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Why do the childless care deeply about society's morals?

Ann Coulter, for example, have very strong beliefs about soc...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
ann coulter seems nuts
Saffron Travel Guidebook Set
  03/10/23
...
disturbing jap
  03/10/23
Filthy jews like you set up society that way because you hat...
Vermilion idiotic tank hominid
  03/10/23
to understand a person's interest in preserving a cultural i...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
calm down, Ann
disturbing jap
  03/10/23
this is why there should be no politicians without children....
amethyst talented chapel
  03/10/23
this is like the +10 IQ version of the prole christian 'argu...
"in real life"
  03/10/23
so what does that put me at?
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
Ann Coulter just hasn't met the right guy yet she'll form ba...
Provocative yellow scourge upon the earth
  03/10/23
the idea of only caring about society to the extent your im...
Trip domesticated abode boistinker
  03/10/23
i mean it's completely true for 95%+ of the population i...
"in real life"
  03/10/23
...
cerise twinkling uncleanness
  03/10/23
...
Saffron Travel Guidebook Set
  03/10/23
it's true because over the course of the 21st century societ...
Trip domesticated abode boistinker
  03/10/23
for probably most of human history men didn't care at all ab...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
not true
Overrated navy crotch
  03/10/23
Lol
Outnumbered Hospital Circlehead
  03/10/23
...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
had dupa namechecked someone like Kagan, the thread would be...
Floppy fishy national security agency corner
  03/10/23
good people care abt others regardless of whether we'll give...
sinister crackhouse clown
  03/10/23
I don't have kids. I'm not against having kids. But I defini...
INSANE 80S MUSIC LYRIC GUY
  03/10/23
ok but do you care about US culture war shit beyond your own...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
I'm a librarian. Depending on how the culture war plays out,...
INSANE 80S MUSIC LYRIC GUY
  03/10/23
Nieces, nephews, cousins, second-cousins?
cerise twinkling uncleanness
  03/10/23
second cousins, sure.
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
Ann Coulter is a performance artist dupa.
aggressive trailer park kitty cat
  03/10/23
this is the only explanation that makes sense. how much does...
disturbing jap
  03/10/23
I assume that childless people care about other people who a...
Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan
  03/10/23
ie not at all
Saffron Travel Guidebook Set
  03/10/23
can you define the extent to which you care about how people...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
Are you pretending to be unfamiliar with concepts such as na...
Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan
  03/10/23
you should think about his question harder. it's a lot deepe...
"in real life"
  03/10/23
I think xo in general is a very small minded place, and xo p...
Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan
  03/10/23
that isn't what they're saying they're saying that human ...
"in real life"
  03/10/23
It seems to me that you started with the last paragraph and ...
Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan
  03/10/23
No, the entire argument for the moral correctness of the nat...
"in real life"
  03/10/23
Religion transcends ethnic and cultural identity which exist...
at-the-ready stage
  03/10/23
If you’re not Christian there’s really no moral ...
Outnumbered Hospital Circlehead
  03/10/23
(RSF free thread)
Aphrodisiac Locale
  03/10/23
Lol at this. Is this a serious post?
Outnumbered Hospital Circlehead
  03/10/23
The better question is why do naturalists
Mischievous trump supporter
  03/10/23
really makes you think!
hyperactive sweet tailpipe fortuitous meteor
  03/10/23
They do?
Marvelous mood immigrant
  03/10/23


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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:00 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

Ann Coulter, for example, have very strong beliefs about society's culture and morality but why does she even care?

You're going to die in like 15-20 years if not sooner. You don't have to worry about the world that your children and further descendants will live in.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034241)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:00 PM
Author: Saffron Travel Guidebook Set

ann coulter seems nuts

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034242)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:21 PM
Author: disturbing jap



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036087)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:02 PM
Author: Vermilion idiotic tank hominid

Filthy jews like you set up society that way because you hate humanity

What was even the point of this thread

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034254)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:10 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

to understand a person's interest in preserving a cultural identity or specific set of morals outside of "don't kill people".

Like why would Ann Coulter care what language children in the US speak 50 years from now?

Similarly, I'd question why a childless shitlib reform jewish woman would care if future generations of jewish children marry each other.

Maybe someone could explain it to me.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034295)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:23 PM
Author: disturbing jap

calm down, Ann

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036098)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:03 PM
Author: amethyst talented chapel

this is why there should be no politicians without children. politicians should have a firm vested interest in the future

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034258)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:04 PM
Author: "in real life"

this is like the +10 IQ version of the prole christian 'argument' "but how can you even be a moral person if you don't believe in god??!?!"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034263)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:07 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

so what does that put me at?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034275)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:08 PM
Author: Provocative yellow scourge upon the earth

Ann Coulter just hasn't met the right guy yet she'll form babby someday

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034276)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:08 PM
Author: Trip domesticated abode boistinker

the idea of only caring about society to the extent your immediate family is impacted is an incredibly recent one which really only emerged after the decline of religion and a plague on american thinking

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034277)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:11 PM
Author: "in real life"

i mean it's completely true for 95%+ of the population

it's completely laughable that braindead normies could even comprehend (let alone have coherent deep value judgments about!) an infinite-layered abstraction like 'society'

there's a reason why so many people magically become conservative after marrying and having kids when they were previously NPC hedonists waddling around babbling about "rights" and "freedoms"

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034304)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:13 PM
Author: cerise twinkling uncleanness



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034318)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:14 PM
Author: Saffron Travel Guidebook Set



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034327)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:16 PM
Author: Trip domesticated abode boistinker

it's true because over the course of the 21st century society became far less religious, but nothing replaced that common-ground north star. and even going back in human history to periods before organized religion, communities (even on the hunter-gatherer scale) were forced to work together for the greater good.

to the extent having kids does force someone to think about these things, most parents still only do so purely out of interest for their children. which is generally better than nothing but still a far cry from the world of even just 100 years ago

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034342)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:12 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

for probably most of human history men didn't care at all about even their immediate family members let alone society as a whole.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034313)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:22 PM
Author: Overrated navy crotch

not true

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036090)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:50 PM
Author: Outnumbered Hospital Circlehead

Lol

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036141)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:53 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036147)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:12 PM
Author: Floppy fishy national security agency corner

had dupa namechecked someone like Kagan, the thread would be celebratory. he's right.

A childless woman is a failed organism, and will be filled with paroxysms of projection, trying to turn everyone else into her infants

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034314)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:12 PM
Author: sinister crackhouse clown

good people care abt others regardless of whether we'll give birth to them or not.

t. ranny

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034315)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:13 PM
Author: INSANE 80S MUSIC LYRIC GUY

I don't have kids. I'm not against having kids. But I definitely don't want to live in the Escape from L.A. hellscape we're working on developing.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034322)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

ok but do you care about US culture war shit beyond your own life? if so why?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034383)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:28 PM
Author: INSANE 80S MUSIC LYRIC GUY

I'm a librarian. Depending on how the culture war plays out, libraries as a public service could be mortally wounded by parents eager to control what their children are allowed to read.

And the REASON parents are so up in arms is because many librarians, in concert with fag homo authors, are pushing sick grooming material on kids. Not to mention all the books promoting women, blacks, and trannies at the expense of the evil white man. Librarians are incredibly liberal (myself excluded) but the public they serve is not.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034866)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:15 PM
Author: cerise twinkling uncleanness

Nieces, nephews, cousins, second-cousins?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034338)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:23 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

second cousins, sure.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034385)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:28 PM
Author: aggressive trailer park kitty cat

Ann Coulter is a performance artist dupa.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034418)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:23 PM
Author: disturbing jap

this is the only explanation that makes sense. how much does she make from this?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036092)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:29 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan

I assume that childless people care about other people who aren't their descendents in the same way you and I do.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034432)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:39 PM
Author: Saffron Travel Guidebook Set

ie not at all

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034493)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:47 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

can you define the extent to which you care about how people 100 years from now who are not your direct descendants live their lives?

Part of it could be religious beliefs. So for devout Christians there is certainly a understandable reason to care about future generations and their belief in Christ for example.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034562)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:51 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan

Are you pretending to be unfamiliar with concepts such as nationalism, ethnic affiliation, cultural pride, etc.? Just trying to understand your shtick.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034588)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 1:57 PM
Author: "in real life"

you should think about his question harder. it's a lot deeper of an issue than it might first seem

having an opinion about something is not the same thing as *actually* caring about it, in the same way that one *actually* cares about his/her loved ones

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034631)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:03 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan

I think xo in general is a very small minded place, and xo posters tend to incorrectly universalize their own experiences and feelings.

It is true that xo has wholeheartedly embraced the American primacy of the nuclear family, layering on a pseudoscientific morality founded in the propagation of ones own unique genetic attributes. I have no real issue with this, but I don't think it's a universal perspective.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034671)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:37 PM
Author: "in real life"

that isn't what they're saying

they're saying that human beings cannot, physiologically, care about abstractions or persons who they do not have personal relationships with in the same way that they care about persons who they have personal relationships with. i agree with them that this is true

to the extent that anyone "cares" about persons or abstractions or 'society,' that "care" is an intellectual phenomenon, not an emotional and instinctive one. yeah, i do care to some extent about the future of 'society.' yeah, i do care about some person i've never met whose suffering is profiled in some human-interest story i read about in a newspaper. but i don't care about them in the same qualitative or quantitative way that i care about my family members or my friends. i can't. my brain doesn't work that way. nobody's brain does

once you recognize that any "caring" about persons/things outside of one's dunbar number is a purely intellectual phenomenon, you realize (hopefully) that anybody who is not intelligent and self-aware enough to intellectualize things on this level *does not* actually "care" about any of these people/things, period. this is why stuff like the "NPC" meme speaks to people so strongly. there really is a fundamental difference between "NPCs" who *literally* cannot and do not care about 'society' in the abstract and people who are actually smart enough, self-aware enough, and honest enough to have coherent, reasonably deep opinions about it

needless to say, it follows that people in the former category should absolutely not be "voting" and we should absolutely not have "democracy," mass literacy, etc

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034918)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 3:01 PM
Author: Insanely Creepy Seedy Mediation Coldplay Fan

It seems to me that you started with the last paragraph and worked backwards to justify it to yourself.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46035149)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 7:51 PM
Author: "in real life"

No, the entire argument for the moral correctness of the natural hierarchy rests on the above

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036326)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:24 PM
Author: at-the-ready stage

Religion transcends ethnic and cultural identity which exist solely in the physical world. Hence my comment about Christians caring about future generations' belief in Christ.

That line of reasoning doesn't apply to caring about whether children 5 generations removed from you speak your preferred language, identify with your country of citizenship or take pride in your race/ethnicity.



(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034848)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:52 PM
Author: Outnumbered Hospital Circlehead

If you’re not Christian there’s really no moral basis to care about anyone, including your own family. I think you are realizing the contradiction in the atheist/materialist worldview.

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036143)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 2:28 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Locale

(RSF free thread)

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46034873)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 6:50 PM
Author: Outnumbered Hospital Circlehead

Lol at this. Is this a serious post?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036140)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 7:00 PM
Author: Mischievous trump supporter

The better question is why do naturalists

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036160)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 8:28 PM
Author: hyperactive sweet tailpipe fortuitous meteor

really makes you think!

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036393)



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Date: March 10th, 2023 9:15 PM
Author: Marvelous mood immigrant

They do?

(https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=5304025&forum_id=2#46036521)