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Guy who studied philosophy of government here to help u make sense of it all

America is grappling with an enormous power vacuum right now...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
Its the result of the femininization of leadership and organ...
pearly stirring boistinker
  07/24/24
There's no recipe for success at this. Every government tend...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
I love men
Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
(effete jewish dork)
submissive whorehouse sex offender
  07/24/24
No it’s a war of generations between the wealthiest ge...
sable hospital goyim
  07/24/24
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Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
It's not unlike how Emperors used to castrate rivals. See al...
balding house-broken school cafeteria
  07/24/24
...
Hairraiser brethren french chef
  07/25/24
Yeah boomers used longhouse and it was very effective
pearly stirring boistinker
  07/25/24
Das marxist.
Adventurous lay azn
  07/25/24
Oh you studied philosophy of government? Sounds like someone...
submissive whorehouse sex offender
  07/24/24
There are a few interesting things about this field that get...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
...
Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
Hypo: a country decides to divide its legislature into two h...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
180
tripping wonderful personal credit line
  07/24/24
There is no power vacuum.
ruby university
  07/24/24
This. Power is firmly entrenched and has not vacated. The ow...
Pink stag film
  07/24/24
“Shaking up” is a weird way to describe it. Fra...
sable hospital goyim
  07/24/24
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Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
Bakhmut holds
Adventurous lay azn
  07/25/24
ok but you havent really said anything about the implication...
green feces forum
  07/24/24
I think they have to be reasoned out. However, I also think ...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
OP, thoughts on this development? https://www.autoadmit.com...
Learning Disabled Garrison
  07/24/24
Here's another protip: everything we imagine "governmen...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
180
Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
PS England hasn't been ruled by an English dynasty for the p...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
Wow. Just wow.
Learning Disabled Garrison
  07/24/24
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Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
basically western Germans
Gold Liquid Oxygen
  07/24/24
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Abnormal slap-happy field
  07/24/24
it's nutty we call ourselves Anglo-Saxon just say Germanic
Gold Liquid Oxygen
  07/25/24
Enough people need to at least admit that it's been 1000 yea...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/25/24
But professor, isn’t it obviously a stupid and pointle...
sable hospital goyim
  07/24/24
Obviously there's no way we can will ourselves back to the p...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
How many epidemics have caused how many governments to fail ...
sable hospital goyim
  07/24/24
America just ran up $15 trillion in debt over COVID. How di...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/24/24
Ok hmm uh I guess I’ll put you down for zero.
sable hospital goyim
  07/25/24
PS the Visigothic Code is better written and makes more sens...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/25/24
II. What the Law Is. The law is the rival of divinity; t...
Adventurous lay azn
  07/25/24


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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:27 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

America is grappling with an enormous power vacuum right now. That hasn't happened during the lifetime of anyone alive today, if it's ever happened at all. Your history teachers probably didn't teach you much about power vacuums because they didn't think America would ever see one. They were also never taught anything about power vacuums, because they are not well covered in the literature.

This has a self-reinforcing effect. Because power vacuums are not well documented, we assume they are infrequent and therefore unlikely. However, the people who follow this chain of logic are victims of availability bias, because power vacuums by their nature do not produce Procopius types. Historically, you needed to be king/emperor for quite some time before anyone would bother to write the history of your rule.

To give an example: the "Third Intermediate Period" of Egypt lasted 400 years. That means Ancient Egyptians went longer with no Pharaoh than the time between John Locke's lifetime and the present day. For four centuries no one built any monuments to kangz and shit. People didn't even want kangz at all. They were happy to have NOKANGZ. When they finally got a kang again he was installed by foreigners, not by "Egyptian" people, to the extent it makes sense to call people "Egyptian' 400 years after the last Egyptian kang died.

Furthermore this isn't some isolated incident, nor does it appear to be infrequent AT ALL. Most nations did not come into existence until after the 18th century. National governments are not only historically rare, they are historically short lived, especially when the nation is very large. To the contrary, for most of recorded history it was argued that kings should prefer large populations over large territories. The USA was the first nation to challenge that wisdom, and at the time it was founded it consisted of only 13 states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888407)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:28 PM
Author: pearly stirring boistinker

Its the result of the femininization of leadership and organizational structure that isn't responsible to a single point of failure (das patriarchy!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888411)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:33 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

There's no recipe for success at this. Every government tends to collapse, often rapidly. This happens even when enormous effort is put into making the thing work

A great example of this is the Qin dynasty. These people went apeshit reforming EVERYTHING. They deleted 30% of the written vocabulary and permanently altered Chinese writing forever. They ruled from 221-206 BC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888431)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:09 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field

I love men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888854)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:35 PM
Author: submissive whorehouse sex offender

(effete jewish dork)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888438)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:33 PM
Author: sable hospital goyim

No it’s a war of generations between the wealthiest generation in the history of human civilization v all younger gens (with the Gen X sellouts fencesitting as usual). All the identity bullshit is downstream from/a byproduct of this. DEI is a great tool for boomer entrenchment as it’s an indirect way to disarm younger and potentially stronger rivals.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888942)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:07 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889099)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: balding house-broken school cafeteria

It's not unlike how Emperors used to castrate rivals. See also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_mutilation_in_Byzantine_culture

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889237)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 3:15 AM
Author: Hairraiser brethren french chef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47890318)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 8:58 AM
Author: pearly stirring boistinker

Yeah boomers used longhouse and it was very effective

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47890618)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 5:19 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

Das marxist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47892540)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:28 PM
Author: submissive whorehouse sex offender

Oh you studied philosophy of government? Sounds like someone people should listen to and not a boring, tedious faggot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888412)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:42 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

There are a few interesting things about this field that get overlooked.

1. There's very little to read. No one really put any thought into this at all until the 1500s. Furthermore almost everything worth saying had been written by the late 17th century. The 19th century gave us JS Mill but also and Karl Marx, and the 20th century gave us Lenin and Francis Fukuyama. It's all dogshit.

2. It's easy as fuck to understand.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888460)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889168)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:47 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

Hypo: a country decides to divide its legislature into two houses, making it bicameral.

Why? What's the point? Who came up with this idea? What was he thinking? Hint: he was a French faggot and a lunatic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888478)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:56 PM
Author: tripping wonderful personal credit line

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888513)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:55 PM
Author: ruby university

There is no power vacuum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888511)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 6:06 PM
Author: Pink stag film

This. Power is firmly entrenched and has not vacated. The owners are shaking up management a bit, is all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888558)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:36 PM
Author: sable hospital goyim

“Shaking up” is a weird way to describe it. Frantically clinging to power and leaning on all their allies and interdependent players to close ranks and prefer managed, slow decline to any version of growth or progress that is even slightly disruptive (ie no growth or progress).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888957)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:35 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889240)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 5:17 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

Bakhmut holds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47892530)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 5:58 PM
Author: green feces forum

ok but you havent really said anything about the implications of the power vaccuum

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888524)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 6:06 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

I think they have to be reasoned out. However, I also think the baseline assumption should be that the vacuum will keep on running until someone convinces a critical mass of people to want powerful people. Otherwise, a power vacuum may be a good thing. All of those ivy league credentials and your skull & bones connections may simply become worth dogshit. All that power, vaporized. If you want to speculate that Rothschilds and Rockefellers are running the show, know that those dynasties can die out too. Most people on earth cannot trace their own ancestral lineage back more than 2-3 generations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888559)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 6:03 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Garrison

OP, thoughts on this development?

https://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563457&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888544)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:24 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

Here's another protip: everything we imagine "governments" being today arose out of two competing models: the Roman/Catholic imperial model and the Germanic model, where kings were elected and expected to rule by example (i.e. no presumption of infallibility). These two forces gave birth to the monarchical system on which the earliest European states were premised. Over time, as secularism became more fashionable, the German model began to win (see e.g. the creation of the USA). However, the early Germanic states were also not secular (they just weren't Catholic). In both the protestant and Roman traditions (and Jewish, and Egyptian, and nearly every other tradition), judicial power had largely been reserved to a priestly caste. Gradually, over about 200 years, we saw the emergence of secular judiciaries, and today the law making authority of religious institutions is basically extinct in most of the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888911)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:30 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888931)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:27 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

PS England hasn't been ruled by an English dynasty for the past 1000 years. The current dynasty is Dutch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888922)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:34 PM
Author: Learning Disabled Garrison

Wow. Just wow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47888948)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:06 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889094)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:15 PM
Author: Gold Liquid Oxygen

basically western Germans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889162)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:16 PM
Author: Abnormal slap-happy field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889165)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 3:00 AM
Author: Gold Liquid Oxygen

it's nutty we call ourselves Anglo-Saxon just say Germanic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47890302)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 5:13 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

Enough people need to at least admit that it's been 1000 years since Anglo-Saxons occupied the English throne.

But you're right that these distinctions are also in some ways preposterous. What makes England (or France) not "German?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47892517)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:46 PM
Author: sable hospital goyim

But professor, isn’t it obviously a stupid and pointless waste of time to try to compare or analogize these pre-industrial models with nearly anything that determines human social structures in a planet of 8 billion with an economy that’s been completely transformed two to three times (depending on how you count) in the last 100ish years? Like why would the governing preferences of a much smaller, landlocked, pre-industrial country with bartering-based economy and a population in the mid hundred thousands have anything to do with modern industrialized nations? If you wanted to compare to that kind of an economy/society you would learn more eg studying the Amish and how they relate to their industrialized neighbors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889004)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 7:53 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

Obviously there's no way we can will ourselves back to the preindustrial era. I'm simply pointing out that there are no permanent institutions of government, or even particularly long lived institutions of government. Epidemics alone have caused many governments to fall and I think it's easy now to see why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889036)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:05 PM
Author: sable hospital goyim

How many epidemics have caused how many governments to fail in industrialized nations post invention and mass marketing of antibiotics and the combustion engine?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889088)



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Date: July 24th, 2024 8:34 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

America just ran up $15 trillion in debt over COVID. How did 16th century Spain manage all that debt? What happened to all those colonies that were supposed to generate wealth?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47889238)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 8:10 PM
Author: sable hospital goyim

Ok hmm uh I guess I’ll put you down for zero.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47893083)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 5:29 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

PS the Visigothic Code is better written and makes more sense than the US Constitution. Isidore of Seville also singlehandedly preserved more ancient knowledge and wisdom than every other "Roman" author combined.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47892571)



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Date: July 25th, 2024 5:43 PM
Author: Adventurous lay azn

II. What the Law Is.

The law is the rival of divinity; the oracle of religion; the source of instruction; the artificer of right; the guardian and promoter of good morals; the rudder of the state; the messenger of justice; the mistress of life; the soul of the body politic.

III. What the Law Does.

The law rules every order of the state, and every condition of man; it governs wives and husbands; youth and age: the learned and the ignorant, the polished and the rude. It aims to provide the highest degree of safety for both prince and people, and, in renown and excellence, it is as conspicuous as the noon-day sun.

IV. What the Law Should Be.

The law should be plain, and not lead any citizen to commit error or fraud. It should be suitable to the place and the time, according to the character and custom of the state; prescribing justice and equity; consistent, honorable, worthy, useful, and necessary; and it should be carefully noted whether its provisions are framed rather for the convenience, than for the injury, of the public; so that it may be determined whether it sufficiently provides for the administration of justice; whether or not it appears to be contrary to religion, and whether it defends the right, and may be observed without detriment to any one.

V. Why the Law is Made.

Laws are made for these reasons: that human wickedness may be restrained through fear of their execution; that the lives of innocent men may be safe among criminals; and that the temptation to commit wrong may be restrained by the fear of punishment.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5563472&forum_id=2#47892637)