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Question about European feudalism.

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have m...
Flesh therapy
  06/14/13
just walk outside bro
Smoky razzle volcanic crater
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(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)
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Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the la...
Bull Headed Duck-like Theater Scourge Upon The Earth
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Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitar...
Thriller rehab
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(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded ...
Bull Headed Duck-like Theater Scourge Upon The Earth
  05/29/25
They were better because you had different tribal clans owni...
Thriller rehab
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read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of ...
Bull Headed Duck-like Theater Scourge Upon The Earth
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Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the P...
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henna indecent meetinghouse trust fund
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what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?
Provocative Juggernaut Milk
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cq
Apoplectic dark depressive
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I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on ju...
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teen black death survivors were the original Boomers
Odious hairless base
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i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf ...
floppy milky cuckoldry trailer park
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Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as ba...
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really depended on the country, the region, and the lord re...
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Date: June 14th, 2013 10:27 AM
Author: Flesh therapy

Was this system as singularly shitty as it sounds, or have most societies historically been based on similar systems?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#23393887)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:29 AM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater

just walk outside bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969812)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 4:30 AM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater

(and yes, OP's country has a third world gini coefficient)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969813)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:24 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985020)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 5:55 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997575)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 9:14 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49064860)



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Date: July 3rd, 2025 8:14 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49070377)



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Date: July 6th, 2025 8:32 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49077411)



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Date: July 8th, 2025 10:20 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49084518)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:52 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098591)



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Date: July 14th, 2025 5:12 PM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49101058)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:43 AM
Author: Smoky razzle volcanic crater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105012)



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Date: July 20th, 2025 8:00 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49117359)



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Date: July 24th, 2025 5:37 PM
Author: nyuug (Gangnam WGWAG Playboy)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49128622)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:47 AM
Author: Bull Headed Duck-like Theater Scourge Upon The Earth

Have most large-scale agricultural civilizations over the last 5k years relegated the vast majority of their agricultural labor force /population to a state of semi-slavery enforced by an exploitative elite with a monopoly on violence?

yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969854)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:51 AM
Author: Thriller rehab

Yes, it was terrible, it was the first form of mass-egalitarianism. All the old Tribal Clans were abolished & people were turned into landless serfs, the only exceptions were the Elite Warlord Clans that got to rule as Lords/Kings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969860)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 5:55 AM
Author: Bull Headed Duck-like Theater Scourge Upon The Earth

(ignores every other form of mass-agriculture that preceded it)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969863)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 7:47 AM
Author: Thriller rehab

They were better because you had different tribal clans owning different regions, serfdom was a form of quasi-slavery, only the Kings/Lords had property rights.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48969954)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 1:37 PM
Author: Bull Headed Duck-like Theater Scourge Upon The Earth

read the history of the early hydrological civilizations of egypt, mesopotamia, the indus and the yellow river valleys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48971066)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 11:58 PM
Author: Odious hairless base

Better to be a serf under a Warrior Clique (blessed by the Priestly Clique) than a humiliated cog of the Merchant Clique imho

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065184)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 6:53 PM
Author: Flirting Headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098592)



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Date: July 13th, 2025 7:03 PM
Author: henna indecent meetinghouse trust fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49098608)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Provocative Juggernaut Milk

what part of: the peasants are revolting, don't u get?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970037)



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Date: May 29th, 2025 8:54 AM
Author: Apoplectic dark depressive

cq

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48970041)



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Date: June 3rd, 2025 9:32 PM
Author: Excitant crotch candlestick maker

I'd say that like slavery it probably depends on a lot on just where you are, so not singularly shitty just situation dependent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48985033)



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Date: July 2nd, 2025 12:06 AM
Author: Odious hairless base

teen black death survivors were the original Boomers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065206)



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Date: June 8th, 2025 6:07 PM
Author: floppy milky cuckoldry trailer park

i wish i could have sworn fealty to an employer like a serf to a feudal lord when i was younger. would have saved me a lot of pain cycling through shitty short-term jobs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#48997602)



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Date: July 1st, 2025 10:15 PM
Author: anal hyperventilating address

Serfs had tons of time off & feast days. It wasn't as bad as most people think. They didn't have running water or electricity, but neither did the rulers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49065026)



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Date: July 16th, 2025 4:01 AM
Author: Fighting Location Gay Wizard

really depended on the country, the region, and the lord

removing technology from the equation it could range from far more harmonious than what we have today to utterly hellish. the general trend towards centralization of power from the early middle ages and on and the rise of the professional state theoretically ensures a general better standard of living for a subject on average, or at the very least a set "floor" for QoL, but ends up removing a lot to do with the nuances of power relations and enduring senses of community in the process

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2281707&forum_id=2#49105022)