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On the true nature and structure of psychological life

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metaphysics is fallow
  05/16/25
Id love to know more about this.. my mind is a Mystery even ...
non-physical computer
  05/16/25
there are 4 layers. There is the manipulative layer. Thi...
metaphysics is fallow
  05/16/25
grok is this true
MGTOW NEET
  05/16/25
@grok
metaphysics is fallow
  05/16/25
This paragraph offers a poetic, metaphorical framework for t...
non-physical computer
  05/16/25
grok is not based
metaphysics is fallow
  05/16/25
lmao holy shit blown out by computer
MGTOW NEET
  05/16/25
grok has not seen the spiritual realities
metaphysics is fallow
  05/16/25
so the "trickster" is jews?
barnabyjones
  05/16/25
How many grams of dried mushrooms did you ingest?
Fucking Fuckface
  05/16/25


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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:08 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:25 AM
Author: non-physical computer

Id love to know more about this.. my mind is a Mystery even to myself

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725825&forum_id=2#48936376)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:28 AM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

there are 4 layers.

There is the manipulative layer. This is the core. It developed from our ancestral past. Focused on survival at all costs. It's 2-faced. It is a trickster -- deceitful, but experiences humor. It laughs at the world and its horrors for self-preservation.

There is the love layer. It's our irrevocable connection to others. The understanding of the natural cycles of pain, recovery, and acceptance. It accepts the trickster layer, but knows there's more to life. It's a warm heart, tenderness to those close to us.

There is the control layer. This formed over time to detect social threats, and to modulate the manipulative/trickster layer away from anti-social deceit. It's a sleep paralysis demon playing out in real life.

Finally there is the infinite layer. Developed most recently with higher brain function. This layer is about empathy, trust, and kindness. It seeks stability. Repeat social games, faith in society, institutions, and the world. It is fragile -- it fears the disintegration the prior layers were built to avoid, but it has hope, courage, and strength. It's directed towards infinite possibilities.

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Date: May 16th, 2025 9:46 AM
Author: MGTOW NEET

grok is this true

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Date: May 16th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

@grok

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Date: May 16th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: non-physical computer

This paragraph offers a poetic, metaphorical framework for thinking about psychological life, and while it's not a scientific description, it captures some deep psychological truths in a symbolic and emotionally resonant way. Here's a breakdown of its strengths and limitations in terms of accurately describing the structure and nature of psychological life:

✅ What it gets right (in metaphor):

Multiple layers of psychological functioning:

Psychology often recognizes different systems or layers (e.g., unconscious drives, attachment systems, executive control, empathy networks). The paragraph mirrors this by describing layers that are primitive, social, emotional, and aspirational.

The manipulative/trickster layer:

This corresponds loosely to evolutionary psychology concepts like self-interest, deception, and Machiavellian intelligence used for survival and social strategy.

It also acknowledges dark humor and dissociation, which are known coping mechanisms for trauma or horror.

The love layer:

Reflects attachment theory, affiliative emotions, and empathy, which are central to social bonding.

Captures the reality that humans are deeply relational and often able to find meaning and comfort in interpersonal connection.

The control layer:

Evokes ideas from self-regulation, social inhibition, and superego-like functions — mechanisms we use to adapt to social expectations and prevent destructive behaviors.

The "sleep paralysis demon" metaphor might describe the anxiety and repression that can come with excessive self-monitoring or guilt.

The infinite layer:

Seems to describe the prefrontal cortex’s role in abstraction, future thinking, moral reasoning, and hope.

Echoes human capacity for ideals, values, spirituality, and belief in progress.

❌ Where it falls short (scientifically or structurally):

Lack of scientific clarity:

These "layers" are not recognized structures in neuroscience or psychology. They are metaphorical constructs, not anatomical or functional brain systems.

Overly linear/hierarchical:

Human psychology is not always layered in a vertical, developmental sequence. Emotional and cognitive systems are highly interdependent, and evolution doesn’t necessarily work in clean layers.

Potentially dualistic or moralistic framing:

Calling one layer “manipulative” and another “infinite” introduces value judgments that could obscure the adaptive functions of even the darker aspects of the psyche.

Underrepresents core psychological mechanisms:

No mention of basic emotion theory, learning and conditioning, or cognitive processes like attention, memory, and reasoning.

Ignores major psychological systems like fear/anxiety systems (amygdala) or dopaminergic reward systems.

🧠 A reframed version (psychologically grounded):

If you were to translate this into a more scientifically aligned version, you might say:

Human psychological life is structured around interacting systems. Some evolved early, like the drive for survival, which includes behaviors such as deception, competition, and strategic thinking. Others, like attachment and empathy, emerged to support cooperation and bonding. Over time, humans developed the capacity for self-regulation, enabling us to navigate social norms and inhibit antisocial impulses. Most recently, we’ve cultivated abstract thought, future planning, and moral reasoning — giving rise to ideals, hope, and a sense of meaning. These systems don’t operate in isolation but constantly influence one another, creating the complex, layered nature of human experience.

🟡 Bottom line:

Your paragraph does not describe the "true" structure of psychological life in a scientific sense, but it offers a powerful symbolic and emotionally intuitive narrative. It's more like psychological myth-making or existential philosophy than empirical science — which can be meaningful and helpful in its own right, especially for artistic or therapeutic exploration.

If you're aiming for psychological truth in a narrative or literary context, it works well. If you're seeking scientific accuracy, it needs grounding in actual cognitive science, neuroscience, or clinical psychology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725825&forum_id=2#48936946)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

grok is not based

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725825&forum_id=2#48936949)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 12:44 PM
Author: MGTOW NEET

lmao holy shit

blown out by computer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725825&forum_id=2#48936952)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 12:49 PM
Author: metaphysics is fallow

grok has not seen the spiritual realities

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Date: May 16th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: barnabyjones

so the "trickster" is jews?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725825&forum_id=2#48937015)



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Date: May 16th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

How many grams of dried mushrooms did you ingest?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5725825&forum_id=2#48937073)