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Rate this e-mail from my gardener trying to charge me $10k for $5k worth of work
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:34 AM Author: mischievous razzle kitty cat rigpig I am really, really sorry about this, but I have been as flexible and forgiving as a person can be expected to be, and I haven't heard from you in over a month now.
Throughout last year, despite being told that I had "free license", I was more than communicative with regard to costs, getting approval before purchasing more expensive plant material, etc.
To-date you've paid a total of $4000 of a total of $9640.64 owed for landscape improvement services, Fence repair/painting, vegetable garden improvements, powerwashing, and landscape/garden maintenance.
If the remaining $5640.64 is not paid in full in 30 days (June 23, 2024), I'll be forced to file suit for the balance as well as interest accrued on the material purchased on credit.
Happy to send a digital invoice so you can pay by card.
If I do not receive a response to this email, I will send a hard copy via certified mail.
Thank you.
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:35 AM Author: Bonkers chest-beating idiot mood #powergoyproblems (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685919) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:43 AM Author: talented bull headed generalized bond powergoy as hell. I expected to see dbg as the OP, not someone who gives "free license" to someone to repair fences and veggie gardens lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685938) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:10 PM Author: copper center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685955) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:36 AM Author: Fuchsia Beady-eyed Hominid Need more details surrounding the dispute (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685921) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:40 AM Author: mischievous razzle kitty cat rigpig He basically did not invoice me all of last summer and then hits me with a $10k bill for a bunch of shit I agreed to but he's clearly milking. The itemization on his invoice reflects that he is milking it. We also have no contract or written agreement in place.
He also sent a follow-up e-mail to that invoice indicating "I was just going to email you to tell you not to pay that, I realized there are a few things I double charged you for". He never sent an updated invoice reflecting these double charges.
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:42 AM Author: Fuchsia Beady-eyed Hominid It’s good to nip these things in the bud (you can ask your gardener to explain this phrase) before they spiral out of control from being unsupervised for months on end (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685935) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:43 AM Author: mischievous razzle kitty cat rigpig Well I think he thinks I'm one of these people who doesn't care how much something costs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685937) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:39 AM Author: Fiercely-loyal Laser Beams what makes you think your number is correct and his isn't? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685927) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:40 AM Author: olive bipolar stage also why the fuck is he paying someone all this money to garden in the first place? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685930) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:42 AM Author: mischievous razzle kitty cat rigpig He built vegetable garden beds, replaced mulch, and other stuff I had no time to do last summer and wife was very pregnant so we needed help with the garden.
He also helped with power washing my house, guest house, garage and painting/sanding/washing a large wooden fence. |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: racy set Just pay the man. You could offer him $3500 to fuck off, but if you approved the work just pay the bill bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688477) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 1:01 PM Author: galvanic gay tank nursing home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688511) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 4:31 PM Author: Titillating Locus Really Tough Guy sounds like $10k worth of work tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698444) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: trip dark hairy legs At least (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698614) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:40 AM Author: cheese-eating unholy lay jew (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685932) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:41 AM Author: cheese-eating unholy lay jew did you have a contract stating scope of work and cost? if there were change orders, were they approved in writing? something is off about the op. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685933) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:44 AM Author: mischievous razzle kitty cat rigpig No contract stating scope of work. He sent a proposal which I never responded to and everything subsequent to that was communicated verbally. I did not provide him with "free license", verbally or otherwise, and asked him to send monthly invoices, which he did not. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685940) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:00 PM Author: jet histrionic trailer park if he performed under the proposal and you accepted his services under the proposal, and the proposal reflects the larger amount, you lose IMO. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685949) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 12:01 AM Author: Rebellious mexican It's going to be a fact issue. Proposal + silence/acceptance of benefits creates a strong estoppel argument, but the contract (if one existed) isn't subject to the statute of frauds so nothing precludes OP from introducing subsequent oral discussions/modifications.
The most realistic scenario is that whatever the fuck they discussed is void for indefiniteness/absence of key terms, and the gardner can recover in quantum meruit for the fair market value of his work (which isn't whatever the fuck the gardner says). |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 12:14 AM Author: Embarrassed to the bone irradiated home gonna need an expert BIG GARDENING witness to straighten this all out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47687635) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 12:51 PM Author: brilliant trump supporter Why didn’t you respond to the proposal?
Did the proposal have a dollar amount on it and if so what was it?
Do you have your ignored requests for monthly invoices documented? |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:58 AM Author: jet histrionic trailer park send him a check for $500 that says "for all outstanding invoices/work" in the memo line. if he cashes it you win. accord and satisfaction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685947) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:51 PM Author: copper center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685995) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 12:44 PM Author: very tactful parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688479) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:55 PM Author: olive bipolar stage this is why everyone wants to murder lawyers and everyone is mostly right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47686003) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:22 PM Author: copper center lawfare is fair game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47687546) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:37 PM Author: jet histrionic trailer park (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47687574) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 12:54 PM Author: walnut station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688496) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:06 PM Author: Irate adventurous native therapy how do you plan to respond (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685950) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:07 PM Author: Wonderful antidepressant drug you sound like a scumbag tbh. you had every opportunity to pay him for the work as it was performed, or to stop the work the moment the price became too high. you are also a scumbag for not getting a contract in place and letting this prole work on your property without expecting to face this exact scenario. are you jewish btw? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685951) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 11:25 PM Author: copper center The distinguishing factor here for me is whether the "person" he defrauded is a person in the human sense or the corporate sense. If he fucked over a small business, he's a piece of shit. If he's just being shrewd with a large contracting firm, then hey, that's the cost of doing business! That's what insurance is for! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47687557) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:10 PM Author: Plum domesticated school main people Quantum meruit! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47685954) |
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Date: May 23rd, 2024 12:55 PM Author: drunken passionate heaven dog poop i think if you got the benefit of the services, you should pay even if the invoice wasn't sent on time. If the invoice is padded, that's different. Surely, you know the extent of the work he did and how much time he and his guys spent on your property. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47686009) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 4:16 AM Author: lavender excitant place of business locale You went into the deal acting like a cool rich guy, uninterested in the finer details, and casually having another man work outdoors on your property for the entire summer, waiting until the very end to pull off your mask. There's fraud on both sides (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47687820) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 5:28 PM Author: Chrome Adulterous Hall Athletic Conference (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698627) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 4:46 AM Author: multi-colored brunch brethren beat his ass (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47687833) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 2:50 PM Author: Sinister awkward senate I would def just do a Sam Hyde here and say "come kill me" and let him try to figure out the fact that he can try to get a lawyer, or small claims you, or whatever, but good luck ever collecting.
Get on a payment plan with some debt collector and then keep readjusting it and never actually pay more than like $5 while your gardener gets to stress over it. |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 9:25 PM Author: lavender excitant place of business locale (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47689556) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 2:51 PM Author: Indecent aromatic abode Pay the man, you odious kike. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688655) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 2:59 PM Author: walnut station (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688679) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 3:39 PM Author: Plum domesticated school main people Anyone who likes Tim Dillon is obviously extremely Jewish. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688818) |
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Date: May 24th, 2024 4:06 PM Author: walnut station 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47688934) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 4:34 PM Author: Frozen Stock Car If this is in California and he’s not licensed you don’t have to pay one penny, no recourse according to the B&P code. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698453) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 5:25 PM Author: Thriller bawdyhouse no one lives in californina you dipshit. no one has ever even convinced me that it actually exists. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698617) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 5:29 PM Author: Chrome Adulterous Hall Athletic Conference That's for contracting work iirc. Rather doubt it includes landscaping. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698629) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 5:30 PM Author: Chrome Adulterous Hall Athletic Conference This is small claims jurisdiction. Ever been to small claims court? The guy will tell this to the judge, you'll say "yeah but that's too much" and the judge will say "just pay him, asshole. Judgment for plaintiff, plus court costs." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698631) |
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Date: May 28th, 2024 5:34 PM Author: hilarious vibrant becky alpha who has ever been small claims court (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5531827&forum_id=2#47698639) |