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Noticing cons getting a little mouthy today fresh of SCOTUS birthright ruling

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a fe...
Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry
  06/30/25
off, not of jfc did you not learn English grammar in your E...
Outnumbered onyx corn cake
  06/30/25
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Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry
  06/30/25
Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring...
submissive odious coldplay fan dog poop
  06/30/25
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Charcoal Hunting Ground Party Of The First Part
  06/30/25
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Ultramarine national
  06/30/25
“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”
Adventurous Indirect Expression
  06/30/25
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Ultramarine national
  06/30/25
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Rose zombie-like dilemma
  06/30/25
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Jade heaven
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Domesticated Rigpig
  07/01/25
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Outnumbered onyx corn cake
  07/01/25
Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a clas...
submissive odious coldplay fan dog poop
  06/30/25
So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeac...
Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry
  06/30/25
Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time
metal alcoholic resort really tough guy
  06/30/25
no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pe...
Low-t International Law Enforcement Agency National Security Agency
  06/30/25
except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or...
Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry
  06/30/25
how is Trump being racist about it?
Low-t International Law Enforcement Agency National Security Agency
  06/30/25
180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that
judgmental contagious point boistinker
  06/30/25
(pegging mfe)
Magenta fragrant alpha
  06/30/25
It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST...
trip self-absorbed locus
  06/30/25
Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from...
Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry
  06/30/25
My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to ...
trip self-absorbed locus
  06/30/25
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Outnumbered onyx corn cake
  06/30/25
What legal argument do you think they'll make?
metal alcoholic resort really tough guy
  06/30/25
Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadori...
trip self-absorbed locus
  06/30/25
Cons? https://x.com/newswire_us/status/194331241802258865...
Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry
  07/10/25


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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:11 AM
Author: Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry

When judge issues a new TRO in the class action case in a few days it will knock them back down a few pegs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060060)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:15 AM
Author: Outnumbered onyx corn cake

off, not of

jfc did you not learn English grammar in your ESL classes in Chongqing?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060063)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:16 AM
Author: Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060067)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:23 AM
Author: submissive odious coldplay fan dog poop

Until Rach lets you edit OP’s this will be a recurring problem. It’s on his list.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060083)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:58 AM
Author: Charcoal Hunting Ground Party Of The First Part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060213)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060664)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:24 AM
Author: Adventurous Indirect Expression

“Golden retriever, fresh of the grill!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060091)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: Ultramarine national



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060094)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:29 PM
Author: Rose zombie-like dilemma



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060673)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:27 AM
Author: Jade heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062423)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 3:28 AM
Author: Domesticated Rigpig



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062424)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 4:07 AM
Author: Outnumbered onyx corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062442)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:25 AM
Author: submissive odious coldplay fan dog poop

Agreed. The EO is blatantly illegal and there’s a class that can be sufficiently well-defined. This one isn’t too hard to get through that shitty scotus opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060092)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:28 AM
Author: Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry

So do they just go back to calling for district judge impeachments or what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060110)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:43 AM
Author: metal alcoholic resort really tough guy

Of course not. Cons will address the merits this time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060159)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 12:51 PM
Author: Low-t International Law Enforcement Agency National Security Agency

no we'll just keep deporting illegals you retarded jewish pedophile

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060518)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry

except Trump isn’t deporting more people than Biden or Obama, he’s just being racist about it when he does it. But THAT is what you voted for, not an increase in overall deportation numbers, so you should be happy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060713)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:53 PM
Author: Low-t International Law Enforcement Agency National Security Agency

how is Trump being racist about it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060931)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:47 AM
Author: judgmental contagious point boistinker

180 then we'll get the SC to weigh in on that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060173)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 10:42 AM
Author: Magenta fragrant alpha

(pegging mfe)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060157)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:04 PM
Author: trip self-absorbed locus

It's kind of funny that the birthright EO was like the WORST vehicle to get a good (administration-favoring) ruling on universal injunctions.

The problems with universal injunctions are:

(1) non-reciprocity (different plaintiffs can keep suing and losing, but if the US loses once, it's bound) -- the US lost every single one of these suits below;

(2) forum shopping, which compounds the problem of point #1 -- most of these suits were stuck being filed in border states;

(3) the availability of a nationally binding rule from scotus (obviating the need for a nationally binding injunction at the district court level) -- because the US always lost, it just didn't take up the case on appeal, so no scotus case law will ever get created if the US just knows that said case law will inevitably be bad (as would be the case with a policy that's flagrantly unconstitutional): this was literally true of the instant case, where the US lost on everything below, but elected to only seek cert on the nationwide-injunction question, and not the merits of the EO;

(4) the availability of at least Circuit-binding rules from the COAs -- SG showed up at OA and surprised everyone by saying for the first time "yeah we usually respect circuit court precedent within that circuit, but that's a discretionary policy and we don't always follow it" (obviously the guy has something specific in mind, because that's a real inconvenient time to soften this policy);

(5) "a single district judge overruling the potus" -- I think this (meaning the merits of the EO) turned out to be like a 17-0 vote of different district and circuit judges (20-0 if you count the scotus dissenters, who were not shy about expressing their thoughts on the merits).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060796)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:08 PM
Author: Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry

Thomas and Alito will still find some bs way to deviate from their textualist/originalist schtick to rule in Trump’s favor, but yeah on the merits I expect Trump will lose 7-2 or 6-3 with Gorsuch possibly joining

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060814)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 2:13 PM
Author: trip self-absorbed locus

My big hope is that it opens the judicial overton window to at least CONGRESS being able to narrow its own "jurisdiction thereof" (the 14th Am. term).

My understanding is that even that position was a minority view in the pre-2015 scholarship -- which, btw, can we all agree is the only scholarship that can be trusted on this shit, as any lib law professor writing on this issue in 2019 might as well be delivering a crying screed on MSNBC -- but it looks good af in comparison.

If scotus gives us that, at least senate dems will know that if they ever pull the trigger and eliminate the filibuster then they'll need to squeeze every last bit of hard work out of their housekeepers and nannies in the next 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060827)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:44 PM
Author: Outnumbered onyx corn cake



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062241)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 3:13 PM
Author: metal alcoholic resort really tough guy

What legal argument do you think they'll make?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49060992)



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Date: June 30th, 2025 11:43 PM
Author: trip self-absorbed locus

Case is moot b/c they've all been renditioned to a salvadorian concentration camp by now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49062238)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 10:19 AM
Author: Pea-brained fishy range dingle berry

Cons?

https://x.com/newswire_us/status/1943312418022588657?s=46

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744570&forum_id=2#49089631)