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i really want to get a tesla now.

only thing is the range issue bc we occasionally have to dri...
internet g0y
  03/16/25
Same. The FSD feature is really nice if you live somewhere w...
.....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.
  03/16/25
i take a lot of road trips and it's been fine. net time savi...
Cumbutt
  03/16/25
Stopping for 1 hour every 280 miles seems excesssive tbh.
.....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.
  03/16/25
It was intolerable. That was the last straw for me and made ...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/16/25
that's about once every 3-4 hours. yeah more than i would ot...
Cumbutt
  03/16/25
faggeratttt, if your tesla gets vandalized, i hope you kill ...
sealclubber
  03/17/25
Literally all you have to do is wear a mask and whoopsie, pe...
neurotic comptroller
  03/17/25
so you are telling faggeraatttt to wear a mask when he kills...
sealclubber
  03/17/25
He'll never know the identity of the person who did it. ;)
neurotic comptroller
  03/17/25
i'd vincent vega out if i caught some 120lb shitlib keying m...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
what if it's EPAH in a ski mask, IPA tits pulsating with rag...
Dr? Michael Greger
  03/17/25
epah looks like he might be able to kick my ass so i'd proba...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
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internet g0y
  03/17/25
Just be aware that they depreciate in value faster than lapt...
,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.
  03/16/25
Sold mine after 7 months. The range issue truly is unbearabl...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/16/25
i wish elon would break down and make a hybrid. but obviousl...
peeface
  03/16/25
i think they're ugly tbh i actually appreciate the aesthe...
.,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
  03/16/25
How are they clearly built like shit?
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https://x.com/DanielJMath1/status/1900485972871008697 htt...
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Faggottini
  03/17/25
Cybertruck sales have literally been halted because they are...
Jonald J. Trump
  03/17/25
Im looking at them right now Theres a used 2024 3 "p...
718-662-5970
  03/17/25
it's just like installing a new electrical outlet anywhere. ...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
yeah how much does it cost to set up a home charger? I k...
michael doodikoff
  03/17/25
a couple hundred bucks.
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
40k which seems expensive for used, but it has the sport eng...
718-662-5970
  03/17/25
depends. for most people it'll cost $5k+ due to needing a ne...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
lol @ this MDS disinformation pumo
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
getting a new 200A panel installed alone (if your panel is a...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
are you a fruitcake that doesn't know how residential electr...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
I have rewired extensive parts of my own house myself. You ...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
who the fuck has a 60 amp panel? do you live in a shed? 1...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
60A was standard throughout the 50's and into the 60's. Lot...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
most of them have been upgraded as people have begun using e...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
you are the duplicitous lunatic here. when i bought my hous...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
no one living in a home with a 60a breaker should be buying ...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
i never said anything about 60A new houses, in fact i doubt ...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
most people have space on their panel as any thread you find...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
my house is 2,000 sq ft and they installed a 60A panel in 19...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
you experience is very uncommon. again, you can find hundred...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
I had a 220v outlet installed for $350. My tesla charges jus...
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  03/17/25
You happened to already have a 200A panel, congrats. Or you'...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
I use the tesla mobile charger which gives me a full charge ...
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  03/17/25
doodikoff was implying in his question that he was asking fo...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
I bet he would be just fine with my setup, which is "fa...
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  03/17/25
a 220V 20A line is only about 33% faster than charging at 15...
,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,
  03/17/25
Cool, I hope it gets destroyed. Perhaps it will.
neurotic comptroller
  03/17/25
pretty rude tbh
.,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
  03/17/25
The crazy thing is that it's 100% justified.
neurotic comptroller
  03/17/25
nice what's your shirt and pants size btw? blue stripes o...
.,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,
  03/17/25
Superchargers charge quickly so it isn't the end of the worl...
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  03/17/25
i would buy one in like fifteen years when the computer shit...
Prolemobiler
  03/17/25
What "computer shit" do you imagine prevents them ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  03/17/25
I looked and haven't seen any price drops.
gibberish (?)
  03/17/25
If they drop the price, the bottom falls out underneath them...
neurotic comptroller
  03/17/25
I was looking at used ones too.
gibberish (?)
  03/17/25
Not an economics masterman I see.
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  03/17/25
As long as they keep the price stable, they hope people won'...
neurotic comptroller
  03/17/25
with a bumper sticker saying "I bought this AFTER what ...
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  03/17/25
Without a national charging network, its retarded. I live...
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
yeah they're definitely not worth it if you can't charge at ...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
tsla had a glut of cars so they did amazing 2 year leases, l...
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
if trump keeps ev incentives going i'm sure he'll do it quie...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/16/trump-war-on-biden-climate-p...
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
right, i mentioned the shit talk he's done on ev shit. remai...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
"Trump administration’s attempts to freeze EV cha...
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
i think that's regarding public ev charging and the feds hav...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
it was $5b to build out stations, so that is meaningful
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
it's the federal government. very few got built for that. an...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
its state and local. its reimbursed by the feds. the feds ar...
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
why? ices are preferrable in are country for people travelin...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
Awesome. My daughter starts driving in a year. I want to pic...
gibberish (?)
  03/17/25
they're total pieces of shit and not safe at all for new dri...
Jonald J. Trump
  03/17/25
tsla self driving is safer than a woman driving.
Trump is the first woman President (TT6)
  03/17/25
yeah especially if non-white woman
\'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"
  03/17/25
"that's why hertz using teslas as rentals was so fuckin...
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  03/17/25
i said it was a bad idea in response to tt6 saying he couldn...
Cumbutt
  03/17/25
Huh? The Supercharger network is a national charging networ...
.,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.
  03/17/25
not sure i'd want to pay $45K for a golfcart that would cost...
tony pizza
  03/17/25
don't you have to buy an $8.99 monthly subscription for ever...
ceci n'est pas un avocat
  03/17/25


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Date: March 16th, 2025 3:15 PM
Author: internet g0y

only thing is the range issue bc we occasionally have to drive long distances several times a year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752836)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:02 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.


Same. The FSD feature is really nice if you live somewhere with terrible traffic.

What's stopping me is that charging infrastructure currently sucks. I've rented EVs and it's always a pain in the ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752946)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:07 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

i take a lot of road trips and it's been fine. net time savings strongly outweigh stops on a road trip and they occur at about the rate you'd want to stop for a break anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752954)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:14 PM
Author: .....,,,,,...,,,,,..,.,,,,,.,,.


Stopping for 1 hour every 280 miles seems excesssive tbh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752969)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:28 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


It was intolerable. That was the last straw for me and made me trade it in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753007)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:33 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

that's about once every 3-4 hours. yeah more than i would otherwise sometimes but for me it's strongly outweighed by never stopping for gas any other time.

im not some ev advocate. in fact i only got it because i needed a car during the car shortage and my states ev incentives are good. i was worried about that shit on long trips but after a few years and many road trips i don't miss having a ICE at all. no gas stops, no oil changes, etc. in exchange a few times i year i have to stop a couple times at a rest stop i might not have otherwise done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753024)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: sealclubber

faggeratttt, if your tesla gets vandalized, i hope you kill the motherfucker and don't get charged. if you are charged, i hope you get acquitted in 3 minutes after a speedy trial.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755317)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: neurotic comptroller

Literally all you have to do is wear a mask and whoopsie, perp walks! Enjoy your broken Tesla, try not to support Nazis in the future

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755324)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: sealclubber

so you are telling faggeraatttt to wear a mask when he kills the scum vandal?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755328)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:11 PM
Author: neurotic comptroller

He'll never know the identity of the person who did it. ;)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755371)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:02 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

i'd vincent vega out if i caught some 120lb shitlib keying my car

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755333)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: Dr? Michael Greger (🧐)

what if it's EPAH in a ski mask, IPA tits pulsating with rage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755355)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:14 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

epah looks like he might be able to kick my ass so i'd probably just call the cops like a pussy in that situation. but all the men i've seen caught for vandalism are exactly what you'd expect an MDS man to look like.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoYOpO0aGNU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755380)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:36 AM
Author: internet g0y



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754665)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:09 PM
Author: ,.,.,.,.,,.,..,:,,:,,.,:::,.,,.,:.,,.:.,:.,:.::,.


Just be aware that they depreciate in value faster than laptop computers, so probably better to lease than buy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752958)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:10 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


Sold mine after 7 months. The range issue truly is unbearable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48752961)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:56 PM
Author: peeface

i wish elon would break down and make a hybrid. but obviously will never happen.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753073)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:31 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,


i think they're ugly tbh

i actually appreciate the aesthetic of the cybertruck but it's clearly built like shit

making "everything computer" will make them last just as long as computers last. a good car with an analog dashboard could last you decades (though idk if anything built today really could anymore).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753015)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 4:53 PM
Author: ....;;;;;;.;;.;.;.;;.;..;;;......;.;;.;.;.;;;;..


How are they clearly built like shit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753068)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 5:07 PM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,


https://x.com/DanielJMath1/status/1900485972871008697

https://x.com/matttttt187/status/1821012894214979748

i respect musk for making tesla work but his production instincts are chinese, not german: work really hard to produce something that functions and looks good on the surface, and get it to consumers ASAP. do not make sacrifices for craftsmanship as long as people will still buy it, and deal with the consequences later. in fairness that's how he was able to produce the model 3, no other automaker with production standards and layers of QC bureaucracy would ever put something like that out and it's why tesla smoked the competition on EVs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753092)



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Date: March 16th, 2025 5:10 PM
Author: .,..,,.,.,.,.,.,..,.,.,..,..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48753097)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:32 PM
Author: Faggottini



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755207)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:55 PM
Author: Jonald J. Trump

Cybertruck sales have literally been halted because they are held together by glue and fall apart as you're driving them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755311)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:44 AM
Author: 718-662-5970

Im looking at them right now

Theres a used 2024 3 "performance model" or whatever that is pretty well priced with about 6k miles. Im guessing a lib traded it back in to protest nazis

what I dont know is how much of a pain in the ass it would be to have an electrician set up the home charger etc

thots?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754684)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

it's just like installing a new electrical outlet anywhere. very simple and cheap.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754695)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:48 AM
Author: michael doodikoff

yeah how much does it cost to set up a home charger?

I know you can use a regular wall charger but it takes forever apparently

How much is the 3 you saw?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754699)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

a couple hundred bucks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754705)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:50 AM
Author: 718-662-5970

40k which seems expensive for used, but it has the sport engine, the nice tires and the "premium" interior, idk

the performance engine may be a mistake actually, bc its not "long range" but ive read the difference is really like 10-15 miles overall

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754708)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 11:50 AM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


depends. for most people it'll cost $5k+ due to needing a new electrical panel, meter, and wiring for a high-amperage line to the charger

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755013)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:11 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

lol @ this MDS disinformation pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755072)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:27 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


getting a new 200A panel installed alone (if your panel is a typical 60A or 100A panel) is $2,500 to $5,000. Now include the new meter/service line ($250 to $800), the new wiring from the panel to the charger ($300 to $1000 depending on the length and difficulty), the charger itself ($100 to $600), repairing any holes that have to be made in your walls to pass the wires through, and the cost of associated permits.

https://breyelectric.com/what-does-it-cost-to-install-new-electrical-panels-in-2024/

https://cartroubleshooters.com/how-much-to-install-tesla-charger-in-house/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755175)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:35 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

are you a fruitcake that doesn't know how residential electric works or are you just a liar? i think it's the latter since you poast MDS shit all the time.

that is for replacing an entire panel. a charger only requires adding an additional 240v line and adding a breaker to an existing panel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755218)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:36 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


I have rewired extensive parts of my own house myself. You are fucking retarded if you think you can just add a line for a 32A to 48A charger to a 60A panel (which is pretty common in older houses) and expect it to work just fine. Even on a 100A panel you're going to be straining things...e.g., good luck running the charger and more than 2 of the following at the same time: electric dryer, electric heater, microwave, dishwasher.

Hell, on the Tesla website itself it says you need a 40A to 60A circuit breaker *just for the charger*. That doesn't leave you much wiggle room for 15A circuits for normal household appliances on either a 60A panel or a 100A panel.

https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/gen-2-wall-connector

I keep citing sources, you just keep calling me names.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755223)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:43 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

who the fuck has a 60 amp panel? do you live in a shed?

100 amp is the smallest you'll see in residential applications these days. level two charging requires 16-40amps. most homes will have that amount available on their existing panel, and the installation is simply adding a new breaker and running the line.

worst case scenario if someone's panel is already maxed out would be adding a subpanel, which would add maybe $500 in cost. if you don't need that, the labor and materials should be around $500 or less to just run a line + the charger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755257)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:46 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


60A was standard throughout the 50's and into the 60's. Lots of people live in houses that old. Have you ever been to prole America or the Rust Belt at all? 1950s houses are not uncommon.

Even with 100A, you won't have much left over after you put in the 40A or 60A breaker for the charger.

https://www.tesla.com/support/charging/gen-2-wall-connector

"worst case scenario if someone's panel is already maxed out would be adding a subpanel"

lol you don't know jack shit. this is a good way to trip the main breaker 15 times a day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755271)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:58 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

most of them have been upgraded as people have begun using electricity more since the 1950s you duplicitous lunatic.

https://www.jdpower.com/cars/shopping-guides/what-does-an-ev-home-charger-cost

"In addition to the charger, EV owners must budget for labor and installation costs. Qualified electricians typically charge between $100 and $350 in labor for a standard installation procedure."

most people don't need 40+ amps in the first place. in fact the standard model 3 can only go up to 32a and they top off at 48a. level 2 charging begins at 16a which gets you 15m/hr on a model 3, which is enough for most people who drive less than 100m a day.

i had a 48a charger installed and it "cost" me $250 + the charger, and i put "cost" in quotes because that was reimbursed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755323)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


you are the duplicitous lunatic here. when i bought my house it literally had a 60A panel still there which i had replaced. i can post a picture if you'll stfu about it. house i grew up in had a 60A panel too. again, do you know any proles at all? they haven't painted their houses since 1975 but you expect them to have gotten a $5000 panel upgrade? but again, you're getting hung up on that when even with a 100A panel it's a strain to add a 40A breaker (for the 32A charger) or a 60A breaker (for the 48A charger).

Is this guy MDS too?

https://cartroubleshooters.com/how-much-to-install-tesla-charger-in-house/

Cost Range: Installing a Tesla charger at home typically costs between $1,200 and $2,400, influenced by various factors.

Charger Types: The Tesla Wall Connector, priced around $500, is ideal for fast charging, while the Mobile Connector is a cost-effective alternative at about $200.

Electrical Upgrades: Upgrades to the electrical panel and wiring can range from $1,000 to $5,000, significantly impacting the total installation cost.

Labor Expenses: Hiring a licensed electrician incurs labor costs between $100 and $600, depending on the project’s complexity and location.

Permit Fees: Installation often requires permits and inspections, adding $50 to $200 to your overall budget.

Incentives and Rebates: Research local incentives and tax rebates to potentially offset installation costs for energy-efficient upgrades.

Wall Connector: The Tesla Wall Connector is the most common choice for home installations. It costs about $500.

Panel Upgrades: If your electrical panel lacks capacity, you might need an upgrade. This can range from $1,000 to $3,000, depending on your local electrical costs and the panel’s condition.

Wiring: If your existing wiring isn’t up to code or capable of handling the load, new wiring may be necessary. Expect additional costs between $500 and $2,000 based on the distance to the panel and installation complexity.

Labor Costs

Electrician Fees: Hiring a licensed electrician often costs between $50 and $150 per hour. Installation jobs typically require 2 to 4 hours, amounting to $100 to $600 in total labor costs.

Permitting and Inspection: You must secure permits for installation in many areas. These costs vary widely but typically range from $50 to $200.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755348)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

no one living in a home with a 60a breaker should be buying a tesla. you're talking about trailer park proles. they don't even put 60a in new residential homes these days. most people are going to have space on the electrical panel.

https://www.reddit.com/r/electricvehicles/comments/wn63oa/how_much_did_it_cost_you_to_install_a_level_2/

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Lyriq Sport 3 AWD 47 points 2 years ago

$750 for the chargepoint flex and $400 for the electrician to hardwire it with a 60 amp breaker. My breaker box was on the outside of the garage right where I wanted to mount the EVSE on the inside of the garage so it was a short run. Also a pretty new house so plenty of juice available.

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23 points 2 years ago

$650 for the electrician to install the 240v plug in my garage (2 feet from my breaker box) that my juicebox plugs into. 2 months ago- Seattle suburbs.

–]JC-YNWA

6 points 2 years ago

$350 to install a NEMA 6/50 $70 Nema 6/50 (industrial grade) $750 for ChargePoint

I recommend to invest in an industrial grade Outlet I went for the 6/50 since it's considerable cheaper than the 14/50

the only ones higher than this is edge cases like trenching a line away from the home or upgrading a panel. this isn't something most consumers will have to deal with.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755367)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


i never said anything about 60A new houses, in fact i doubt 60A even meets the latest version National Electrical Code for new installations. but millions of people live in old houses, and millions of those have 60A or 80A panels. not just trailer park trash. my house cost $650k in 2018 and had a 60A panel. historic neighborhood so the houses are old. two neighbors with identical houses have teslas, and i owned one for less than a year myself.

anyway you still run up against the same constraints with 100A panels pretty quickly if your appliances and heating are mostly electric.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755376)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:20 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

most people have space on their panel as any thread you find polling people on how much their ev charger costs has similar results to why i just poasted.

60a panels are incredibly uncommon outside of fucking 700sqft homes that have never been upgraded. if you bought an old home with a 60a panel than it should be upgraded for reasons other than an ev charger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755421)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:22 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


my house is 2,000 sq ft and they installed a 60A panel in 1959 (the date and electrician's phone number were still on the panel). it's not uncommon in houses with installations from that era....most of the houses i checked out had either 60A or 80A panels. house inspector didn't bat an eye at the panel, the red flags he was was concerned about were knob-and-tube wiring or a fuse box. apparently lots of people don't feel the need to upgrade them because i kept running into them when house hunting in this area.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755435)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:24 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

you experience is very uncommon. again, you can find hundreds of threads polling people on how much they paid to have an ev charger installed, and every one has the majority of respondents that paid in the range i said from the get-go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755443)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: ....;;;;;;.;;.;.;.;;.;..;;;......;.;;.;.;.;;;;..


I had a 220v outlet installed for $350. My tesla charges just fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755285)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:50 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


You happened to already have a 200A panel, congrats. Or you're using some pussy ass slow charger, not the gen 2 wall connector. More likely the latter, because you're not mentioning anything about getting a new breaker installed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755293)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: ....;;;;;;.;;.;.;.;;.;..;;;......;.;;.;.;.;;;;..


I use the tesla mobile charger which gives me a full charge overnight. That works out just fine for me

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755299)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:54 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


doodikoff was implying in his question that he was asking for the cost of a fast charger, not the "regular wall charger" "that takes forever apparently."

glad it works for you though.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755305)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:56 PM
Author: ....;;;;;;.;;.;.;.;;.;..;;;......;.;;.;.;.;;;;..


I bet he would be just fine with my setup, which is "fast" compared to plugging the car into a regular 110v socket. You dont need the fancy gen 2 wall charger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755315)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:59 PM
Author: ,,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,,.,,,,,,


a 220V 20A line is only about 33% faster than charging at 15A

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755325)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:45 AM
Author: neurotic comptroller

Cool, I hope it gets destroyed. Perhaps it will.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754689)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:47 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,


pretty rude tbh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754698)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:49 AM
Author: neurotic comptroller

The crazy thing is that it's 100% justified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754701)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 9:56 AM
Author: .,.,.;;,;.,..,:,,:,...,:::,...,:,.,.;.:...:.,:.::,


nice

what's your shirt and pants size btw? blue stripes ok with you? any gold fillings or implants? please respond at earliest convenience, thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754737)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 11:31 AM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Superchargers charge quickly so it isn't the end of the world. You also save time by just charging at home whenever you're not on a roadtrip. Also, a lot of high end hotels now have EV chargers, so you'll wake up with your car fully charged and ready to go.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48754946)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:28 PM
Author: Prolemobiler

i would buy one in like fifteen years when the computer shit is all worked out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755177)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


What "computer shit" do you imagine prevents them from being usable now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755489)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:30 PM
Author: gibberish (?)

I looked and haven't seen any price drops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755190)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:31 PM
Author: neurotic comptroller

If they drop the price, the bottom falls out underneath them even faster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755200)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:38 PM
Author: gibberish (?)

I was looking at used ones too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755228)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:36 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Not an economics masterman I see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755496)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: neurotic comptroller

As long as they keep the price stable, they hope people won't realize their house of cards is a wee short of 52.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755554)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 12:52 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

with a bumper sticker saying "I bought this AFTER what Elon did"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755297)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:00 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

Without a national charging network, its retarded.

I live in condos and move around a lot (renter) so a EV that I plug in at home isn't a real option.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755329)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:01 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

yeah they're definitely not worth it if you can't charge at home imo. that's why hertz using teslas as rentals was so fucking stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755330)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:04 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

tsla had a glut of cars so they did amazing 2 year leases, like $300/month. in 2 years the used market will flood with those and EV used prices are already under tons of pressure.

i dont get why musk isnt getting trump on board with a massive EV charger buildout. it would give us more oil to sell abroad for example

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755341)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:06 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

if trump keeps ev incentives going i'm sure he'll do it quietly to avoid any public conflict of interest with him and musk + i think he's talked shit on libs ev incentive stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755350)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:07 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/03/16/trump-war-on-biden-climate-policy-creates-new-form-of-ev-range-anxiety.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755357)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:12 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

right, i mentioned the shit talk he's done on ev shit. remains to be seen if he follows through on it and to what degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755375)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

"Trump administration’s attempts to freeze EV charging funds"

thats action. states are already freezing/stopping building out EV chargers under the plan because they worry Trump might win and actually block the reimbursemets to the states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755487)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:38 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

i think that's regarding public ev charging and the feds have done an awful job with that so i don't think that's very meaningful. the bigger things are the ev purchase tax credits, which haven't been touched yet afaik.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755510)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:40 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

it was $5b to build out stations, so that is meaningful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755521)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:45 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

it's the federal government. very few got built for that. and tesla already has a private network that is sufficient for anyone that lives in area where an ev would be practical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755552)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 4:34 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

its state and local. its reimbursed by the feds. the feds are not picking where they go.

very few got built because its a slow state process. that doesn't mean they wont get built. less than $100m of the $5b has been spent so far.

we need evs to be practical for the country. not for UMCs who have 2 cars in a big city

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48756212)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 4:36 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

why? ices are preferrable in are country for people traveling long distances. i don't think the government has to build an ev infrastructure there as a public service.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48756221)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:09 PM
Author: gibberish (?)

Awesome. My daughter starts driving in a year. I want to pick one up for the kids car. Jfc I'm old.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755363)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:10 PM
Author: Jonald J. Trump

they're total pieces of shit and not safe at all for new drivers. good luck with that bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755369)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:35 PM
Author: Trump is the first woman President (TT6)

tsla self driving is safer than a woman driving.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755493)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 2:33 PM
Author: \'\'\"\"\'\'\'\"

yeah especially if non-white woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755758)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:46 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


"that's why hertz using teslas as rentals was so fucking stupid."

I always rent from National but they have EVs sometimes and I always get them. Chargers are pretty much everywhere. My office building has chargers, for example. A bunch of hotels do too. At least national will let you return it uncharged without charging extra. And a BMW i4 xDrive40 is faster than the overwhelming majority of the other rental alternatives by a significant margin.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755559)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:53 PM
Author: Cumbutt (gunneratttt)

i said it was a bad idea in response to tt6 saying he couldn't charge at home. if you can charge at home or work then renting one is a good idea. but ime this is not as common as you're making it out to be. and it's a huge question mark if you're traveling. some hotels chargers are always in fucking use or broken. same with workplaces. not only would you have to know if you hotel/work had a charger, but also whether they're readily available.

any other sort of charging is a pain in the ass. obviously this assumes you'll need to charge yourself and you'd be going over the cars battery range. if that's not the case then it's a good idea too, but it goes without saying that if you only need to use it for a couple hundred miles and don't need to recharge it, then charging availability isn't an issue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755598)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:43 PM
Author: .,.,...,..,.,.,:,,:,.,.,:::,...,:,...:..:.,:.::,.


Huh? The Supercharger network is a national charging network.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755538)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 1:56 PM
Author: tony pizza

not sure i'd want to pay $45K for a golfcart that would cost $12K in china.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48755607)



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Date: March 17th, 2025 4:39 PM
Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat

don't you have to buy an $8.99 monthly subscription for every individual "feature"

no way am I paying a monthly fee to my car company for the right to listen to fm radio

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695012&forum_id=2#48756229)