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Rate US tax rates in 1959 (91% top rate)

Is this what MAGA shits mean when they idealize the 1950's? ...
spruce comical idea he suggested milk
  01/27/22
Very few people paid that rate because there were far more w...
Geriatric vibrant faggotry
  01/27/22
……champ
charcoal step-uncle's house
  01/27/22
whatever, boomer
spruce comical idea he suggested milk
  01/27/22
Better to create an incentive to create more jobs or pay mor...
soul-stirring fiercely-loyal business firm
  01/27/22
why wouldn't high earner mos just work less? why would they ...
Fear-inspiring dilemma
  01/27/22
$400,000 in 1959 would be about $4,000,000 today. That&rsquo...
soul-stirring fiercely-loyal business firm
  01/27/22
why work at all if i've already got plenty of money and govt...
Fear-inspiring dilemma
  01/27/22
Lmao do you really think somebody like Elon Musk is going to...
house-broken public bath
  01/27/22
do you think 100% top rate would disincentivize him from wor...
Fear-inspiring dilemma
  01/27/22
(guy who actually knows what he's talking about, unlike othe...
Fear-inspiring dilemma
  01/27/22
*Ghost of Joe Lewis appears and punches you in the face
startling apoplectic hominid multi-billionaire
  01/27/22
TT with the low IQ take on tax rates ftw
Big-titted telephone affirmative action
  01/27/22
that's terrible. How would Zuckerberg afford 15 vacation ho...
startled aqua voyeur
  01/27/22
*screams the blue-haired activist as the IRS buttfucks the U...
startling apoplectic hominid multi-billionaire
  01/27/22
The median income in 1955 was $3400, that person probably pa...
cordovan forum partner
  01/27/22
CR that sounds like heaven
Vermilion sneaky criminal
  01/27/22
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house-broken public bath
  01/27/22
Such a stupid low iq argument. Just look at rates and ignor...
beta plaza
  01/27/22
da deductions he lisped!! without naming any of these myster...
spruce comical idea he suggested milk
  01/27/22
im sorry we dont have 1950s era Title 26 memorized
trip mother
  01/27/22
He literally referenced the passive loss rules and at risk r...
Geriatric vibrant faggotry
  01/27/22
Correction: as Mitt pointed out we have a narrow base, at le...
Saffron wagecucks
  01/27/22
Do tell, why should any middle class American support a broa...
house-broken public bath
  01/27/22
Generally speaking, it’s better for most people to pay...
Geriatric vibrant faggotry
  01/29/22
I don't really care about the details. The end result was cl...
Motley misanthropic native puppy
  01/27/22
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Bearded locus
  01/27/22
The 90% marginal tax rate was an absolute disaster for both ...
cerise stimulating menage love of her life
  01/29/22
It sounds to me like government policies kept this dude work...
soul-stirring fiercely-loyal business firm
  01/30/22
Fuck it. Just bring back slavery.
beady-eyed brethren
  01/30/22
I’m sure the FDR/Truman postwar tax schemes are exactl...
beady-eyed brethren
  01/30/22
Finally, it is very likely that the existence of a 91 percen...
Navy hairless indirect expression
  01/30/22


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Date: January 27th, 2022 9:42 AM
Author: spruce comical idea he suggested milk

Is this what MAGA shits mean when they idealize the 1950's?

https://www.tax-brackets.org/federaltaxtable/1959

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855385)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 9:44 AM
Author: Geriatric vibrant faggotry

Very few people paid that rate because there were far more ways to take deductions and avoid actually declaring enough income to be in that bracket.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855391)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 9:47 AM
Author: charcoal step-uncle's house

……champ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855396)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 9:50 AM
Author: spruce comical idea he suggested milk

whatever, boomer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855404)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:10 AM
Author: soul-stirring fiercely-loyal business firm

Better to create an incentive to create more jobs or pay more because you can only keep $90 of every extra $1,000 you earn than the shit show we have with crap like carried interest in my humble opinion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855534)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:12 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring dilemma

why wouldn't high earner mos just work less? why would they work more to altruistically benefit randos under threat of the govt confiscating their cash if they don't?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855545)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 12:37 PM
Author: soul-stirring fiercely-loyal business firm

$400,000 in 1959 would be about $4,000,000 today. That’s a lot of income. If you have income in excess of $4m, I’d actually venture to say that you can’t just work “less.” You’re probably getting that income by either not working or by working in a way that’s not particularly scalable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43856653)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 1:27 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring dilemma

why work at all if i've already got plenty of money and govt is gonna take almost everything i make from now on?

if it's a business i'd just let it crash and burn, let them loot that lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43856953)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 5:43 PM
Author: house-broken public bath

Lmao do you really think somebody like Elon Musk is going to stop making cars or rockets because his taxes went up? Put down the Atlas Shrugged, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43858376)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 6:04 PM
Author: Fear-inspiring dilemma

do you think 100% top rate would disincentivize him from working but 91% top rate wouldn't? or do you think he'd keep working even if 100% of the wealth he earned were confiscated?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43858506)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:11 AM
Author: Fear-inspiring dilemma

(guy who actually knows what he's talking about, unlike other posters ITT)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855542)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:31 AM
Author: startling apoplectic hominid multi-billionaire

*Ghost of Joe Lewis appears and punches you in the face

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855621)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:32 AM
Author: Big-titted telephone affirmative action

TT with the low IQ take on tax rates ftw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855627)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:34 AM
Author: startled aqua voyeur

that's terrible. How would Zuckerberg afford 15 vacation homes with such rates?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855632)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 1:40 PM
Author: startling apoplectic hominid multi-billionaire

*screams the blue-haired activist as the IRS buttfucks the UMC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857025)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 10:35 AM
Author: cordovan forum partner

The median income in 1955 was $3400, that person probably payed an effective rate in the mid teens after deductions.

Also I’ll trade the tax regime for the demographics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43855636)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 2:02 PM
Author: Vermilion sneaky criminal

CR that sounds like heaven

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857161)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 5:43 PM
Author: house-broken public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43858383)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 12:45 PM
Author: beta plaza

Such a stupid low iq argument. Just look at rates and ignore deductions, at risk and loss rules! It’s apples to apples!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43856699)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 1:45 PM
Author: spruce comical idea he suggested milk

da deductions he lisped!! without naming any of these mysterious deductions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857051)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 1:46 PM
Author: trip mother

im sorry we dont have 1950s era Title 26 memorized

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857055)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 1:50 PM
Author: Geriatric vibrant faggotry

He literally referenced the passive loss rules and at risk rules. Code sections 465 and 469.

Tax reform from the 1980s on broadened the base and lowered the rates.

We used to have a narrow base and high rates. Now we have a broad base and lower rates. This is better for almost anyone other than those who used/abused tax shelters in the 1980s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857075)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 2:37 PM
Author: Saffron wagecucks

Correction: as Mitt pointed out we have a narrow base, at least for income tax, and Dems want to make it even narrower

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857369)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 5:45 PM
Author: house-broken public bath

Do tell, why should any middle class American support a broad tax base and not a narrow one? The fuck kind of reasoning is this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43858395)



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Date: January 29th, 2022 9:31 PM
Author: Geriatric vibrant faggotry

Generally speaking, it’s better for most people to pay a modest rate than for the headline rate to be high but for those who are supposed to be paying it be highly motivated to pay 50 cents on the dollar to accountants and tax lawyers to avoid it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43871622)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 2:10 PM
Author: Motley misanthropic native puppy

I don't really care about the details. The end result was clear. There just weren't many super rich people in 1950s America. There was only one billionaire back then supporting the American Jewish Committee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43857196)



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Date: January 27th, 2022 5:46 PM
Author: Bearded locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43858398)



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Date: January 29th, 2022 10:39 PM
Author: cerise stimulating menage love of her life

The 90% marginal tax rate was an absolute disaster for both the country and the people working. A classic example of how retarded it was is the case of world heavyweight champion boxer Joe Louis. He donated money to the government to help fund the WWII war effort. The government took the money, then told him he had to pay taxes on it because the donations themselves weren’t taxes. So he had to earn $100 for every $10 he had to pay in taxes.

Despite being one of the most successful, responsible, and dominant heavyweight champions ever, the government ran him into bankruptcy and he died a pauper.

https://www.mackinac.org/V1997-22

Ultimately it was easy to shield money from the 90% marginal rate, but the high earners right when the tax got imposed were fucked. Virtually no one paid the 90% rate when it was dropped.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43871899)



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Date: January 30th, 2022 8:09 AM
Author: soul-stirring fiercely-loyal business firm

It sounds to me like government policies kept this dude working and producing for his whole life instead of becoming a layabout slob.

I’d call that a win. 99% tax rates for all Americans earning more than $200,000 in AGI!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43873002)



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Date: January 30th, 2022 8:18 AM
Author: beady-eyed brethren

Fuck it. Just bring back slavery.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43873016)



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Date: January 30th, 2022 8:17 AM
Author: beady-eyed brethren

I’m sure the FDR/Truman postwar tax schemes are exactly what they have in mind to pay for CRT and do-nothing grift of today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43873014)



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Date: January 30th, 2022 8:18 AM
Author: Navy hairless indirect expression

Finally, it is very likely that the existence of a 91 percent bracket led to significant tax avoidance and lower reported income. There are many studies that show that, as marginal tax rates rise, income reported by taxpayers goes down. As a result, the existence of the 91 percent bracket did not necessarily lead to significantly higher revenue collections from the top 1 percent.

https://taxfoundation.org/taxes-on-the-rich-1950s-not-high/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5017702&forum_id=2#43873015)