Why are Dems trying to blame global/national trends for loss rather than Kamala?
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Date: November 8th, 2024 9:16 AM
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do you think it's because they subconsciously know that she was a DEI candidate, and that there's something unseemly about openly shitting on someone who shouldn't have even been there in the first place? like, if you hire someone purely because of demographics, and it turns out they're shitty, you tend to blame yourself rather than that person because in some sense that's where the blame should lie, but also it doesn't feel good to criticize someone who just couldn't help it?
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Date: November 8th, 2024 9:32 AM
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It's bizarre. They immediately attacked HRC who did far better than Kamala.
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Date: November 8th, 2024 10:02 AM
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Date: November 8th, 2024 11:16 AM
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Date: November 8th, 2024 11:53 AM
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Date: November 8th, 2024 11:57 AM
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it takes a lot of introspection to say, "we by-passed the voting process repeatedly and did it this time to select a DEI candidate with a terrible track record in electoral contests."
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Date: November 8th, 2024 1:12 PM
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do you think they at least think this, even if they're not saying it?
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Date: November 8th, 2024 1:55 PM
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i'd bet my life there are quite a few elite libs who are saying this behind closed doors.
the Dem train went off the tracks with Obama. he was a once in a century level opportunity. so even though he was a junior senator who had accomplished nothing in his professional life they went with him. at that point the DNC began to peremptorily select candidates rather than trust the voting process. Hillary, Biden, and Harris were all the result of that process.
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Date: November 8th, 2024 1:27 PM
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Dems could not have won in this climate. That said a Shapiro/whoever ticket probably would have won the popular vote and let Dems maintain the fiction that Trump is an illegitimate president.
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Date: November 8th, 2024 1:45 PM
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you don't think 2008 obama would have won in this environment?
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Date: November 8th, 2024 1:49 PM Author: Ass Sunstein
Because it's true.
Kamala wasn't a superstar candidate but she wasn't terrible. Basically a "replacement-level" candidate, no worse than Biden or Kerry or Romney really. Better than McCain and Dole.
I think Trump would have still beaten any of the other Dem contenders (Shapiro, Newsom, Biden, whoever), so I don't think it was a terrible error running Kamala.
2008 Obama was a superstar candidate so, yeah, Trump probably wouldn't have beaten 2008 Obama.
Trends like inflation, the economy, mood about whether things are improving or not, etc are always the most important.
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Date: November 8th, 2024 3:45 PM
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Lol no she's much worse than Kerry, Romney or Dole are you kidding me? They may have been stiffs or in the wrong time but she's genuinely dumb.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5630094&forum_id=2#48311879) |
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