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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started w...
Motley sable volcanic crater
  10/04/12
take it and make him stop you
magenta pontificating box office
  10/04/12
Lmao!
curious station regret
  10/04/12
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Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/05/12
what state?
iridescent toilet seat
  10/04/12
lol
Mewling liquid oxygen faggotry
  10/04/12
lol
brilliant vivacious base travel guidebook
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Arrogant Smoky Circlehead
  10/04/12
fuckin' steve
Sienna Corn Cake
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shitlaw steve
Painfully honest laser beams institution
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Walnut fanboi nowag
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If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may hav...
Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/04/12
180
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Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/04/12
Lol xoxo
Big Dull Ticket Booth Weed Whacker
  10/04/12
The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitl...
Misanthropic Buff Incel Affirmative Action
  10/05/12
Couches aren't fixtures of any type.
rambunctious chad spot
  10/05/12
Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shit...
Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/05/12
This is so 180. Well done.
maniacal histrionic private investor
  10/05/12
tyty
Painfully honest laser beams institution
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180
Impertinent bat-shit-crazy goal in life
  10/05/12
180
milky hominid tattoo
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slimy cerebral hall wrinkle
  05/27/17
Bigfinderskeeperslaw
spectacular point french chef
  07/19/17
180 if real, 180 if not real
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  10/05/12
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Razzmatazz corner
  12/06/13
180 well done.
translucent quadroon church building
  12/06/13
Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looki...
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  05/27/17
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Fishy mediation
  05/12/22
Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing f...
Vibrant macaca
  10/04/12
why do you steal from your employer bro?
Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/04/12
I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I thi...
Vibrant macaca
  10/04/12
sweet good luck bro
Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/04/12
thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer
spectacular point french chef
  10/04/12
It's one of his alts
Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/04/12
Flame.
embarrassed to the bone soul-stirring principal's office
  10/04/12
cr
Painfully honest laser beams institution
  10/04/12
You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way ...
claret stag film
  10/05/12
Fuck yo couch! Buy another one you rich motherfucker! ...
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#pwned
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milky hominid tattoo
  12/06/13
Please sue. Best law suit ever.
brilliant vivacious base travel guidebook
  05/27/17
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indigo boyish lodge clown
  07/19/17
lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your...
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM
Author: Motley sable volcanic crater

I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM
Author: magenta pontificating box office

take it and make him stop you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM
Author: curious station regret

Lmao!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution



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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM
Author: iridescent toilet seat

what state?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM
Author: Mewling liquid oxygen faggotry

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM
Author: brilliant vivacious base travel guidebook

lol

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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM
Author: Arrogant Smoky Circlehead



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM
Author: Sienna Corn Cake

fuckin' steve

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

shitlaw steve

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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM
Author: Walnut fanboi nowag



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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.

You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.

I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717502)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM
Author: multi-colored salmon public bath

180

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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM
Author: Big Dull Ticket Booth Weed Whacker

Lol xoxo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM
Author: Misanthropic Buff Incel Affirmative Action

The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM
Author: rambunctious chad spot

Couches aren't fixtures of any type.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Let’s see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. I’ll go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.

Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721355)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM
Author: maniacal histrionic private investor

This is so 180. Well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

tyty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM
Author: Impertinent bat-shit-crazy goal in life

180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458)



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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM
Author: milky hominid tattoo

180

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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM
Author: slimy cerebral hall wrinkle



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM
Author: spectacular point french chef

Bigfinderskeeperslaw

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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM
Author: black razzle-dazzle fortuitous meteor location

180 if real, 180 if not real

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution



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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM
Author: Razzmatazz corner



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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM
Author: translucent quadroon church building

180 well done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212)



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: brilliant vivacious base travel guidebook

Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172)



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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM
Author: Fishy mediation



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM
Author: Vibrant macaca

Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718998)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

why do you steal from your employer bro?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM
Author: Vibrant macaca

I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

sweet good luck bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM
Author: spectacular point french chef

thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

It's one of his alts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM
Author: embarrassed to the bone soul-stirring principal's office

Flame.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634)



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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719909)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM
Author: claret stag film

You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM
Author: beady-eyed fluffy tanning salon national security agency

Fuck yo couch!

Buy another one you rich motherfucker!

Darkness is! Darkness is!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722501)



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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM
Author: Painfully honest laser beams institution



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM
Author: Bipolar Charcoal Brunch



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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM
Author: #pwned



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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM
Author: milky hominid tattoo



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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM
Author: brilliant vivacious base travel guidebook

Please sue. Best law suit ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168)



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM
Author: indigo boyish lodge clown



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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM
Author: Geriatric native milk

lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893)



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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM
Author: Walnut fanboi nowag



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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM
Author: お尻のほっぺた (βœ…πŸ‘)



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