO-Russia-India alliance and destroy their "peaceful rise" narrative

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5800613&forum_id=2#49449245)