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Couldn't you fire "dummy missiles" alongside real ones to overwhelm defenses?

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in the...
mischievous stain partner
  06/18/25
Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the co...
Umber Apoplectic Regret
  06/18/25
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concupiscible bright field candlestick maker
  06/18/25
Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet...
mischievous stain partner
  06/18/25
What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does...
Thirsty Potus Main People
  06/18/25
They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket...
flickering orange crackhouse
  06/18/25
You can answer the question now
Thirsty Potus Main People
  06/18/25
So this is actually an idea which people have used. The ide...
Umber Apoplectic Regret
  06/18/25
Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.
Thirsty Potus Main People
  06/18/25
What if they use lawnmower drones?
Thirsty Potus Main People
  06/18/25
Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then sh...
motley theater stage twinkling uncleanness
  06/18/25
...
mischievous stain partner
  06/18/25
Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?
Lascivious claret therapy
  06/18/25
Yes
Umber Apoplectic Regret
  06/19/25
just trebuchet hot boulders
Drab Whorehouse
  06/18/25
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Fishy Spectacular State
  06/18/25
(Bobby Birdshit)
Thriller yellow casino
  06/18/25
Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release ...
vibrant gold voyeur senate
  06/18/25
No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and...
Thirsty Potus Main People
  06/18/25
Man think disabled people have it hard enough
mischievous stain partner
  06/18/25
This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.
metal wine location
  06/19/25


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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:49 PM
Author: mischievous stain partner

Like shoot tons of missiles that don't have munitions in them along with some that do, AA doesn't know the difference. Am I some insanely smart war strategist or what? Why doesn't Iran do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029366)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:52 PM
Author: Umber Apoplectic Regret

Because the cost of the explosives is a small part of the cost of the rocket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029376)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 4:54 PM
Author: concupiscible bright field candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029382)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:06 PM
Author: mischievous stain partner

Make cheaper rockets using AI and computers and the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029414)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:08 PM
Author: Thirsty Potus Main People

What if the rocket doesn't have to be fast or accurate? Does it still require engineering you can barely fathom?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029418)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: flickering orange crackhouse

They've already paid for the engineering for the real rocket. You could just fill the explosives chamber with rocks or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029430)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:21 PM
Author: Thirsty Potus Main People

You can answer the question now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029456)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:29 PM
Author: Umber Apoplectic Regret

So this is actually an idea which people have used. The idea is to overwhelm the defenses by sending a lot of dumber, low cost munitions, but sending a dummy makes no sense economically. At some point there are not enough anti-missile weapons to stop them all. This is why drones can be effective; send thousands to the same place you can’t shoot them all down (in theory — shoot drones is pretty easy with a gun based defense, but there are range issues).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029477)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:49 PM
Author: Thirsty Potus Main People

Russia shot an Oreshnik with no warhead. Go back to sleep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030279)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:22 PM
Author: Thirsty Potus Main People

What if they use lawnmower drones?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029458)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:35 PM
Author: motley theater stage twinkling uncleanness

Just store the fake missiles inside the real one and then shoot them out of the real one once it gets close

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029498)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 6:05 PM
Author: mischievous stain partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029596)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:40 PM
Author: Lascivious claret therapy

Don't nuclear missiles actually do this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030056)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: Umber Apoplectic Regret

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49031438)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:39 PM
Author: Drab Whorehouse

just trebuchet hot boulders

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030054)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:47 PM
Author: Fishy Spectacular State



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030068)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: Thriller yellow casino

(Bobby Birdshit)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49029422)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 8:38 PM
Author: vibrant gold voyeur senate

Most cruise missiles carry decoy targets which they release as they fly over high ADA regions. Supposedly some of the early Russian missile strikes in 2022 included completely inert iskander missiles whose explosive payloads were substituted entirely by decoys. This allowed them to fire volleys and have significantly more decoys to overwhelm air defenses, exactly as you suggested.

https://en.topcor.ru/24483-nyt-uznal-o-zapuskaemyh-rossiej-lozhnyh-celjah-vmeste-s-raketami-iskander-m.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030052)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:51 PM
Author: Thirsty Potus Main People

No shit, Iran just shot a missile with a 2,000lb warhead and 48 hours later poasters are saying it costs nothing to add a warhead. Guess Judaism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030286)



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Date: June 18th, 2025 9:52 PM
Author: mischievous stain partner

Man think disabled people have it hard enough

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49030291)



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Date: June 19th, 2025 8:45 AM
Author: metal wine location

This was a plot point in red storm rising by Tom Clancy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5740018&forum_id=2#49031415)