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WNBA might be a better product than the NBA.
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Date: June 25th, 2025 11:44 PM Author: mountain cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49050560) |
Date: June 26th, 2025 12:58 AM Author: ataraxic it's not but there is no drama more compelling than the open discrimination of cailtin clark in the nba right now
not to say that the nba is a good product |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 7:19 AM Author: mountain cat It’s more exciting in the way college ball is. There are fewer games so each means more and the players play harder. There’s less isolation and more offensive sets so you get more passing and team play. The girls are athletic and very skilled so it doesn’t feel you’re watching children at recess anymore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49050853) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 1:18 PM Author: Trump administering Elon's ketamine suppository Lazy flame (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051524) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 1:43 PM Author: mountain cat Not flame. Inspired by a game I had on last night. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051589) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 1:47 PM Author: hank_scorpio this is all precisely the opposite of true, it looks exactly like watching a girls basketball game in 3rd grade where they mostly pull ponytails and chuck layups directly into the bottom of the rim over and over all while never jumping more than 2 inches in the air (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051599) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 2:54 PM Author: lexie hull (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051770) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:38 AM Author: ataraxic you could say there's appeal to the style of play compared to the shitshow of the nba but it's meaningless given the substandard athleticism. middle school boys also have more team play than nba offenses, doesn't mean anything.
also it's very aesthetically displeasing to see hot chicks pitted against a bunch of butch shaniquas. if the wnba fine-tuned its roster composition to look more like olympic beach volleyball and similarly updated the uniform design it would be top four pro sports league in the US by popularity. they are leaving billions on the table. |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:42 AM Author: Senior Ethics Official The problem is 90% of players are blacks and fats. Theyd be sued into oblivion. Beach volleyball - i dunno how they did i it would make a good documentary if it were honest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053275) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:52 AM Author: ataraxic start a purpose-made league a la the lingerie football league or whatever, but a little more subtle. capitalize it well. recruit the best women's college bb players. within year one it has better ratings than the wnba and it's already a more valuable league. then the virtuous cycle engages and it gets its pick of top talent but retains the license to reject bulldykes. obviously easier said than done but if a good sports entrepreneur with some cash to toss around put his head to it (maybe dana white or vince mcmahon) it'd be interesting to see what happened.
beach volleyball works out because it almost exclusively attracts white players and there's no strategic benefit to having body mass. |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:07 AM Author: mountain cat It means something precisely for the reason you stated. The current NBA formula where every possession is either an iso dunk or launching a 3 is boring. The lower level of athleticism i think can be overcome and is less noticeable now that the training and conditioning is so much higher and when women are pitted against each other. Of course, the best WNBA players would look like retarded children in an NBA game.
Agree that the league should lean into the sex appeal a bit more since there are a decent amount of good looking players and volleyball is the right analogy. |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 7:36 AM Author: Jacking off to YouTube videos about low birthrates I hope it devolves into an open race war (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49050859) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 8:42 AM Author: mountain cat the tension and jealousy is a good thing. the racial aspect is annoying to me.
in a few years the WNBA is really going to take off. We'll have a stable of established household-name young stars with CC, Angel Reese, Bueckers, Juju Watkins, Hannah Hidalgo together with some older GOAT level players like A'ja Wilson and Sabrina Ionescu.
Bump this post in 3 years. Not flame. |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:01 PM Author: sealclubber mountain cat, lol, sure wnba will never be mainstream popular until its participants are pretty good fucking luck with that |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:11 PM Author: Diamond Dallas Trump yeah, sure man..."Juju Watkins" is going to be a "household name" LMAOOO (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051803) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: mountain cat Gonna bump this in 3 years.
Date: June 26th, 2025 3:11 PM Author: Diamond Dallas Trump
yeah, sure man..."Juju Watkins" is going to be a "household name" LMAOOO
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Date: June 26th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: blow off some steam “devolves” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051773) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 8:57 AM Author: ...,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,. Why are suddenly all the rising WBA players hot as shit now?
https://www.threads.com/@thebasketballnation__/post/DLXGrEgySO-?xmt=AQF05HFPzqtXcybdYdUzwudPNnUPxlmjRsrzTKE8Vli-vA |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 9:00 AM Author: ...,.,.,.,.,.,...,.,.,. Bikini pics:
https://www.instagram.com/p/C7NmQHINzQc/?igsh=MWY0eG93Z2kzbjVsZQ== |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 11:58 AM Author: mountain cat That's something i forgot to mention, but 100% that's a big part too. When you turn on any game there are more attractive women playing than ever before.
If you have high quality of play + hot women, i think that will boost the popularity. You also have the surging ticket prices for NBA making it impossible for regular people to ever go to a game. |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:03 PM Author: sealclubber lol, you are furthering the flame with this bullshit forcememe alert. michelle obama is hot. stacy abrahms is fierce. trannies should be able to participate! |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 1:35 PM Author: rick'claim panama (1) they know all the $ is in influencer endorsement deals, not their stupid wnba 'salaries' (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051573) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 11:59 AM Author: Covid was a Hoax this is just flat out wrong. wnba is horrible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051293) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 1:17 PM Author: mountain cat Flaem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051522) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 2:55 PM Author: lexie hull Dupa all of your basketball takes are embarrassingly bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051771) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:20 PM Author: mountain cat like which ones? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051821) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:23 PM Author: chilmata Can someone post the cliff notes or some links to this discrimination of Caitlin Clark? I have to admit I haven't been following because she's so ugly, but this intrigues me. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051825) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 3:39 PM Author: mountain cat There's jealousy for sure. Players who have been making $60k for years and playing overseas in the offseason to make ends meet who resent CC who has tons of endorsements and is rich. A lot believe that part of the CC phenomenon is the fact that she's white and if she were black, she would be treated very differently.
There's some truth to that. Caitlyn Clark was a household name in college. Juju Watkins and Hannah Hidalgo put up similar numbers and IMO are more sensational players to watch. How many posters know who they are? Paige Bueckers, another white girl, is also widely known.
On the court, CC has been subjected to a number a hard fouls that people rightly or wrongly attribute to this partially race fueled jealousy. |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:06 PM Author: chilmata ty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051900) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 4:08 PM Author: aalewis Also they named that ape nigger gangsta bitch who shoots 50% on layups MVP or ROY or w/e instead of her last year (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49051911) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:20 PM Author: mountain cat Racism is ugly and I don’t know what you’re talking about bc CC won ROY in 2024. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49052771) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:37 AM Author: The Champ You’re ugly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053267) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:25 PM Author: michael doodikoff My barista told me that the atlanta wnba team season tickets are completely sold out. I'd go to a game (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49052782) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:07 AM Author: mountain cat Next year when i come in for blade show, let's try to hit a Dream game. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053247) |
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Date: June 26th, 2025 10:30 PM Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, The college game clearly had better storylines - which was 90% of the battle.
But then when you tune it into the game, they just can't shoot. Shots taht would go in for a man 95% of the time end up being airballs and shit. |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:14 AM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) All of the team names are insidiously fucking retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053252) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:21 AM Author: mountain cat Like which ones? They are all pretty generic and inoffensive IMO. Are the NBA names really better (e.g. Magic, Raptors, Wizards, Hornets, Pelicans)? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053256) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:38 AM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) "Dream" "Fever" "Wings" "Sky"
Tons of them are overly abstract and retarded. There are a few NBA teams like this too ("Magic"), but it seems to be a more modern phenomenon. But yes in general the newer NBA teams also have retarded names, just not quite to the same extreme and they're balanced out by some of the classics. |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:00 AM Author: mountain cat So like NBA team "suns" is OK but the WNBA team name "sun" is overly abstract and retarded. The concept of the sky, aces and storm similarly too abstract for you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053283) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:03 AM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) I just said some NBA teams suffer the same problem but it's balanced out by the classics. You're being intentionally obtuse because you know this is a valid criticism and there's no defending it other than whataboutism
And at least "Suns" relates to Phoenix. What the fuck does "Dream" even mean? The correct nba wtf comparison here is something like "Thunder" or "Magic" |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:08 AM Author: ataraxic i think it's fitting that wnba teams have weird faggy names. they should sound like women's teams, not men's teams. the gay wnba naming conventions are a subtle subconscious heteronormativity that's able to persist because they're inoffensive and not entirely overt. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053294) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:11 AM Author: faggotmaster (🧐) Tbf the NBA is easily the second faggiest league after the WNBA in terms of names (which I think is unironically a big impediment to its popularity -- eg nobody in NC gave a fuck about the "Bobcats", "Hornets" was just a flat out better name), so much of their naming problem is down to the fact that they drew inspiration from NBA and then doubled down on it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5743362&forum_id=2#49053299) |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 8:14 AM Author: mountain cat I'm really not being intentionally obtuse. The fact is every team name sounds ridiculous when it's new (e.g. memphis grizzlies, anaheim mighty ducks).
The WNBA is a new league so there are no "classics". I think it's better they came up with new names like Valkyries, Mystics, Liberty rather than generic already used names like Bears, Hawks or Tigers. |
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:32 AM Author: Barack Carcetti I largely agree with this.
Caitlyn Clark has the most compelling narrative arc of anyone playing basketball currently.
Her game is legitimately enjoyable to watch, and there is actual narrative tension around how big a superstar she can become in the WNBA.
Part of this is that the ruthless optimization of the NBA game has in large part stripped it of its narrative appeal.
There was a stretch before Federer and Nadal came around where the women's game had Martina Hingis and Anna Kournakova, and the Williams sisters were just starting. Where women's tennis had more interest than men's tennis did.
This is sort of similar.
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Date: June 27th, 2025 7:42 AM Author: Barack Carcetti Thinking about this a little more,
The WNBA has a couple of other things going for it.
First, they have the benefit of leveraging the free marketing from the college game, since player stay in school longer, you get to know them, then when they're ready to come into the pro game, they're more ready to be difference makers as soon as they show up.
Their games are easy to find on TV. Weekend afternoon TV slots. I guess I'm old, but the NBA starting games at 9PM, I'm half asleep by the second half, my kids aren't staying up to watch that. Weekend afternoon TV slots are much easier for casual fans (and young fans). Not that much competition in the summer either. |