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Lawyer cites hallucinated case in brief. Gets absolutely destroyed

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968 ...
Big hateful lay
  08/14/25
the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/14/25
Would.
beady-eyed wild volcanic crater
  08/14/25
Binary 0
territorial whorehouse crotch
  08/15/25
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Swashbuckling Gaming Laptop Fat Ankles
  08/14/25
what's causing AI to do this? honestly, these reactions f...
Mind-boggling Stead
  08/14/25
these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of the...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/14/25
AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.
cheese-eating pistol skinny woman
  08/14/25
fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference f...
frisky claret national coffee pot
  08/15/25
...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
No just practitioners like you were before you fled.
sinister turquoise hospital weed whacker
  08/18/25
is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your min...
unholy juggernaut death wish
  08/15/25
low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-B...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
overboard? lawcucks have ONE JOB
Talented shrine indirect expression
  08/14/25
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Cocky ocher market puppy
  08/14/25
AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey...
Stubborn copper field knife
  08/15/25
Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The ...
Histrionic painfully honest water buffalo
  08/15/25
I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro ...
titillating cuckoldry dilemma
  08/15/25
Well, the judge is AI too
rebellious flesh really tough guy
  08/15/25
LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million...
Exhilarant Piazza Old Irish Cottage
  08/18/25
pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like...
bronze trip senate
  08/14/25
who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"
internet-worthy anal ceo theatre
  08/14/25
is there a better word than "making shit up"?
low-t menage laser beams
  08/14/25
ai slop
Talented shrine indirect expression
  08/14/25
ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/14/25
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation
cheese-eating pistol skinny woman
  08/14/25
normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than halluc...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
Ai slop can be real
Exhilarant Piazza Old Irish Cottage
  08/18/25
technofantastigorical.
boyish mental disorder
  08/14/25
confabulating
cheese-eating pistol skinny woman
  08/14/25
yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" ...
internet-worthy anal ceo theatre
  08/14/25
(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallu...
boyish mental disorder
  08/14/25
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low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you soun...
cheese-eating pistol skinny woman
  08/14/25
any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but...
boyish mental disorder
  08/14/25
should be jail time for this shit
Talented shrine indirect expression
  08/14/25
...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legit...
bateful preventive strike
  08/14/25
Judges getting in on the act: https://www.abajournal.com/...
lake native
  08/14/25
not a good look for two federal judges.
Stubborn copper field knife
  08/15/25
insightful journalism: >Scheindlin tells the ABA Journ...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case befor...
lake native
  08/15/25
GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES: https://www.abajournal.com/i...
low-t menage laser beams
  08/15/25
...
narrow-minded associate ticket booth
  08/14/25
BAM!, literally, in this case.
Stubborn copper field knife
  08/15/25
...
Big hateful lay
  08/15/25
I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishmen...
motley friendly grandma
  08/15/25
Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use...
Green Casino
  08/15/25
...
Big hateful lay
  08/18/25
They punished her like that for something that will be stand...
bateful preventive strike
  08/18/25
She should have used ShepAIrdize This
Exhilarant Piazza Old Irish Cottage
  08/18/25


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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:42 PM
Author: Big hateful lay

https://x.com/RobertFreundLaw/status/1956164045612228968

Another lawyer cited a bunch of fake, AI-hallucinated cases in a brief. Said she didn't knowingly do that.

Court orders sanctions:

-Counsel must write a letter to the 3 judges to whom she attributed fake cases

-Counsel is kicked off the case; pro hac revoked

-Brief stricken

-Counsel must give client a copy of the order

-Counsel must send the order to every judge presiding over any of her cases

-Court will send a copy of the order to all state bars where counsel is admitted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186591)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:05 PM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

the lawyer: https://res.cloudinary.com/furthered/image/fetch/w_480,h_480,c_fill,g_faces,g_auto,f_auto/https://cdn.furthered.com/images/public_profile/5e7b325a7e23c.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186673)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:06 PM
Author: beady-eyed wild volcanic crater

Would.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186679)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:55 AM
Author: territorial whorehouse crotch

Binary 0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187427)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:47 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Gaming Laptop Fat Ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186610)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:55 PM
Author: Mind-boggling Stead

what's causing AI to do this?

honestly, these reactions from judges seem overboard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186637)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:56 PM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

these reactions are 180. judges need to make examples of these shitlawyers to save the profession from AI, to put the fear in god in these people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186643)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: cheese-eating pistol skinny woman

AI will absolutely crush the legal industry within 10 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186703)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

fine, so judges should still stand up to it for now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187119)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:17 AM
Author: frisky claret national coffee pot

10 years of viability vs 5 years might make the difference for half the board to parachute out before the holocaust

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187136)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:18 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187137)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:11 AM
Author: sinister turquoise hospital weed whacker

No just practitioners like you were before you fled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49193630)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:56 AM
Author: unholy juggernaut death wish

is AI useless or will it take all the jobs? make up your mind

amazing how jews first determine what is "correct" by how they feel then they backwards rationalize into their "opinion"

emotional faggoty women, the lot of you jews

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187432)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 PM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

low iq schtick? AI can be shit yet take jobs, just like H1-Bs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49188813)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Talented shrine indirect expression

overboard?

lawcucks have ONE JOB

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186689)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: Cocky ocher market puppy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186696)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:10 AM
Author: Stubborn copper field knife

AI is programmed to be like a golden retriever, not a donkey. it will do nearly anything to please the prompter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187126)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: Histrionic painfully honest water buffalo

Overboard? This is a real trout in the milk situation. The lawfags who do this never do anything right, they simply copy/paste whatever they find without checking it. We just couldn't prove that's what they were doing until now. If anything the judges are being too lenient.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187131)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:38 AM
Author: titillating cuckoldry dilemma

I don't think the sanction is overly harsh. She has her pro have vice revoked and has to own up to being a retard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187157)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:22 PM
Author: rebellious flesh really tough guy

Well, the judge is AI too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49188828)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:32 AM
Author: Exhilarant Piazza Old Irish Cottage

LLMs are nothing but giant roulette wheels running a million spins to determine the most likely next token (part of a word, e.g. ‘to’ and ‘ken’). It is the proverbial monkey typing Shakespeare on a long enough timeline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49194335)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:58 PM
Author: bronze trip senate

pretty fucked up that the hammer gets dropped on people like this while that one nigger judge can literally make a legal ruling(!) based on completely made up AI shit and nothing at all happens to him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186648)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 10:59 PM
Author: internet-worthy anal ceo theatre

who decided to name this shit "hallucinations"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186650)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:03 PM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

is there a better word than "making shit up"?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186665)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: Talented shrine indirect expression

ai slop

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186691)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:14 PM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

ai slop could just be a shitty brief that babbles on and has that ai slop look. it doesnt properly capture the "making shit up" aspect that hallucinations does

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186695)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: cheese-eating pistol skinny woman

https://www.dictionary.com/browse/confabulation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186736)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

normies dont know this sat word. how's it better than hallucination?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187117)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: Exhilarant Piazza Old Irish Cottage

Ai slop can be real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49194337)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:17 PM
Author: boyish mental disorder

technofantastigorical.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186701)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: cheese-eating pistol skinny woman

confabulating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186709)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:19 PM
Author: internet-worthy anal ceo theatre

yeah: "fake case" or "fake information" or "fake facts"

Lawyers always need to make up some new retarded term to make themselves feel smart when they blurt it out. Lawyers are scum.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186710)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: boyish mental disorder

(really smart guy who thinks shitlawyers coined “hallucinations” wrt ai)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186717)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:03 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187118)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:18 PM
Author: cheese-eating pistol skinny woman

they're more accurately termed 'confabulations' but you sound like a faggot when you say that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186707)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:15 PM
Author: boyish mental disorder

any lawyer too lazy to cite check a brief they submitted but didn’t even bother to write while KNOWING that is a likely outcome deserves to be disbarred.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186698)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:16 PM
Author: Talented shrine indirect expression

should be jail time for this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186699)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:04 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187120)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: bateful preventive strike

that’s a pretty extreme punishment. it’s a legitimate inexcusable fuck up, I get that, but ho lee fuk they might as well make her walk through the street naked cersei-style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186742)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:32 PM
Author: lake native

Judges getting in on the act:

https://www.abajournal.com/web/article/who-or-what-is-to-blame-for-2-federal-judges-error-filled-withdrawn-opinions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186759)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:13 AM
Author: Stubborn copper field knife

not a good look for two federal judges.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187129)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:15 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

insightful journalism:

>Scheindlin tells the ABA Journal in an email that, in her experience, most judges use law clerks to conduct research. And most ask their law clerks to prepare first drafts of opinions after discussing each issue, so that the clerk knows how the judge wants to rule.

is anyone reading the aba journal not aware of this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187132)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 10:41 AM
Author: lake native

LOL, most judges don't even know anything about a case before a clerk gives them the proposed draft of an opinion. At least in the courts I clerked for- clerks for various judges trade war stories.

edit: this applies to district judges more so than appellate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187399)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:16 AM
Author: low-t menage laser beams

GUESS RACES OF THE 2 JUDGES:

https://www.abajournal.com/images/main_images/Neals_Wingate_headshots.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187134)



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Date: August 14th, 2025 11:55 PM
Author: narrow-minded associate ticket booth



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49186831)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 7:09 AM
Author: Stubborn copper field knife

BAM!, literally, in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49187125)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 6:20 PM
Author: Big hateful lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49188702)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 8:55 PM
Author: motley friendly grandma

I don't get the people saying this was too harsh a punishment.

She's a lawyer, charging her clients money, submitting stuff she didn't write and didn't even bother to read to a judge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49188996)



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Date: August 15th, 2025 9:00 PM
Author: Green Casino

Looking forward to reading about a case where both sides use AI to draft every document and the judge uses AI to draft the decision, except the articles about it will probably also be written by AI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49189009)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:28 AM
Author: Big hateful lay



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49194332)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 1:08 AM
Author: bateful preventive strike

They punished her like that for something that will be standard practice in the legal profession in 3 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49193629)



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Date: August 18th, 2025 11:33 AM
Author: Exhilarant Piazza Old Irish Cottage

She should have used ShepAIrdize This

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5762600&forum_id=2#49194338)