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any way to cure chronic, decades long depression?
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:27 PM Author: Elon's Musk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255292) |
Date: October 29th, 2024 5:28 PM Author: hank_scorpio psychedelics can provide temporary relief, but that's about it, your depression is a rational reaction to life and you are not protected by enough self delusion to engage with normal coping mechanisms (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255299) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:30 PM Author: Elon's Musk you sure that isnt a feel good excuse that you've convinced yourself is true so that you don't have to confront the crippling reality of your social anxiety or the shame surrounding your chronic depressive state?
you pat yourself on the back for being an intelligent and deep thinker in your alone time, but all you really do is ruminate on your emotional state.
you have no real ideas, no tangible discoveries.
write them down. Nothing. be honest for once, and confront it.
you scoff at those 'low iq' people having fun and living their lives, but since all you have to show for your deep introspection is absolutely nothing,
you feel a covert disdain for them. so blissfully unaware, yet they have an underserved joy that has painstakingly escaped you.
their carefree life reminds you of all of the time that you have wasted.
perhaps you can continue convincing yourself that you're somehow cursed with an introspection others do not have.
the genius who takes pride in being sad and misunderstood.
or you could just go outside. |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:40 PM Author: hank_scorpio that is cope for thinking you might get better, the depressive state is a part of human nature and the coping mechanisms necessary to avoid it are indeed delusional, plenty of intelligent people manage it but they are absolutely kidding themselves about everything, James talked about "dead options" or some phrase very similar to that, basically once you cease to believe something you cannot get it back
in addition, every single person you have ever known in your entire life is lying to you about how happy they are |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:35 PM Author: ;..........,,,...,,.;.,,...,,,;.;. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255833) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: sph Depression is caused by diet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255328) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: Elon's Musk explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255330) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:37 PM Author: sph Gut inflammation from a bad diet interferes with serotonin production. A "good" diet for you is whatever doesn't cause gut inflammation, which won't necessarily line up with a stereotypical "clean", "healthy" or "whole foods" diet. Just need to experiment and be willing to stick with it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255343) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:40 PM Author: hank_scorpio exacerbated, not caused (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255359) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:42 PM Author: infraphysics is hetero Yes, easily (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255365) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:43 PM Author: Elon's Musk expound (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255368) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:45 PM Author: infraphysics is hetero what are you willing to let die (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255378) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 5:45 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,. yes, in my experience (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255375) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 6:18 PM Author: parry0tter explain (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255458) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 6:56 PM Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,..,:::,.,.,:,.,.:.,:.,:.::,. crying often slowly dissipated my baseline depression and anxiety to a much more manageable level, and as i continue to cry it continues to get better. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255652) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:17 PM Author: ,.,,,.,,,,..,.,.,.,.,.,.,..,., Meditation, psychedelics and exercise are the only way I could manage it.
Traditional talk therapy and psychiatry were simply ineffective and frustrating. If I had major depression again, I would go straight for the psilocybin. |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:17 PM Author: labs lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255746) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:19 PM Author: Future Exhibit A (Dork Enlightenment) poast on xo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255750) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:23 PM Author: lex i hate the idea that emotional states are reliant on external circumstances, that you can't philosophize yourself to happiness, but ime all you can really do is fake happiness for long enough to pull yourself out of despair and slowly improve your life. life is crushingly unfair in that those with nothing lose even more, but so it goes. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255765) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:27 PM Author: hank_scorpio that isn't happiness though, it's getting by there is a reason pretty much zero philosophers give a single fuck about "happiness" as a concept and Epicurus started us all of with "you're fucked but don't eat too much or anything else, it will just make it worse" |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:28 PM Author: lex aristotle and most ancient philosophers would like a word with you, faggot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255794) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:31 PM Author: hank_scorpio I am addressing that specifically, Aristotle preached the golden mean which would lead to a noble life, he did not say shit would make you happy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255803) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:33 PM Author: lex if by happiness you mean a feeling of joy, that isn't identical with flourishing (eudaimonia), but it's an accidental property that follows naturally from flourishing. he was concerned with the salient cause and not any of its effects, but he was not unconcerned with emotions. in fact, the formulation of ethical virtue includes cultivation/habituation of the right sorts of dispositions, which includes emotional responses (including joy) befitting the circumstances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255820) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:35 PM Author: hank_scorpio none of which has jack shit to do with anything like your notion of happiness, if you think it does you profoundly misunderstand the ancients, they are concerned with living well, indeed Aristotle would have chided those seeking happiness for not being even keeled (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255834) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:37 PM Author: lex my notion of happiness is indeed eudaimonia. i distinguished the affective state of joy for a reason, as i take it that's your notion of happiness. this is babby's first philosophy class shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255840) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:38 PM Author: hank_scorpio then you are not discussing the question posed by this thread, you are equivicating and attempting to force in a state that is not even remotely related to what any modern person means by happiness and dress it up with the greek word (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255855) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:41 PM Author: lex my response upthread was a lament that happiness in the sense of ethical virtue is not sufficient for happiness in the sense of affective joy. later philosophers in aristotle's tradition tend to hold that it is sufficient. i'm not agreeing with aristotle (or what i take his likely position to be), but it's wrong to say aristotle was unconcerned with affective joy. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255876) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:42 PM Author: hank_scorpio he made no claim to guide you to it that I am aware of, they all end up in the same place, happiness is impossible so take what you can get, buddha too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255883) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:37 PM Author: ;..........,,,...,,.;.,,...,,,;.;. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255847) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:36 PM Author: ( ''.'') quit job. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48255836) |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 7:42 PM Author: ;..........,,,...,,.;.,,...,,,;.;. yes, mine disappeared afaik. but only because my "depression" slowly gave way to intense anxiety that is so much worse.
there is a profound realization about existence that every intelligent person has eventually, and once you have it there is no coming back as far as i can tell. if someone has had it then they will know. if not, there's no point in explaining it. |
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Date: October 29th, 2024 8:02 PM Author: Elon's Musk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5620499&forum_id=2#48256008) |