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Why do the childless care deeply about society's morals?
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:00 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann Ann Coulter, for example, have very strong beliefs about society's culture and morality but why does she even care?
You're going to die in like 15-20 years if not sooner. You don't have to worry about the world that your children and further descendants will live in. |
Date: March 10th, 2023 1:00 PM Author: glittery dopamine national ann coulter seems nuts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034242) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:21 PM Author: Deep office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036087) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:02 PM Author: Sapphire Potus Twinkling Uncleanness Filthy jews like you set up society that way because you hate humanity
What was even the point of this thread |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:10 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann to understand a person's interest in preserving a cultural identity or specific set of morals outside of "don't kill people".
Like why would Ann Coulter care what language children in the US speak 50 years from now?
Similarly, I'd question why a childless shitlib reform jewish woman would care if future generations of jewish children marry each other.
Maybe someone could explain it to me. |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:23 PM Author: Deep office calm down, Ann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036098) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:03 PM Author: Appetizing coiffed kitchen this is why there should be no politicians without children. politicians should have a firm vested interest in the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034258) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:04 PM Author: autistic excitant selfie people who are hurt this is like the +10 IQ version of the prole christian 'argument' "but how can you even be a moral person if you don't believe in god??!?!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034263) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann so what does that put me at? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034275) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:08 PM Author: Marvelous Church Ann Coulter just hasn't met the right guy yet she'll form babby someday (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034276) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:08 PM Author: splenetic crackhouse the idea of only caring about society to the extent your immediate family is impacted is an incredibly recent one which really only emerged after the decline of religion and a plague on american thinking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034277) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:11 PM Author: autistic excitant selfie people who are hurt i mean it's completely true for 95%+ of the population
it's completely laughable that braindead normies could even comprehend (let alone have coherent deep value judgments about!) an infinite-layered abstraction like 'society'
there's a reason why so many people magically become conservative after marrying and having kids when they were previously NPC hedonists waddling around babbling about "rights" and "freedoms" |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Irradiated Sex Offender (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034318) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: glittery dopamine national (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034327) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:16 PM Author: splenetic crackhouse it's true because over the course of the 21st century society became far less religious, but nothing replaced that common-ground north star. and even going back in human history to periods before organized religion, communities (even on the hunter-gatherer scale) were forced to work together for the greater good.
to the extent having kids does force someone to think about these things, most parents still only do so purely out of interest for their children. which is generally better than nothing but still a far cry from the world of even just 100 years ago |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann for probably most of human history men didn't care at all about even their immediate family members let alone society as a whole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034313) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:22 PM Author: adventurous elastic band boistinker not true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036090) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:50 PM Author: Cerebral Plaza Rigor Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036141) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:53 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036147) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: Sexy 180 den queen of the night had dupa namechecked someone like Kagan, the thread would be celebratory. he's right.
A childless woman is a failed organism, and will be filled with paroxysms of projection, trying to turn everyone else into her infants |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: aphrodisiac senate good people care abt others regardless of whether we'll give birth to them or not.
t. ranny |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: amethyst up-to-no-good cruise ship I don't have kids. I'm not against having kids. But I definitely don't want to live in the Escape from L.A. hellscape we're working on developing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034322) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:23 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann ok but do you care about US culture war shit beyond your own life? if so why? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034383) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:28 PM Author: amethyst up-to-no-good cruise ship I'm a librarian. Depending on how the culture war plays out, libraries as a public service could be mortally wounded by parents eager to control what their children are allowed to read.
And the REASON parents are so up in arms is because many librarians, in concert with fag homo authors, are pushing sick grooming material on kids. Not to mention all the books promoting women, blacks, and trannies at the expense of the evil white man. Librarians are incredibly liberal (myself excluded) but the public they serve is not. |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: Irradiated Sex Offender Nieces, nephews, cousins, second-cousins? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034338) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:23 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann second cousins, sure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034385) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:28 PM Author: insanely creepy frisky orchestra pit Ann Coulter is a performance artist dupa. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034418) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:23 PM Author: Deep office this is the only explanation that makes sense. how much does she make from this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036092) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:29 PM Author: fuchsia self-absorbed base I assume that childless people care about other people who aren't their descendents in the same way you and I do. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034432) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:39 PM Author: glittery dopamine national ie not at all (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034493) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:47 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann can you define the extent to which you care about how people 100 years from now who are not your direct descendants live their lives?
Part of it could be religious beliefs. So for devout Christians there is certainly a understandable reason to care about future generations and their belief in Christ for example. |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:51 PM Author: fuchsia self-absorbed base Are you pretending to be unfamiliar with concepts such as nationalism, ethnic affiliation, cultural pride, etc.? Just trying to understand your shtick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034588) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:57 PM Author: autistic excitant selfie people who are hurt you should think about his question harder. it's a lot deeper of an issue than it might first seem
having an opinion about something is not the same thing as *actually* caring about it, in the same way that one *actually* cares about his/her loved ones |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:03 PM Author: fuchsia self-absorbed base I think xo in general is a very small minded place, and xo posters tend to incorrectly universalize their own experiences and feelings.
It is true that xo has wholeheartedly embraced the American primacy of the nuclear family, layering on a pseudoscientific morality founded in the propagation of ones own unique genetic attributes. I have no real issue with this, but I don't think it's a universal perspective. |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:37 PM Author: autistic excitant selfie people who are hurt that isn't what they're saying
they're saying that human beings cannot, physiologically, care about abstractions or persons who they do not have personal relationships with in the same way that they care about persons who they have personal relationships with. i agree with them that this is true
to the extent that anyone "cares" about persons or abstractions or 'society,' that "care" is an intellectual phenomenon, not an emotional and instinctive one. yeah, i do care to some extent about the future of 'society.' yeah, i do care about some person i've never met whose suffering is profiled in some human-interest story i read about in a newspaper. but i don't care about them in the same qualitative or quantitative way that i care about my family members or my friends. i can't. my brain doesn't work that way. nobody's brain does
once you recognize that any "caring" about persons/things outside of one's dunbar number is a purely intellectual phenomenon, you realize (hopefully) that anybody who is not intelligent and self-aware enough to intellectualize things on this level *does not* actually "care" about any of these people/things, period. this is why stuff like the "NPC" meme speaks to people so strongly. there really is a fundamental difference between "NPCs" who *literally* cannot and do not care about 'society' in the abstract and people who are actually smart enough, self-aware enough, and honest enough to have coherent, reasonably deep opinions about it
needless to say, it follows that people in the former category should absolutely not be "voting" and we should absolutely not have "democracy," mass literacy, etc |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 3:01 PM Author: fuchsia self-absorbed base It seems to me that you started with the last paragraph and worked backwards to justify it to yourself. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46035149) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 7:51 PM Author: autistic excitant selfie people who are hurt No, the entire argument for the moral correctness of the natural hierarchy rests on the above (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036326) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:24 PM Author: startling business firm boltzmann Religion transcends ethnic and cultural identity which exist solely in the physical world. Hence my comment about Christians caring about future generations' belief in Christ.
That line of reasoning doesn't apply to caring about whether children 5 generations removed from you speak your preferred language, identify with your country of citizenship or take pride in your race/ethnicity.
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:52 PM Author: Cerebral Plaza Rigor If you’re not Christian there’s really no moral basis to care about anyone, including your own family. I think you are realizing the contradiction in the atheist/materialist worldview. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036143) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:28 PM Author: spectacular narrow-minded police squad (RSF free thread) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034873) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:50 PM Author: Cerebral Plaza Rigor Lol at this. Is this a serious post? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036140) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 7:00 PM Author: Vivacious liquid oxygen The better question is why do naturalists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036160) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 8:28 PM Author: supple elite candlestick maker really makes you think! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036393) |
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Date: March 10th, 2023 9:15 PM Author: hairraiser internet-worthy market They do? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036521) |