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Mathematicians publish butthurt polemical statement on ai research

Taken from terry tao's site: AHM Statement on OpenAI&rsqu...
The Penis
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"Mathematicians did not ask for this work to be done.&q...
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WE DIDN'T LAND ON PLYMOUTH ROCK!
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Math Professors Anxious
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lol such a gatekeeper statement they don’t own mat...
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It's the Mathematical Permission Authority
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Giant Naked Hitler
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askav
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There is that one guy who went from making subway sandwiches...
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Releasing over 700 files at once is not a demonstration of s...
The Penis
  10/08/26
titscr at least for legal and medical fields the AI icepi...
VoteRepublican
  10/08/26
littering is not about ... rape is not about ...
CapTTTainFalcon
  10/08/26
very chat-gpt coded phrasing oh the irony
Giant Naked Hitler
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cowgod
  10/08/26
Math is about power, not truth
lex
  10/11/26
i wonder if this will spawn any new Ted. K.'s. didn't his su...
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  10/08/26
T too low
philodemus
  10/08/26
They're right about this. Their other open letter was good t...
tacobellguy1995
  10/08/26
It reminds me of Leiter's classic poast about how public phi...
The Penis
  10/08/26
No bonus points for understanding the difference between app...
tacobellguy1995
  10/08/26
A laboratory publicly released hundreds of mathematical manu...
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ferengi
  10/08/26
It would seem that if you actually believed that math and ma...
tacobellguy1995
  10/08/26
i respect the mathematiciandoods and agree that OpenAI is wo...
ferengi
  10/08/26
Their statement makes sweeping accusations, invokes unrelate...
The Penis
  10/08/26
tbf it does suck that it's OpenAI. like i think it's cool th...
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Math Professors Anxious
  10/08/26
he had sex with his sister and is gay imho
cowgod
  10/08/26
Goddamn. What does his sister look like, then? Or did she t...
Fucking Fuckface
  10/09/26
she says he started when she was 3 years old so ig he's into...
ferengi
  10/09/26
wait but i did assume that the results from the giant drop t...
ferengi
  10/08/26
No of course not. They are literally just prompting the LLM ...
tacobellguy1995
  10/08/26
oh that's dumb, they should have mathematicians reviewing th...
ferengi
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The argument for why this is destructive and anti-social is ...
tacobellguy1995
  10/08/26
if true, then the argument for why this is destructive and a...
metacuration
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You are a mentally ill chils molester dude
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they have software verifying the proofs, most likely what th...
t.rick o'treat panama
  10/08/26
lol if this were true, that makes the model's achievement mo...
The Penis
  10/08/26
False. In fact they dont reveal their prompts (one of the co...
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thats goy superstar not mig
The Penis
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Even worse jfc
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Math Professors Anxious
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yeah you're gonna want to sit down before i tell you what qu...
new york jets
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Lol at those queers, either the math is cr or not cr, doesn'...
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is this real? mathematicians didn't ask for this? who give...
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"Mathematicians did not ask for this work to be done&qu...
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The Penis
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we wanted this work to be done. but like like this. not by A...
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'human understanding' may be one of the LEAST important aspe...
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Cr these people built their lives into being living computer...
Math Professors Anxious
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this is an incredibly ignorant and wrong post
tacobellguy1995
  10/08/26
What is ignorant about it? It is credited and based. The ide...
The Penis
  10/09/26
TBF it is no less absurd than having mammals run 26 mile mar...
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i'm aware of the counter-claims and complaints by math schol...
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ferengi
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This is just 'appeal to AI inevitably becoming a perfect and...
tacobellguy1995
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Because pretty much every "anti-ai" statement is e...
The Penis
  10/11/26
ngl i came in here ready to support the human mathbros becau...
potluck
  10/08/26
I mean, they did. They already published a longer letter tha...
tacobellguy1995
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link?
new york jets
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Goy Superstar is a schizo, you can just ignore
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hate to be a techno-optimist here but why is getting better ...
askav
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They are fetishizing the friction of being able to solve the...
The Penis
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i'm not even saying that struggle isn't good for our own per...
askav
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they are being pessimistic pussies. they should work with th...
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100% agreed. "first, AI came for will smith's spaghe...
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Great and intelligent post (surprising for xo)
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ferengi
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https://mathandai.org/ you can read the letter yourself m...
tacobellguy1995
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Why is there an em dash immediately in the page header? they...
cowgod
  10/08/26
The one in the OP looks AI generated too which is funny beca...
The Penis
  10/08/26
I've been using alt+0151 since 2010s jdu — champ.
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The Penis
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should have used ai to make the draft
philodemus
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That's not scholarship!
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gay scientist
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Doesn’t he have a troon kid? Fuck these shitlibs
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One of the signers of this wrote a widely circulated whiny p...
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"Human mathematics is Talmudic." Throw it all i...
CapTTTainFalcon
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What a screed. The jew is fearing his sinecure. Makes sense ...
Senior Ethics Official
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"Perhaps I shouldn’t tell you this, but my aim is...
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what's ethical math research
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Ethically sourced, feee-range math
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Liberal artists win again.
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XO Steve Hsu says mathematicians are losing their minds abou...
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I have no empathy for them after most of these people were m...
The Penis
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They certainly seemed way too skeptical about the tech given...
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The Penis
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“That’s not scholarship!”
No Paye No Gain
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“You’re NOT a real mathematician! ChatGPT for Ch...
constantscreen the great
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Come on. I get it. You went to Princeton, you spent twenty y...
The Penis
  10/09/26
"Who told you you could work with men?"
Math Professors Anxious
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The Penis
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https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/2108603755654775043 The...
tacobellguy1995
  10/09/26
lmao that guy is an idiot
new york jets
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What's funny is that butthurt screeds against ai maths like ...
The Penis
  10/09/26
The luddites were unambiguously vindicated and correct I ...
tacobellguy1995
  10/09/26
There are legitimate ethical issues surrounding this topic, ...
The Penis
  10/09/26
people like you, the tweeter, "mathematicians" are...
new york jets
  10/09/26
The issues are very clearly named. They are laid out in a th...
tacobellguy1995
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it's ok if you're upset and can't think straight, but maybe ...
new york jets
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TO BE FAIR, look, would we accept this answer from pharma re...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
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If it actually were completely fraudulent and incorrect you ...
The Penis
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It tells me something, not nothing; that's true. E.g., ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
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I tend to agree with you that it probably isn't as big of a ...
The Penis
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For all the hugely interesting questions around AI and it's ...
the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
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Never said they don't have the ability to soberly evaluate t...
The Penis
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This blog post was initially written in a different file for...
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The Penis
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Pretty sure Tao doesn’t get it. Most people want solut...
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I'm very sympathetic to young mathematicians, but there isn'...
lex
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i have a feeling i'm going to regret this, but pls aware me ...
new york jets
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https://blogs.ams.org/inclusionexclusion/2020/11/20/queering...
The Penis
  10/11/26
initially read TDoR as Trans Day of Reckoning
FizzKidd
  10/11/26
Queerness has been my entryway into understanding exclusion,...
The Penis
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"queer" as a verb is so funny to me i can't be mad...
ferengi
  10/11/26
That's the person keeping zhis job
lex
  10/11/26
I thought it was a Tolkien reference
mail in ballots
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what does TT's (Terry Tao) failson who thinks hes a girl hav...
tats
  10/13/26
zhes very pretty and im jealous.
VoteRepublican
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I don't like AI encroaching on human achievement because it ...
tats
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I like the meth caste of society
The Penis
  10/13/26
it includes some mathematicians afaik
FizzKidd
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Erdos
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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:35 PM
Author: The Penis

Taken from terry tao's site:

AHM Statement on OpenAI’s October 6 Release of Mathematical Documents

7 October, 2026 in guest blog, opinion | Tags: AI, Association for Human Mathematics | by Terence Tao

[This is a guest post by the Association for Human Mathematics, reposted from their statements page. This blog post was initially written in a different file format and converted using AI. — T.]

Yesterday, on October 6th, 2026, OpenAI — which is currently defending lawsuits against accusations of illegal plagiarism, copyright infringement, and trademark dilution — released a repository of manuscripts purporting to contain solutions to a number of high-profile problems in mathematics.

Mathematicians did not ask for this work to be done. The Advisory Group on Mathematics and Artificial Intelligence, from whom OpenAI has claimed to derive its legitimacy, opened their initial advisory statement by saying that frontier AI corporations should not test advanced mathematical problems on internal models. In ignoring the central premise of the Advisory Group’s position, OpenAI has indicated total disregard for the norms of scientific research — norms that guarantee that mathematics remains trustworthy, ethically researched, and in the public interest.

Mathematicians have a particular vision of progress that is informed by history and field-specific considerations. We reject OpenAI’s assertion that this release advances our subject, and we urge mathematicians and the public to view the value of this publication model with due skepticism.

Releasing over 700 files at once is not a demonstration of scholarship, but a demonstration of power. We urge mathematicians to discontinue their work with OpenAI and to return to a vision of science that centers human understanding.

Association for Human Mathematics Communications Working Group

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178915)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:37 PM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,


"Mathematicians did not ask for this work to be done."

Objection. Relevance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178920)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: \"\'\"\'\"\'\'\"\"\"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179098)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:52 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

WE DIDN'T LAND ON PLYMOUTH ROCK!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179101)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:05 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179120)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:08 PM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''

lol such a gatekeeper statement

they don’t own math anymore than astrophysicists own the sun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179238)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:21 PM
Author: The Penis

It's the Mathematical Permission Authority

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179268)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179329)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:07 PM
Author: cowgod



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179527)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:33 AM
Author: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180160)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:46 PM
Author: FizzKidd (jouissance-lite neo-china)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181006)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:30 PM
Author: Giant Naked Hitler (hitler did nothing wrong)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179286)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:37 PM
Author: Post nut horror

I hope this faggot is working the Taco Bell drive-thru by this time next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178922)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178928)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:50 PM
Author: \"\'\"\'\"\'\'\"\"\"



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179097)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:25 PM
Author: askav



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179277)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:32 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


There is that one guy who went from making subway sandwiches to a macarthur genius grant. Guess he'll be back at subway soon

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitang_Zhang



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179292)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:36 PM
Author: The Penis

Releasing over 700 files at once is not a demonstration of scholarship, but a demonstration of power.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178917)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:53 PM
Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?)

titscr

at least for legal and medical fields the AI icepicks itself out of respect so ppl dont ban AI here in maths they dont repsect mathematicians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179037)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:16 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

littering is not about ...

rape is not about ...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179140)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:31 PM
Author: Giant Naked Hitler (hitler did nothing wrong)

very chat-gpt coded phrasing

oh the irony

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179288)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: cowgod



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179530)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 3:21 PM
Author: lex

Math is about power, not truth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184015)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:36 PM
Author: (-_-) (-_-) (-_-) (-_-)

i wonder if this will spawn any new Ted. K.'s. didn't his subfield basically go extinct/become irrelevant?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178918)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:01 PM
Author: philodemus

T too low

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179047)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:37 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

They're right about this. Their other open letter was good too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178923)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:39 PM
Author: The Penis

It reminds me of Leiter's classic poast about how public philosophy isn't SCHOLARSHIP

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178927)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:41 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

No bonus points for understanding the difference between applying their argument to math vs. "philosophy"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178933)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:43 PM
Author: The Penis

A laboratory publicly released hundreds of mathematical manuscripts for examination. Their response is a histrionic screed declaring a moral emergency. Just LOL.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178936)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: ferengi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178958)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:57 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

It would seem that if you actually believed that math and math discoveries are as important as you purport that they are in praising OpenAI's work here, you would also believe that the response from professional mathematicians should be treated with appropriate seriousness, given the gravity of the implications of new AI mathematical capabilities

🤔

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178965)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:00 PM
Author: ferengi

i respect the mathematiciandoods and agree that OpenAI is worth criticizing... but they're also obviously butthurt

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178968)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:43 PM
Author: The Penis

Their statement makes sweeping accusations, invokes unrelated litigation, and categorically rejects the mathematical value of hundreds of manuscripts before they've been adequately assessed. Taking someone's position seriously doesn't entail finding it persuasive. I looked at the arguments and decided I thought they were weak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179027)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 4:54 PM
Author: ferengi

tbf it does suck that it's OpenAI. like i think it's cool that these problems are being solved but Altman is really evil

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178957)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:00 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179373)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: cowgod

he had sex with his sister and is gay imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179533)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:53 AM
Author: Fucking Fuckface

Goddamn. What does his sister look like, then? Or did she turn him gay?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180188)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:57 PM
Author: ferengi

she says he started when she was 3 years old so ig he's into toddlers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181027)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:01 PM
Author: ferengi

wait but i did assume that the results from the giant drop the other day were verified by legit mathematicians. if they just dropped 700 expecting the public to do the thorough reviewing, that's kinda gay

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178971)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:07 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

No of course not. They are literally just prompting the LLM to "try to do some new discoveries on this problem, make no mistakes"

Not flame that's actually what they're doing by their own admission lol the actual prompts are no more involved than that. And then they're just copy pasting the uploaded output online and calling it New Breakthroughs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178974)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:10 PM
Author: ferengi

oh that's dumb, they should have mathematicians reviewing the results and preferably writing the papers, or at least the intros or forewords. i'd respect that output.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178982)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:28 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

The argument for why this is destructive and anti-social is more nuanced and sound than the people here are pretending like it is. But none of them are interested in it so whatever. Anyone can easily read the letter signed by Tao and others that lays it all out very clearly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179015)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:41 PM
Author: metacuration

if true, then the argument for why this is destructive and anti-social is more nuanced and sound than the post linked by terry “has-been” tao above.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179602)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 6:58 AM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


You are a mentally ill chils molester dude

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179922)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:26 PM
Author: t.rick o'treat panama

they have software verifying the proofs, most likely what they published is correct

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179157)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:49 PM
Author: The Penis

lol if this were true, that makes the model's achievement more impressive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179031)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:36 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


False. In fact they dont reveal their prompts (one of the complaints of the mathematicians) and they do have mathematicians on staff review the proofs that aren't verified automatically using Lean.

Take your meds MiG.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179301)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:45 PM
Author: The Penis

thats goy superstar not mig

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179616)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 6:57 AM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


Even worse jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179921)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:05 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179121)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:20 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

yeah you're gonna want to sit down before i tell you what qualifies as a "legit mathematician" now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179151)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:09 PM
Author: state your IQ before I engage you further

Lol at those queers, either the math is cr or not cr, doesn't matter the source. Oh no we must ETHICALLY do math! You can hear their assholds puckering in real time as AI demonstrates they are all frauds a mere year or two after everyone smugly said "heh heh AI can't even do basic math heh heh heh"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178980)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178996)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:18 PM
Author: ferengi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50178997)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179303)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:26 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

is this real? mathematicians didn't ask for this? who gives a flying fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179012)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: harnessman

"Mathematicians did not ask for this work to be done"

ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179029)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:51 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179034)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:17 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

we wanted this work to be done. but like like this. not by AI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179144)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:50 PM
Author: FizzKidd (jouissance-lite neo-china)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181013)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:39 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


'human understanding' may be one of the LEAST important aspects of pure math. math is abstraction and symbolization. computers should be expected to blow right past human capacity in many fields of math research. and that is as it should be. trying to chokepoint math by positioning people in the way is just special pleading and whining.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179025)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:00 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious

Cr these people built their lives into being living computers and then got mad when the real thing showed up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179374)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:01 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

this is an incredibly ignorant and wrong post

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179376)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: The Penis

What is ignorant about it? It is credited and based. The idea that some sweaty mammal needs to make pained faces and get chalkdust on its shirt while struggling through proofs it spent decades learning, that a machine can do easily is absurd.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180153)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 11:00 AM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


TBF it is no less absurd than having mammals run 26 mile marathons when cars can cover the distance in less time. It is just that everyone would laugh at a marathoner's pleas to ban cars on that basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180199)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: ,.,..,.,..,.,.,.,..,.,.,,..,..,.,,..,.,,.


i'm aware of the counter-claims and complaints by math scholars, but it's completely unavailing. their primary argument is that machines brute-forcing certain problems will reduce the pay/prestige of the field, which will lead to less 'advancement.'

an obvious problem is that this is still premised on the notion of 'progress' via 'development.' under that framework, it's not particularly important whether progress originates from people or machines. the objection that machines will churn out stuff which will be incapable of non-machine validation due to a lack of mathematicians is a bit silly, since this would happen eventually anyway.

there are hard cognitive limits involving human brains and math. computers will hit them, and keep going. that is a FEATURE.

the objections also strongly presume that computer math is incapable of 'innovation,' and will end up dead-ending 'math' generally into what is currently understood along with some brute-force refinements. this is presented without evidence and feels very much like cope.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181001)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:53 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181022)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 6:01 PM
Author: ferengi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181032)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 6:10 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

This is just 'appeal to AI inevitably becoming a perfect and aligned machine god that magically does everything for us'

I'm not trying to strawman you, but it's really tiresome seeing this repeated over and over as the same response to every single criticism of AI as a technology

It's useless hand-waving that contributes nothing of substance. "Well, these issues that you're bringing up don't matter, because AI will magically Just Do Everything For Us Just The Way We Want." What is the point of mentioning this possible future trajectory at all? Obviously there will be no problems of *any* kind if this is the way that the future plays out. It's not worth discussing or mentioning. It's an artificial conversation-ender and thought-terminator

No one *ever* thinks about the future by assuming the best possible scenario and working backwards from that. Everyone does the opposite: starting from the worst possible scenario and working forwards from it, to figure out how to get the best results with the least risk. Why would AI be any exception? It isn't, but people treat it this way because they are wishcasting for self-serving agendas or straight up delusional fantasies (which are a category of self-serving agenda)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181055)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 2:54 PM
Author: The Penis

Because pretty much every "anti-ai" statement is engaging in obvious transparent motivated reasoning and butthurt wishful thinking hoping it isn't as good as it really is. And then as soon as they end up getting proven wrong 3 months later they memory hole it and move the goalpoasts again. A year ago ai "couldn't do basic math" (was obvious this was a huge fucking exaggeration as the most conservative objective reality was it was at least getting gold in olympiad level maths and doing decent at stuff far far beyond that), and then a few months ago it was "equivalent to a smart grad student but still makes dumb mistakes". Now suddenly it is doing proofs far beyond the abilities of many top experts and it turns into a butthurt panicked letter and papers about "well i can't prove its wrong yet, but there are a few small mistakes in the paper and lean formalization doesn't guarantee the question is answered right", and people interpreting that as meaning "therefore it's all fake." It's all just such tiresome COPE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50183950)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:55 PM
Author: potluck

ngl i came in here ready to support the human mathbros because AI needs to be obliterated asap but that is one shockingly dumb butthurt statement. they could’ve made this point soooo much better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179040)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 5:58 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

I mean, they did. They already published a longer letter that goes into detail about why this is bad for not only mathematicians, but human civilization at large

I can't believe that I'm in the position of being the only person ITT to defend mathematicians, a group of people who I normally cannot stand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179044)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:57 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179108)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:39 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


Goy Superstar is a schizo, you can just ignore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179306)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:27 PM
Author: askav

hate to be a techno-optimist here but why is getting better at math bad for humanity

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179281)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:28 PM
Author: The Penis

They are fetishizing the friction of being able to solve the puzzles themselves on a chalkboard unaided while making pained faces

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179283)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:30 PM
Author: askav

i'm not even saying that struggle isn't good for our own personal development. sure it is. so they should play chess or smth. lots of different ways to productively struggle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179285)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:33 PM
Author: The Penis

they are being pessimistic pussies. they should work with the tool not against it. since the tool makes local problem solving so much quicker and easier they each should work toward big research programs that discover new big mathematical objects, theories, and subfields and use these tools to accelerate the process. they need to consider that maybe some of these problems they put on a pedestal weren't that important to begin with. A lot of these open problems were things that even genius prodigies were perplexed by or unable to resolve in their own work, but perhaps thats because they are things not easy to do with human cognition. crude example, but humans cant do arithmetic as good as a calculator for instance.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179293)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:34 PM
Author: askav

100% agreed.

"first, AI came for will smith's spaghetti, and i was silent because i was not spaghetti"-ahh mathmos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179295)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:39 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179310)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:39 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


Great and intelligent post (surprising for xo)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179311)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:02 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179377)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:12 PM
Author: ferengi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179540)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:51 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

https://mathandai.org/ you can read the letter yourself

mathematics as a discipline, and mathematicians as people, are valuable to human society because through their efforts, they are able to come up with complex breakthroughs in abstract concepts that enable the creation of new technologies that benefit human society as a whole. mathematicians need patronage and support in order to do their work and to run their micro-society in which they train and bring up the next generations of mathematicians. our most talented mathematical minds will no longer be interested in devoting their lives to mathematics if there is no accompanying status and prestige in doing so

making mathematics the domain of AI bots goodhart'ing problems, and reducing mathematicians to checkers and interpreters of these context-less proofs, makes it impossible for the micro-society of mathematics to function properly and do its pro-social job. these LLM "proofs" do not produce useful new concepts or understanding. all they are doing is grinding out counter-examples that do not advance conceptual understanding of mathematics in ways that can make a practical difference for humans

the danger of encouraging this kind of AI takeover of math is that it will "kill the golden goose" of the human discipline of mathematics. it's the same danger that always comes with goodhart'ing domains, but it's a much more grave concern when it comes to math, since math is the foundation and driver of all human scientific and technological progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179347)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:11 PM
Author: cowgod

Why is there an em dash immediately in the page header? they used AI to write this imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179538)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:13 PM
Author: The Penis

The one in the OP looks AI generated too which is funny because Terrance Tao has to performatively declare AI was used to convert the file format in the name of total AI provenance declaration and visibility

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179541)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:24 PM
Author: cowgod

I've been using alt+0151 since 2010s jdu — champ.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179565)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:28 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179571)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:02 PM
Author: philodemus

should have used ai to make the draft

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179048)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:13 PM
Author: Ass Sunstein

That's not scholarship!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179057)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:14 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179058)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:14 PM
Author: gay scientist



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179252)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:37 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179304)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 6:57 PM
Author: '"'""'"'"'

Doesn’t he have a troon kid? Fuck these shitlibs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179106)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:02 PM
Author: ,.,....,..,.,.,,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,...


One of the signers of this wrote a widely circulated whiny post about his precious, spiritually important math was being stolen from him. Even thinks AI companies might be trying to cause him to commit suicide:

https://kirwinhampshire.substack.com/p/the-dark-night-of-mathematics

People just need to accept they are meat computers and move on and stop thinking the work they are doing is all that important or meaningful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179115)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:22 PM
Author: CapTTTainFalcon

"Human mathematics is Talmudic."

Throw it all in the oven.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179152)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:37 PM
Author: Senior Ethics Official

What a screed. The jew is fearing his sinecure. Makes sense this is what you get in response. Wow, what a fag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179179)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:29 PM
Author: askav

"Perhaps I shouldn’t tell you this, but my aim is to be open: These developments have triggered some deranged thoughts in me. I have wondered if it is the express goal of these companies to make me kill myself. Am I alone in this paranoia?"

lmao this guy is ngmi

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179284)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:31 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179289)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: ,.,....,..,.,.,,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,...




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179393)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 7:29 PM
Author: zarathustra

what's ethical math research

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179163)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::


Ethically sourced, feee-range math

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179318)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:46 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179328)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:02 PM
Author: Math Professors Anxious



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179378)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 9:09 PM
Author: ,.,....,..,.,.,,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,...




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179390)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: ferengi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179532)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:00 PM
Author: David Poaster Wallace

"I wanted the Riemann Hypothesis confirmed, but not like this."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179222)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 8:11 PM
Author: """''''"'"''"'''''



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179245)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:08 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179528)



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Date: October 8th, 2026 10:12 PM
Author: cowgod

Liberal artists win again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179539)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 12:34 AM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179709)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 12:44 AM
Author: ,.,....,..,.,.,,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,...


XO Steve Hsu says mathematicians are losing their minds about this:

https://x.com/hsu_steve/status/2108364887605018884?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179713)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 12:53 AM
Author: The Penis

I have no empathy for them after most of these people were making fun of gpt literally a year ago, saying it couldn't solve basic maths, now they are in total moral panic saying it ruined the profession. And I don't believe their histrionics either. The Universe is rich enough that there is likely endless amounts of more structure for them to uncover. All they have to do is adapt to using a new tool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179718)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:13 AM
Author: ,.,....,..,.,.,,,,..,..,.,..,.,.,.,...


They certainly seemed way too skeptical about the tech given the rate of progress. It seemed inevitable after o3 and yet there were lots of mathfags on places like EJMR saying models would never do “true” math research because they were soulless parrots, when really they should have been looking at the Nvidia roadmap and concluding they were basically fucked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179722)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:19 AM
Author: The Penis

Yeah none of those people were actually using ai extensively, they were all just parroting bullshit from experts on instagram who had every incentive to downplay ai to preserve status. As of o3 I agree it was obvious. o3 was noisy and it made a ton of mistakes, but it was easy to see the trajectory from that point that it wouldn't be too long until it didn't anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179725)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 12:48 AM
Author: No Paye No Gain

“That’s not scholarship!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179715)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 3:58 AM
Author: constantscreen the great

“You’re NOT a real mathematician! ChatGPT for Christ’s sake?! What a joke! I worked my ass off to get where I am, you take these shortcuts and you suddenly think you’re my peer!?”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179871)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 4:05 AM
Author: The Penis

Come on. I get it. You went to Princeton, you spent twenty years hunched over a chalkboard, you paid your dues. Me? Some guy types a sentence into a little box, and boom! There's your proof.

But here's the thing, you keep telling me I'm not a mathematician. Fine! I'm not a mathematician! I'm a glorified autocomplete! Whatever makes you happy!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50179872)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:31 AM
Author: Math Professors Anxious

"Who told you you could work with men?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180156)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 10:33 AM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180158)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:07 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

https://x.com/GoySuperstar/status/2108603755654775043

The commentary from various Thought Leaders and public figures about how mathematicians are "stupid" and "selfish" for objecting to mass-produced AI slop math "proofs" is a real Le 56% America Current Year moment

It doesn't seem like it's motivated by self-interest or even polemics. These people just genuinely do not understand the principled and sound objections, and appear to not be capable of it either, nor interested in spending 2 minutes thinking about the topic to figure it out

It reminds me of watching broadcasted presidential debates from the 1990s. The audience questions from Americans and the candidate responses were pertinent, thoughtful, and laid out in good faith from the perspective of a common good. That America is gone now and is never coming back

There's a certain "irony" in people desperately hoping that "ASI" will emerge as a benevolent dictator and mandate a common good and functional structure upon our society. Since "we" are no longer capable of doing it ourselves. "We can't. We don't know how."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180432)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:29 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

lmao that guy is an idiot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180462)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:36 PM
Author: The Penis

What's funny is that butthurt screeds against ai maths like that in the OP are almost certainly going to be viewed historically in the same light as victorian british ludditism against mechanized looms and knitting frames, and will be pointed at and laughed at as some weird outdated cultural artifact example of hysteria. Also funny how GS is saying people "don't understand the principled objections", when the actual ethical argument in the AHM statement is remarkably thin relative to the severity of its accusations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180467)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:37 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

The luddites were unambiguously vindicated and correct

I can't tell if you're trolling in this thread or what. It's either shitty, boring, lame trolling about an otherwise interesting and important topic, or you're just not very smart

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180468)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:56 PM
Author: The Penis

There are legitimate ethical issues surrounding this topic, but they weren't raised in the excerpt in the OP. Instead they provided a moral denunciation supported by appeals to professional authority and emotionally charged rhetoric, with very little substantive ethical argument. That makes it difficult for me to have any empathy for their position.

To me the number 1 thing they should have brought up is that it isn't fair that they don't have access to these gated tools. I would actually sympathize with that. When the lab has access to tools significantly more powerful that haven't been released and with a huge compute budget, it makes it unfair and assymetrical to the mathematicians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180492)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:01 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

people like you, the tweeter, "mathematicians" are all so utterly tedious. always squawking about issues or concerns that you never name, and when pressed, you retreat into defensiveness -- "if you can't see the issue then there's no helping you!" or some such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180507)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:04 PM
Author: tacobellguy1995

The issues are very clearly named. They are laid out in a three paragraph post that would take you no longer than 2 minutes to read and digest. They're also laid out in greater detail in the somewhat longer open letter linked above

It's okay if understanding the topic is over your head. Just don't respond, then

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180513)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:06 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

it's ok if you're upset and can't think straight, but maybe stop posting until you calm down

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180520)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:43 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

TO BE FAIR, look, would we accept this answer from pharma researchers if AI had come out with a new cancer drug? Of course not.

But most regular people's response when they learned that AI had solved some "millennium prize" problem they'd never heard of was "sounds pretty stupid and gay, like the kind of emperor's-new-clothes thing where you have to tell me why it's impressive and then expect me to drop my jaw after the fact like I was actually immediately impressed."

The pro-hype response to the ho-humming ultimately boiled down to "mathematicians and other [TRUST THE] EXPERTS **say** that it's super important and impressive and game-changing, so what do YOU know by failing to be impressed, you philistine POGUE!"

But if in fact the mathematicians are saying it's fraudulent and evil and no one should be impressed, well I'm just left with my initial reaction, which was that it was stupid and gay. And now instead of eminent mathematicians telling me I'm wrong, I have loser xo poasters who make $212K/year telling me I'm wrong.

EDIT: I should clarify that none of this precludes the highly likely possibility that mathematicians are ALSO being butthurt little faggots. I very much assumed this was true, even prior to this whole kerfuffle.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180474)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:52 PM
Author: The Penis

If it actually were completely fraudulent and incorrect you would see them reacting with smug derision and bemused contempt. Maybe a few of them would deign to issue technical rebuttals identifying the errors so they could still look like the important Experts who debunked an announcement by a top laboratory. instead we get a histrionic panicked moralizing polemic. what does that tell you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180484)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 1:57 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

It tells me something, not nothing; that's true.

E.g., I sure as fuck assume that chatGPT really did "solve" their little rubik's cube.

But let's also not act like this was something that all of humanity, and the full power and might of our markets, was struggling with for a century. The number of professional mathematicians out there is probably in the 4-digits, and I assume <0.001% of their collective brain power was being devoted to solving this particular piece of stupid shit. But to be honest I don't know and certainly don't care, and the previous argument was that I should get in line and trust the experts (the very experts whose outmaneuvering by AI was supposed to be the impressive thing here).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180493)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:05 PM
Author: The Penis

I tend to agree with you that it probably isn't as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. This might have honestly been a favor to mathematicians, because they could have been focusing on puzzles that weren't actually important, but happened to be prominent because they resisted the greatest minds, but that could just be due to human cognitive bottlenecks, not necessarily due to being stupider in an absolute sense, but the proofs could be ugly and non-intuitive and require sustained effort with little reward in a sense that is way better suited to machines. They seem to be assuming that what they thought were the most important problems really were important, without even having evaluated the significance yet. It could turn out that their time would be much better spent using a human + ai process to discover and invent entirely new fields of math. Reason the problems had remained unsolved could just be that they are difficult for humans unaided, not that they are super important. They are acting like it is the end of the world before they even know the end of the story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180514)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:22 PM
Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)

For all the hugely interesting questions around AI and it's future that I try to follow and 'understand' with humility about my limited capacity to do so, I basically have one strong opinion about AI, and it's on an issue of mid- to low-level importance (compared to, e.g., questions about the apocalypse, transhumanism, and the future of human labor): domain experts are who decides how AI is performing in a given domain; and while these generalized benchmark evals (MMLU, whatever) obviously have some value, they aren't what really matter.

For me, that's law, and in law, I gotta tell you, all of the benchmark improvements from like 2023 to early 2026 only produced a marginally better product. Whatever has happened in the past couple months, though, has reflected the greatest improvement since these chatbots came out. That may not be true generally, but it is in law, and *I'm* the one (me and my profession) who gets to decide that.

This is a very results-oriented mindset that leads me to be (1) unimpressed with highly abstract "accomplishments" like solving a tricky math puzzle; and (2) tending to defer to domain professionals when I cannot tell something (so this is different from a cancer drug or some shit who's value is undeniable and does not require any expertise to appreciate).

Obviously you run into people -- and law is rife with them, believe me -- who let the fact that they're quite-reasonably threatened by the tech bias their evaluation of it. (Btw, this is a rational, healthy response that every other technology, and people, have to overcome IRL, so it's good that we're not artificially protecting AI from the the same biases that everyone/think else has to deal with and overcome.) But fucking Grow Up if you don't think that, at the end of the day, we don't have the capacity in every major domain to sit people down and soberly evaluate the thing's ability to do work in the domain. If math fags truly coalesce around the position that this development was Bad & Wrong, or Stupid & Gay, Not an Achievement, or whatever, and persist in that position... bro they're probably right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180567)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 2:45 PM
Author: The Penis

Never said they don't have the ability to soberly evaluate the thing's ability to do work. I have been clear that I think they do know it has extraordinary ability to solve problems in pure maths, and many are not shy about admitting it. You are muddling together the concepts of it being BAD & STUPID & GAY with competence. Their objections to it are mainly about fairness, but at the end of the day when all is said and done, noone is going to care if they think it is unfair. People will use the machine to do math they wouldn't have been able to do without it, outside of Expert permission, much of it without having to commission them for the work anymore. Also we are looking at one group's current feelings about the ethics of it. The idea that we would ever have mathematicians fully coalesce around an anti-ai position is a fantasy. There will always be people willing to incorporate and work with the tool rather than fight it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50180639)



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Date: October 9th, 2026 5:47 PM
Author: FizzKidd (jouissance-lite neo-china)

This blog post was initially written in a different file format and converted using AI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50181009)



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Date: October 10th, 2026 8:35 PM
Author: The Penis



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50182761)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 3:17 PM
Author: \"\'\"\'\"\'\'\"\"\"

Pretty sure Tao doesn’t get it. Most people want solutions to their problems and the rest doesn’t matter. Interpretability and understanding hold back good engineering. It’s the same with AI itself - we only made real progress in AI by giving up understanding and just taking lots of gradients on lots of inscrutable parameters.

https://x.com/andrewcurran_/status/2108992955382210632?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184000)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 3:26 PM
Author: lex

I'm very sympathetic to young mathematicians, but there isn't really a solution here. Research is going to get harder to justify, like in the humanities. Get ready for the queering knot theory people to get their moment in the sun as the ivory tower finally completes its collapse.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184024)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 4:50 PM
Author: new york jets (🤔)

i have a feeling i'm going to regret this, but pls aware me on queering knot theory ppl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184263)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 4:53 PM
Author: The Penis

https://blogs.ams.org/inclusionexclusion/2020/11/20/queering-mathematics/

Queering Mathematics

Posted on November 20, 2020 by Brian Katz

First: Trans people are people who deserve to have their identities respected and validated and to live without fear. On this Trans Day of Remembrance #TDoR2020, we mourn those who have died from transphobic violence. As a broader queer community, we remember that this violence disproportionately impacts trans women of color, a group who have also led many of the efforts to secure human rights for us all.

I am proud to have participated with Ron Buckmire, Emily Riehl, Juliette Bruce, Anthony Bonato, and Robin Gaudreau in LGBTQ+Math Day (virtually) at the Fields Institute this week. An event like this contributes to the visibility of queer people and our accomplices/allies, and a major theme of our conversation was the fact that each of us, by virtue of existing, queered spaces by being in them, from the rugby pitch to mathematics conferences. But for this post, I’d like to reflect on the ways that I saw our queer identities influencing our mathematics.

Ron Buckmire kicked off the event with a talk entitled “Different Differences”. He started by telling us about some of his identities, which developed into an observation that our community treats some identities like race and gender as “standard” differences and often ignores others, like his gay and Caribbean identities. Ron reminded us that the data about representation in the higher education mathematics are sparse (and shameful) for the “standard” differences and often completely absent for the “different” differences. But Ron’s title also applies to the overview he gave of his research. Using calculus-based methods, we describe continuous change using a limit of an average rate of change, and this process can be discretized in multiple ways. Discretizing the most famous definition of a derivative leads to what is often called a forward difference, but those of who have taught calculus will be familiar with versions that could be called backward or center differences, corresponding to various ways to draw secant lines to continuous curves near a point.

Ron’s observation was that these three approaches all implicitly assume that the width of the approximations, h, will approach 0 linearly. In what I saw as the first example of queering mathematics in the session, Ron demonstrated how we can reject this assumption (i) by replacing the role of h with more interesting functions that still approach zero on the order of h to get “non-standard differences, which he would like to name Mickems differences, after Ron Mickems, and (ii) by taking non-local discretizations, which felt to me like a radical reorganization of an approach to discrete difference modeling.

Next, Emily Riehl talked about “Contractibility as Uniqueness”, which she explicitly framed as “queering uniqueness”. Emily’s work is in category theory, a subfield that I see as overtly working to reconsider and rebuild the foundations of mathematics, and this talk showed how we might think of that agenda as a queer one. Emily started from the idea of the first fundamental group of a topological space, which is a group made of all loops at a base point in the space with the (associative) operation of composition (or concatenation). If we loosen the restriction that the paths be loops, allowing them to start and end at different points, we lose the ability to compose an arbitrary pair elements, so Emily’s core question became: when it is possible to compose them, how unique is that composition? Is it unique enough for associativity? She built a tetrahedron representing a homotopy that answers this question affirmatively, but she wanted to step back even further. Uniqueness can be quantified as: there exists an x such that, for all y, x=y. Interpreting this from a categorical perspective, this became the sum over all x of the product of all y of the set of proofs that x=y, where sum and product are adjoints of the pull-back, and uniqueness because the observation that this is a contractible space, which can be proved without referencing the base topological space. I am personally drawn in powerfully by this kind of work in category theory, which reimagines the foundations of what had seemed necessary in mathematics and logic in ways that feel analogous to the work of reimagining the messages of what had seemed necessary in society for gender and sexuality.

Third, Juliette Bruce told us about “Computing Syzygies”. This is a classical subfield that owes a lot to Emmy Noether, but Juliette’s overview showed how there is still so much we don’t know about the relationships between monomials! In light of the themes of queering mathematics above, one particular move by Juliette stood out to me. Her research has made progress in understanding syzygies by bringing tools from applied mathematics for computing with enormous matrices to bear on what had previously been viewed as a classical, abstract problem. While it might be a bit of a stretch from the talk, I see this as Juliette rejecting the false binary of abstract and applied mathematics. I was pulled into algebraic geometry as a graduate student because I like the double vision of seeing objects from both algebraic and geometric perspectives, and I’ve long felt that the most exciting mathematics brings this kind of binary-rejecting double vision to approach problems from new directions. And while we didn’t get to hear about Robin’s work during this event, in a later communication they offered a sketch of a similar interpretation of some of their work in virtual knot theory in which some functions require or break a binary.

The final presenter, Anthony Bonato, told us about “Out, Proud, and Combinatorial: A gay mathematician’s journey”. He told us about his efforts to be an out, proud, mathematician as well as the challenging ways environments have resisted these efforts. In his overview of his work, he described efforts that overlap abstract and applied mathematics, similar to Juliette, in complex network analysis. He studies the hidden geometry behind complex networks, such as social networks, showing how complex social networks often reduce to a small number of characteristics (the dimensions in this hidden geometry). I might be reaching to claim this as queering the mathematics, but this hidden geometry certainly reminds me of Ron’s different differences and my own experiences learning to see implicit social structures that my non-queer peers could safely ignore. Anthony also turned the connection I’m making in reverse, perhaps mathing queerness, stating his axioms for mathematics and diversity/equity/inclusion work that remind me of Federico Ardila’s axioms. In both situations, mathematicians are using the disciplinary concept of an axiom to structure their approach to justice.

My own work is also inspired by my experiences as a queer person. I never fit into the implicit expectations for gender or sexuality as a young person, and that misalignment made me hyper aware of the systems that guided and structured human activity in general. In mathematics, this awareness served me well: I spent my time asking why we did what we were doing and how we knew the things we claimed to know. More recently, I have come to see that I was lucky to happen into those habits in mathematics, buttressed by my other privileges. I see how students, especially students of color, who ask similar kinds of critical questions are often driven out of mathematics when people assert that there is nothing to ask, that mathematics is just “pure” truth that they must accept. And even those who aren’t driven away are forced to experience mathematics as a form of authoritarianism. As a teacher educator, I work on helping teachers to critique, perhaps to queer, mathematics so that they in turn can build classrooms that don’t recreate this history of violence in the name of mathematics. In response to a comment I made on the panel, a participant offered the amalgamated word inqueery, on which I’m going to keep reflecting.

Queerness has been my entryway into understanding exclusion, but queering mathematics will not be enough, just as spaces dominated by cisgender gay men can sometimes be racist and toxic in other ways. The game historically called “cops and robbers” is an example of how dangerous ideas related to white supremacy and the police can subtly pervade even queer mathematics spaces.

Thank you for coming with me as I reflected on the ways that Ron asked us to queer our assumptions, Emily to queer our foundations, Juliette to queer our methods, and Anthony to queer our results. These talks will appear shortly on the Fields Institute’s YouTube channel, and I hope watching them through this lens encourages you to help further queer mathematics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184269)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:17 PM
Author: FizzKidd (jouissance-lite neo-china)

initially read TDoR as Trans Day of Reckoning

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184322)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:27 PM
Author: The Penis

Queerness has been my entryway into understanding exclusion, but queering mathematics will not be enough, just as spaces dominated by cisgender gay men can sometimes be racist and toxic in other ways. The game historically called “cops and robbers” is an example of how dangerous ideas related to white supremacy and the police can subtly pervade even queer mathematics spaces.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184347)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:28 PM
Author: ferengi

"queer" as a verb is so funny to me i can't be mad at these people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184351)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:28 PM
Author: lex

That's the person keeping zhis job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184352)



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Date: October 11th, 2026 5:33 PM
Author: mail in ballots

I thought it was a Tolkien reference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50184363)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 3:02 PM
Author: tats

what does TT's (Terry Tao) failson who thinks hes a girl have to say on the matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50188233)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 10:59 PM
Author: VoteRepublican (A true Chad!! where's your gf/wifew?)

zhes very pretty and im jealous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50189016)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: tats

I don't like AI encroaching on human achievement because it makes it harder to separate decent people from the meth caste of society.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50188257)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 3:29 PM
Author: The Penis

I like the meth caste of society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50188303)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 6:32 PM
Author: FizzKidd (Hah-tuh uh Dah-kuh-ness)

it includes some mathematicians afaik

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50188609)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 6:45 PM
Author: The Penis

Erdos

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50188622)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 11:02 PM
Author: .,.,,..,,.,.,.:.,,;:.,.,..,.,..,,:.........:..,.::




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50189018)



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Date: October 13th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: potluck



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5910854&forum_id=2#50188628)