i really want to get a tesla now.
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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.
Same. The FSD feature is really nice if you live somewhere with terrible traffic.
What's stopping me is that charging infrastructure currently sucks. I've rented EVs and it's always a pain in the ass.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752946) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:14 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.
Stopping for 1 hour every 280 miles seems excesssive tbh.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752969) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
It was intolerable. That was the last straw for me and made me trade it in
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753007) |
Date: March 16th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
Just be aware that they depreciate in value faster than laptop computers, so probably better to lease than buy
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752958) |
Date: March 16th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
Sold mine after 7 months. The range issue truly is unbearable.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752961) |
Date: March 16th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
i think they're ugly tbh
i actually appreciate the aesthetic of the cybertruck but it's clearly built like shit
making "everything computer" will make them last just as long as computers last. a good car with an analog dashboard could last you decades (though idk if anything built today really could anymore).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753015) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
https://x.com/DanielJMath1/status/1900485972871008697
https://x.com/matttttt187/status/1821012894214979748
i respect musk for making tesla work but his production instincts are chinese, not german: work really hard to produce something that functions and looks good on the surface, and get it to consumers ASAP. do not make sacrifices for craftsmanship as long as people will still buy it, and deal with the consequences later. in fairness that's how he was able to produce the model 3, no other automaker with production standards and layers of QC bureaucracy would ever put something like that out and it's why tesla smoked the competition on EVs.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753092) |
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Date: March 16th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753097) |
Date: March 17th, 2025 9:44 AM Author: 718-662-5970
Im looking at them right now
Theres a used 2024 3 "performance model" or whatever that is pretty well priced with about 6k miles. Im guessing a lib traded it back in to protest nazis
what I dont know is how much of a pain in the ass it would be to have an electrician set up the home charger etc
thots?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754684) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:48 AM Author: michael doodikoff
yeah how much does it cost to set up a home charger?
I know you can use a regular wall charger but it takes forever apparently
How much is the 3 you saw?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754699) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
depends. for most people it'll cost $5k+ due to needing a new electrical panel, meter, and wiring for a high-amperage line to the charger
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755013) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
getting a new 200A panel installed alone (if your panel is a typical 60A or 100A panel) is $2,500 to $5,000. Now include the new meter/service line ($250 to $800), the new wiring from the panel to the charger ($300 to $1000 depending on the length and difficulty), the charger itself ($100 to $600), repairing any holes that have to be made in your walls to pass the wires through, and the cost of associated permits.
https://breyelectric.com/what-does-it-cost-to-install-new-electrical-panels-in-2024/
https://cartroubleshooters.com/how-much-to-install-tesla-charger-in-house/
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755175) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
I have rewired extensive parts of my own house myself. You are fucking retarded if you think you can just add a line for a 32A to 48A charger to a 60A panel (which is pretty common in older houses) and expect it to work just fine. Even on a 100A panel you're going to be straining things...e.g., good luck running the charger and more than 2 of the following at the same time: electric dryer, electric heater, microwave, dishwasher.
Hell, on the Tesla website itself it says you need a 40A to 60A circuit breaker *just for the charger*. That doesn't leave you much wiggle room for 15A circuits for normal household appliances on either a 60A panel or a 100A panel.
https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/gen-2-wall-connector
I keep citing sources, you just keep calling me names.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755223) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:43 PM Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)
who the fuck has a 60 amp panel? do you live in a shed?
100 amp is the smallest you'll see in residential applications these days. level two charging requires 16-40amps. most homes will have that amount available on their existing panel, and the installation is simply adding a new breaker and running the line.
worst case scenario if someone's panel is already maxed out would be adding a subpanel, which would add maybe $500 in cost. if you don't need that, the labor and materials should be around $500 or less to just run a line + the charger.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755257) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
60A was standard throughout the 50's and into the 60's. Lots of people live in houses that old. Have you ever been to prole America or the Rust Belt at all? 1950s houses are not uncommon.
Even with 100A, you won't have much left over after you put in the 40A or 60A breaker for the charger.
https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/gen-2-wall-connector
"worst case scenario if someone's panel is already maxed out would be adding a subpanel"
lol you don't know jack shit. this is a good way to trip the main breaker 15 times a day.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755271) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:58 PM Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)
most of them have been upgraded as people have begun using electricity more since the 1950s you duplicitous lunatic.
https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-does-an-ev-home-charger-cost
"In addition to the charger, EV owners must budget for labor and installation costs. Qualified electricians typically charge between $100 and $350 in labor for a standard installation procedure."
most people don't need 40+ amps in the first place. in fact the standard model 3 can only go up to 32a and they top off at 48a. level 2 charging begins at 16a which gets you 15m/hr on a model 3, which is enough for most people who drive less than 100m a day.
i had a 48a charger installed and it "cost" me $250 + the charger, and i put "cost" in quotes because that was reimbursed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755323) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
you are the duplicitous lunatic here. when i bought my house it literally had a 60A panel still there which i had replaced. i can post a picture if you'll stfu about it. house i grew up in had a 60A panel too. again, do you know any proles at all? they haven't painted their houses since 1975 but you expect them to have gotten a $5000 panel upgrade? but again, you're getting hung up on that when even with a 100A panel it's a strain to add a 40A breaker (for the 32A charger) or a 60A breaker (for the 48A charger).
Is this guy MDS too?
https://cartroubleshooters.com/how-much-to-install-tesla-charger-in-house/
Cost Range: Installing a Tesla charger at home typically costs between $1,200 and $2,400, influenced by various factors.
Charger Types: The Tesla Wall Connector, priced around $500, is ideal for fast charging, while the Mobile Connector is a cost-effective alternative at about $200.
Electrical Upgrades: Upgrades to the electrical panel and wiring can range from $1,000 to $5,000, significantly impacting the total installation cost.
Labor Expenses: Hiring a licensed electrician incurs labor costs between $100 and $600, depending on the project’s complexity and location.
Permit Fees: Installation often requires permits and inspections, adding $50 to $200 to your overall budget.
Incentives and Rebates: Research local incentives and tax rebates to potentially offset installation costs for energy-efficient upgrades.
Wall Connector: The Tesla Wall Connector is the most common choice for home installations. It costs about $500.
Panel Upgrades: If your electrical panel lacks capacity, you might need an upgrade. This can range from $1,000 to $3,000, depending on your local electrical costs and the panel’s condition.
Wiring: If your existing wiring isn’t up to code or capable of handling the load, new wiring may be necessary. Expect additional costs between $500 and $2,000 based on the distance to the panel and installation complexity.
Labor Costs
Electrician Fees: Hiring a licensed electrician often costs between $50 and $150 per hour. Installation jobs typically require 2 to 4 hours, amounting to $100 to $600 in total labor costs.
Permitting and Inspection: You must secure permits for installation in many areas. These costs vary widely but typically range from $50 to $200.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755348)
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:10 PM Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)
no one living in a home with a 60a breaker should be buying a tesla. you're talking about trailer park proles. they don't even put 60a in new residential homes these days. most people are going to have space on the electrical panel.
https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/wn63oa/how_much_did_it_cost_you_to_install_a_level_2/
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Lyriq Sport 3 AWD 47 points 2 years ago
$750 for the chargepoint flex and $400 for the electrician to hardwire it with a 60 amp breaker. My breaker box was on the outside of the garage right where I wanted to mount the EVSE on the inside of the garage so it was a short run. Also a pretty new house so plenty of juice available.
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23 points 2 years ago
$650 for the electrician to install the 240v plug in my garage (2 feet from my breaker box) that my juicebox plugs into. 2 months ago- Seattle suburbs.
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6 points 2 years ago
$350 to install a NEMA 6/50 $70 Nema 6/50 (industrial grade) $750 for ChargePoint
I recommend to invest in an industrial grade Outlet I went for the 6/50 since it's considerable cheaper than the 14/50
the only ones higher than this is edge cases like trenching a line away from the home or upgrading a panel. this isn't something most consumers will have to deal with.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755367) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
i never said anything about 60A new houses, in fact i doubt 60A even meets the latest version National Electrical Code for new installations. but millions of people live in old houses, and millions of those have 60A or 80A panels. not just trailer park trash. my house cost $650k in 2018 and had a 60A panel. historic neighborhood so the houses are old. two neighbors with identical houses have teslas, and i owned one for less than a year myself.
anyway you still run up against the same constraints with 100A panels pretty quickly if your appliances and heating are mostly electric.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755376) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
my house is 2,000 sq ft and they installed a 60A panel in 1959 (the date and electrician's phone number were still on the panel). it's not uncommon in houses with installations from that era....most of the houses i checked out had either 60A or 80A panels. house inspector didn't bat an eye at the panel, the red flags he was was concerned about were knob-and-tube wiring or a fuse box. apparently lots of people don't feel the need to upgrade them because i kept running into them when house hunting in this area.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755435) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
You happened to already have a 200A panel, congrats. Or you're using some pussy ass slow charger, not the gen 2 wall connector. More likely the latter, because you're not mentioning anything about getting a new breaker installed.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755293) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
doodikoff was implying in his question that he was asking for the cost of a fast charger, not the "regular wall charger" "that takes forever apparently."
glad it works for you though.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755305)
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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
a 220V 20A line is only about 33% faster than charging at 15A
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755325) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
pretty rude tbh
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754698) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:56 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
nice
what's your shirt and pants size btw? blue stripes ok with you? any gold fillings or implants? please respond at earliest convenience, thank
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754737) |
Date: March 17th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Superchargers charge quickly so it isn't the end of the world. You also save time by just charging at home whenever you're not on a roadtrip. Also, a lot of high end hotels now have EV chargers, so you'll wake up with your car fully charged and ready to go.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754946) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
What "computer shit" do you imagine prevents them from being usable now?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755489) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Not an economics masterman I see.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755496) |
Date: March 17th, 2025 1:00 PM Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
Without a national charging network, its retarded.
I live in condos and move around a lot (renter) so a EV that I plug in at home isn't a real option.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755329) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
its state and local. its reimbursed by the feds. the feds are not picking where they go.
very few got built because its a slow state process. that doesn't mean they wont get built. less than $100m of the $5b has been spent so far.
we need evs to be practical for the country. not for UMCs who have 2 cars in a big city
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48756212) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
"that's why hertz using teslas as rentals was so fucking stupid."
I always rent from National but they have EVs sometimes and I always get them. Chargers are pretty much everywhere. My office building has chargers, for example. A bunch of hotels do too. At least national will let you return it uncharged without charging extra. And a BMW i4 xDrive40 is faster than the overwhelming majority of the other rental alternatives by a significant margin.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755559) |
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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
Huh? The Supercharger network is a national charging network.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755538) |
Date: March 17th, 2025 4:39 PM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat
don't you have to buy an $8.99 monthly subscription for every individual "feature"
no way am I paying a monthly fee to my car company for the right to listen to fm radio
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48756229) |
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