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Should I just become a car salesman?
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Date: May 17th, 2024 9:23 AM Author: Burgundy out-of-control senate goyim I'm sick of receiving 100+ work emails per day while jumping from client to client to put out fires and do the world's most boring work under pressure. Sick of waking up to new projects waiting in my inbox every morning to fuck my day. Sick of talking to lawyers. Sick of spending hours parsing boring ass documents that don't matter.
Seems 180 and chill as fuck to hang around with bros all day at a dealership and sell cars. Is this a CR move? |
Date: May 17th, 2024 10:03 AM Author: Nofapping brethren i actually considered this at one point, not flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669375) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 10:07 AM Author: spruce range persian i was in (not auto) sales before law school and my dad was a used car salesman.
the jig is up. it used to be a 180^180 lifestyle for degenerates. like most jobs -- it's all over now. you will be on the phone cold calling and shit. go on your local dealerships website and click "i'm interested" and see how many calls you get. now imagine being on the other end of the phone and doing it all day... for $50k a year and no respect from you clients or boss. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:21 PM Author: Burgundy out-of-control senate goyim Sounds better than law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669579) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:35 PM Author: spruce range persian nope. maybe in the 90s. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669591) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 1:07 PM Author: up-to-no-good cerebral crackhouse The sales guys are only sales guys part time. When no leads are in they write the tickets for the mechanics for the broken cars that come in. That’s how they spend 80% of their time and they earn money upselling repairs so if you come in with a door issue and they sell you new rims or a warranty they make commission on that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669644) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 1:08 PM Author: spruce range persian sounds like you're saying they are sales guys 100% of the time, 20% cars 80% service. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669654) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:27 PM Author: bateful trust fund orchestra pit avid reader of askcarsales here.
it seems relatively easy to make $100k after about a year provided you are at a reasonable volume dealership (not buick, mini) with a sensible payplan. your fellow coworkers are mostly scumbags who will lack your work ethic and stand around all day hoping a customer comes to them. that said, it's certainly not an easy gig in the early years -- you have to be cold calling, you have to create a sales process you follow, the hours required to be successful are long (10-12 hour days M-S seems par for the course), and you're dealing with laypeople who are mostly shitty ("buyers are liars" is a common expression) for any number of reasons
after 3-5 years you can viably make $200k+ with a good stream of referrals or a move into sales management or finance. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: spruce range persian no one leaves sales/finance because the money is better than management. that's one of the shitter things about it. you can never stop grinding.
all the salesman are scumbags. it's 180 when you're younger but it wears on people. think "gene the machine levine." glengarry is a very accurate flick. you are constantly battling your fellow salesman, management, and customers.
i will say that it was a good prelaw career because you learn to deal with confrontation. dealing with nearly coming to blows with an alcoholic scumbag over whether he stole your sale is far more stressful than dealing with some nebbish kike OC. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:40 PM Author: racy garrison I achieved the same abilities with my career of arguing with people online imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669602) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:42 PM Author: spruce range persian everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669609) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:45 PM Author: bateful trust fund orchestra pit people are constantly gunning for finance because the customers come to you and all you have to do is upsell product that has a relatively high rate of success (50%+). salary is better, commissions are better on back of the house product.
the guys who prefer to stay on the sales floor are established veterans who are able to dictate their hours due to a steady stream of referrals and repeat business. that's a great gig but you have to be a top salesman for at least a decade to get that level of prestige.
the hierarchy is probably as follows: gm > general sales manager > established floor salesman > finance director > sales manager > salesman |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:53 PM Author: spruce range persian you're right that finance is where it's at. far better than sales. it goes like this:
finance > used sales > new sales
finance is where they make the most money. extended warranties and financing packages. used car sales are higher profit margin and because of that they are more negotiating power. new car sales are usually just order takers. even back in the day this was the case, and with the internet it's even more so. you're just doing test drives and cold calls. everyone knows what the price is and comes in having done all their research.
managers are frequently people who flamed out of sales. they are nominally the boss but not respected by anyone expect the new sales guy. except for upper management, which usually owners. if you're a top salesman you're rarely leaving that. again, look at glengarry. is kevin spacey's character the real boss? how he was treated in that is how top guys always treat their boss. it's a macho environment. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:58 PM Author: bateful trust fund orchestra pit CR. good point about used sales being a better gig than new sales, but these days with real estate so expensive and cars lasting longer than ever it's rarer to see dealerships that are used cars only. at the franchise dealerships most of the time everyone is selling everything on the lot.
these guys made a ton of money during covid and after due to the markups and selling everything at msrp. things are bleaker now and the order takers are washing out because they aren't actual salesmen. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 1:05 PM Author: spruce range persian cr. it's very similar to mortgage brokers during the re bubble.
that's what i mean about it being a shitty gig to get into these days. there is far less opportunity for good salesman to make money. if op actually wanted to go into sales i'd suggest relationship manager at a bank. similar vibe to old school car sales and actually a lot of lawyers wind up doing it. |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:38 PM Author: Burgundy out-of-control senate goyim Sounds 180 as fuck. I'm sick of thinking and reading all day. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669598) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:41 PM Author: Primrose hissy fit parlour You’ve still got a shot at VP, Lil Marco (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669606) |
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Date: May 17th, 2024 12:42 PM Author: spruce range persian (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5529482&forum_id=2#47669611) |