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Legal MFEs: What Happens With All The Trump Criminal Cases? Can He Pardon State?

can he pardon himself from the state cases?
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/06/24
no
~~(> ' ' )>
  11/06/24
its supposedly "up in the air" but yes he will and...
Bill DaWall
  11/06/24
180, but ive always heard that a potus cant pardon state cri...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/06/24
he needs to do it anyways on day one while hes still in powe...
Bill DaWall
  11/06/24
Can't pardon, but a state attempting to prosecute and/or imp...
David Poaster Wallace
  11/06/24
so the ny convictions will be valid and sentencing can just ...
...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,
  11/06/24
They’re done here, but not sure how. Wonder if he...
Epistemic Humility
  11/06/24
He can't pardon himself for them, but he can preempt them. ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/06/24
Why can’t he pardon himself from them?
Epistemic Humility
  11/06/24
The Founders were TRUMPmos but it’s hard to see 225 ye...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
  11/06/24
ruby ridge was fucked up
biglaw lives matter (retired)
  11/06/24
he says he's going to fire jack smith georgia appellate c...
N904PD
  11/06/24
"georgia appellate court will kick fani of case and the...
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  11/06/24
my prediction is that the appellate courts in NY will make s...
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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:37 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


can he pardon himself from the state cases?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297780)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 10:57 AM
Author: ~~(> ' ' )>

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48299079)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:38 AM
Author: Bill DaWall

its supposedly "up in the air" but yes he will and shitlibs will go nuts about it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297787)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:40 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


180, but ive always heard that a potus cant pardon state crimes. what's the legal argument that he can?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297795)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:46 AM
Author: Bill DaWall

he needs to do it anyways on day one while hes still in power and tell libs to stfu about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297829)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: David Poaster Wallace

Can't pardon, but a state attempting to prosecute and/or imprision a sitting President cannot be constitutional.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297838)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:49 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


so the ny convictions will be valid and sentencing can just be deferred, in theory?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297848)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:47 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

They’re done here, but not sure how.

Wonder if he’s gonna fire Jack Smith.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297833)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 8:48 AM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

He can't pardon himself for them, but he can preempt them. This has been done a number of times when state prosecutors have tried to charge, e.g., federal agents for alleged crimes committed in the line of duty (idaho prosecutors tried to charge the ruby ridge sniper).

Between removal/preemption, immunity, stay, etc., if (1) libs stay motivated on this for another 4 years (I doubt this; the strategy did not go well overall); and (2) TRUMP gets swept on the open issues still to be decided in the courts, then they'll be able to sustain the "conviction" in the NY state case, and maybe even impose a sentence in 2028 (this will almost certainly be non-custodial, and any attempt at a custodial sentence will cause me to revise my betting odds of TRUMP getting the conviction tossed wholesale in the courts up to >90%).

But yeah man, libs' little fantasy of locking up their political enemy is Over. Not 95% over. 100% over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48297836)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 10:49 AM
Author: Epistemic Humility

Why can’t he pardon himself from them?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48298999)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 12:33 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

The Founders were TRUMPmos but it’s hard to see 225 years into the future.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48300001)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 12:39 PM
Author: biglaw lives matter (retired)

ruby ridge was fucked up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48300056)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 9:48 AM
Author: N904PD

he says he's going to fire jack smith

georgia appellate court will kick fani of case and then "council of das" or whatever will dismiss

new York is supposed to sentence him in a couple of weeks. could just give him unsupervised probation and be done with it, but let's see how the resistance goes!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48298404)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 12:36 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


"georgia appellate court will kick fani of case and then "council of das" or whatever will dismiss"

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they will disqualify her. hearing in December.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48300026)



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Date: November 6th, 2024 12:36 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


my prediction is that the appellate courts in NY will make short work of the civil and criminal matters there. the oral argument on the civil fraud was a polite bloodbath for the state of NY. the judges were like, "$300 million fraud when no one was defrauded, the banks showed that they made money, the banks made their own lending decision?"

as for the federal matters, there is a DOJ policy not to prosecute crimes against sitting POTUSes. we'll see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5628100&forum_id=2#48300020)