if all of a sudden affordable housing was available the homeless people would still be homeless. unless it was free, in which case they would overdose alone in their free house. the problem isn't lack of affordable housing, it's addiction and mental illness.

however, a big reason people become addicted is because of hopelessness and financial instability. they don't see a path to a decent future so they get hooked on oxycotin and then heroin. if they had a path to a decent life perhaps this would happen less frequently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999003)

ohh poor old me can't make $75k at a F500 let me nuke my whole life and live on the street

the bar here is very low. the bar is a place to sleep at night, and enough money for transportation and food. how much do you think that costs in even our most expensive cities? $3k total per month? you're telling me these people can't make that much in places where the minimum wage is effectively $20?

generations of adults have started off at the bottom and worked their way up. why are you making excuses for these people?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999099)

https://www.hoover.org/research/only-san-francisco-61000-tents-and-350000-public-toilets

they pay $750K to build each 2-bedroom apartment for the homeless. and that's the govt / non-profits with 0 taxes that a private RE developer would have to pay.

https://www.citizensagain.com/blog/san-franciscos-affordable-housing-for-homeless-costs-750000-per-unit/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999113)

https://www.coalitionforthehomeless.org/why-are-so-many-people-homeless/

(didn't read the article just posting for the chart)

do you really think people are turning to the bottle and drugs at much higher rate because "grr they're so much lazier!" no, it's to cope with this gc hellworld they're in. and sure most people can get the bare minimum even with a mcjob. but that's not the only issue. plenty of people would rather get high on the street rather than work a mcjob and live in some ghetto apartment eating cup a noodles.

there has to be a cause for this. alcohol and addicting drugs have always been available. it cannot simply be "they're just lazy!" people are just as lazy as they used to be.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999208)

as you concede if people wanted to stay off the street economic opportunity is really not the reason, i think that can probably be eliminated as an issue here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999243)

It is a loss of social identity and Christ plus an egregiously generous welfare system and satanic shit being shoveled into people's eyes and ears

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999637)

Furthermore homeless people exist on a spectrum. There are 100% mentally ill junkies sleeping and shitting on the street that have been fucked up since birth, have never held a job or paid their own bills, have no useful skills, and are irredeemable. These people should probably be shot for their own good and to spare the rest of society. There are people temporarily on the street who were surprisingly functional in their prior life and might be salvageable with effort. There are also less visible homeless that live in cars, shit motels, crash with friends and family, but have no stable living situation. Plenty of these people have jobs or have been able to hold one in the past but then something fucked them over. Many of these people could do better with support and affordable housing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999255)

Found the thread:

http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4743348&mc=29&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999131)

libs have allowed this to happen by decriminalizing drugs and all manners of misdemeanors. do you understand that? they have literally created this population, and now they want to use it as a wedge to enrich their allies who are "homeless advocates" and vilify "NIMBYs" who are mostly upstanding tax-paying citizens whose only fault is they don't want their nest eggs to be raided by libs eliminating single family zoning in favor of large concrete apartment buildings

EVERYTHING these people do is designed to fuck over the middle class

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44998972)

This wouldn't even cost money, not really. With robotics and automation a lot of the caretaking can be done manually, and given what we already pay in tribute to the bums this will cost about the same, plus our cities won't be blighted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999070)

op is just another drooling moron who can't understand why everyone doesn't just adopt his simple solution for a problem he's never faced

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999241)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999278)

They sleep in cardboard boxes b/c they're intolerable to the point where every single bridge in their lives is a pile of ashes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999037)

also, many of them are homeless by choice because of drugs. they have family that would take them in or shelter space available if they're clean. but the don't wanna get clean.

another fable about the homeless is "access to treatment". there is plenty of access to treatment. they don't want to get better, they're hopelessly addicted. it has to be compulsory.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999069)

On average, a person who goes on welfare is only on it for 6 weeks. However, at any given time, a person receiving welfare has been receiving it for years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999162)

The drug addicted bums that harass everyone in the streets or parks or wherever are hopeless and should generally be gotten rid of somehow.

There are people who are legit down on their luck who actually work shit jobs and live in the horrid shelters and could probably get back into the other side of society with a break or some help.

Unfortunately, the left’s insistence on bending over backwards for the addicted bums is a huge huge waste of resources and political capital. Bloomberg’s NYC policy was to moderately increase the budget for shelters and homeless outreach but instruct the policy to have zero tolerance to bums harassing people or even loitering in popular public places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999060)

This is only SLIGHTLY more common than trans people who are legitimately intersex (virtually none).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999083)

look at their faces, look at the physiognimy, you will see it in their eyes, the shape of their heads, mouths. it is a new, permanent, and growing genetic underclass who will do any drug available to them, take everything they can from others, exploit as much trust from society as possible, steal, cheat, lie to get away with the smallest thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999157)

When you drill into it you find someone who really wants to do drugs and won't take help because the help would interfere with doing drugs, or is so mentally ill they can't be helped, the choices are to live on the street or lock them up. The "hard luck poor" are a tiny minority but they fit the media narrative so get the attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999641)

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new-meth/620174/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5171495&forum_id=2#44999647)