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rating poasters as bizarre classical music from the 20th/21st centuries

mostly solo piano.
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
requesting Chopin pls
Razzle-dazzle Azure Famous Landscape Painting Jewess
  01/17/26
Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to ...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
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Umber property
  01/17/26
The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli --...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
wild, ty!
Umber property
  01/17/26
There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: yo...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
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sticky stag film
  01/17/26
that kind of music generally sucks, but content
Histrionic maroon set volcanic crater
  01/17/26
Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical f...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the u...
Histrionic maroon set volcanic crater
  01/17/26
The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
but content tp
glittery ape
  01/17/26
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arousing puppy fanboi
  01/17/26
Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
Jcm here
Twinkling trailer park
  01/17/26
Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtu...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
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sticky stag film
  01/17/26
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gold curious rigor church
  01/17/26
Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and o...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
this is completely preposterous
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
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gold curious rigor church
  01/17/26
I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
lmao
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
And the composer too. Almost forgot.
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
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sticky stag film
  01/17/26
This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out ...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/18/26
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infuriating bawdyhouse
  01/17/26
Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: http...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant
infuriating bawdyhouse
  01/17/26
Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt p...
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's ...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
180 thank you you used the phrase "obviously a cynical...
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some ...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano y...
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so ...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never...
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
ty
sticky stag film
  01/17/26
Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings o...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
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medicated lilac corner
  01/17/26
"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahash...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
...
amber big crotch mad cow disease
  01/17/26
is this a compliment? are we friends?
medicated lilac corner
  01/17/26
This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
I love you so much
medicated lilac corner
  01/17/26
...
amber big crotch mad cow disease
  01/17/26
Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beeth...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
...
cheese-eating carnelian meetinghouse
  01/17/26
I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/18/26
do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth interesting te...
Umber property
  01/17/26
I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this partic...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/17/26
understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is fr...
Umber property
  01/17/26
Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one ...
exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier
  01/18/26
...
Umber property
  01/18/26


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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:20 AM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

mostly solo piano.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596192)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:23 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Azure Famous Landscape Painting Jewess

requesting Chopin pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596197)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:27 AM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Chopin is from the 19th century, so we'll have to resort to an early 20th-century reintepretation of Chopin's etudes by Godowsky. Not particularly bizarre, just difficult to perform. Apologies in advance for any disappointment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuEa1XLEVSw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596202)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:24 AM
Author: Umber property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596198)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 10:29 AM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

The second nocturne from Sciarrino's Due Notturni Crudeli -- to be performed with rage per the composer's instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_dn3ORLq6s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596206)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:05 PM
Author: Umber property

wild, ty!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596339)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:37 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

There's usually no middle ground with this type of music: you either love it or violently hate it and think it's just noise.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596419)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:03 PM
Author: sticky stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596874)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:26 PM
Author: Histrionic maroon set volcanic crater

that kind of music generally sucks, but content

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596394)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:30 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Have to go with Ferneyhough then. He's obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan, but that's true of most composers with a similar style. Personally I can't stand any of his music. Enjoy! Just look at how pretentious the piece's title is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYMXbM0RCeU



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596404)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:45 PM
Author: Histrionic maroon set volcanic crater

180, the piece qua music isn't even that horrible, but the unreadble notation and beyond pretentious title push it over the top

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597223)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:57 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

The problem here is that this incomprehensibly complex style is taken to the point where I could create the same semi-random but pointlessly complex music despite me having no talent as a composer. That's why you can't take Ferneyhough or similar composers seriously. But they do want you to take them seriously. After all, Ferneyhough made it all the way to Stanford with this gibberish "music."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597685)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: glittery ape

but content tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597001)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:41 PM
Author: arousing puppy fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596425)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 12:47 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Sorabji's 19th etude. Oddly upbeat and unserious considering Sorabji's typically serious style: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFZYqLqBHOc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596437)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:17 PM
Author: Twinkling trailer park

Jcm here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596525)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:18 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Julius Eastman's "Crazy Nigger": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aR0naIp9eM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596530)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: sticky stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596884)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 1:20 PM
Author: gold curious rigor church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596538)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:55 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Hikari Kiyama's "Three Shells" for two hands and one foot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyy3CRuMQnc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596865)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:22 PM
Author: sticky stag film

this is completely preposterous

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596919)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:41 PM
Author: gold curious rigor church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596958)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:47 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

I'm Facebook friends with the pianist Ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596979)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: sticky stag film

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596985)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:58 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

And the composer too. Almost forgot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596999)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:48 PM
Author: sticky stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597089)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 9:19 AM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

This isn't even Kiyama's most preposterous piece. Check out his "Innocent Prisoner" for piano and voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIw8ykSmGU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598324)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:56 PM
Author: infuriating bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596869)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 2:59 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 4 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKfFaSWr4m0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596870)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: infuriating bawdyhouse

Nice, still discernible dramatic arc though dissonant

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596948)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:50 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Yes, I view this piece as being pushed to the absolute limit of dissonance and complexity without devolving into randomness. Actually it goes too far, but there's much worse out there.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596986)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:05 PM
Author: sticky stag film

I have attended one of the note changes in the Halberstadt performance of John Cage's As Slow As Possible. Rate me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/As_Slow_as_Possible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596877)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:10 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

I rate you as insufferable minimalism by John Adams. Here's his "Phrygian Gates": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixKnE9HqIU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596883)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:12 PM
Author: sticky stag film

180 thank you

you used the phrase "obviously a cynical fraud and charlatan" above and that is how I view Cage but others may disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596891)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:16 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

No doubt John Cage spewed out a lot of pure trash, but some of his music is actually enjoyable. For instance, his pieces for prepared piano.

Ferneyhough, the fraud and charlatan, is just SPS with no redeeming qualities. It's just unnecessary complexity and near-randomness that ordinary people laugh at (and should).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596904)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:20 PM
Author: sticky stag film

can you please link me to Cage's pieces for prepared piano you enjoyed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596915)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:34 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Haven't listened to them in over a decade at this point, so I don't remember specific pieces. The interesting ones had minimalist aspects IIRC. The problem with the recordings is the piano preparation and resultant sound varies wildly with each recording. So some recordings sound dull while others are more lively.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596940)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:36 PM
Author: sticky stag film

link in here please if any come to mind later on, I've never been able to enjoy anything by Cage but I'm open to reassessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596945)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:40 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAImmOqNzzs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596952)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:49 PM
Author: sticky stag film

ty

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596984)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:52 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Herbert Henck is a great pianist. I believe his recordings of Cage's works were my favorite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596991)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:53 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Damn just looked him up, and he died recently. RIP bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596993)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:38 PM
Author: medicated lilac corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596950)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 3:48 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

"Evryali" by Iannis Xenakis, specifically Takahashi's recording: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbUgAXt75s8

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49596980)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: amber big crotch mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597105)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:25 PM
Author: medicated lilac corner

is this a compliment? are we friends?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597348)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 6:49 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

This is my favorite piece by Xenakis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597403)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:24 PM
Author: medicated lilac corner

I love you so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597475)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 4:52 PM
Author: amber big crotch mad cow disease



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597104)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 5:02 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Clarence Barlow's variations on the last movement from Beethoven's last piano sonata, for mechanical piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gyJkYWdWWo (gets interesting after about 8-10 minutes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597137)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 7:00 PM
Author: cheese-eating carnelian meetinghouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597425)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:56 AM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

I hate to mention the same composer twice, but I can't think of anything more appropriate than Michael Finnissy's Piano Concerto no. 6 for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_Y1bZYi60M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598298)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:10 PM
Author: Umber property

do you know this? Fazil Say - Black Earth

interesting technique

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYtybgToH2Q&t=28s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597568)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 8:43 PM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

I know the pianist/composer, but I haven't heard this particular piece. Classical music snobs would probably thumb their noses at this piece, but the snobs can be ignored. All that matters is whether you like it.

The technique of modifying the sound of the piano by interacting with the strings themselves is not new. Henry Cowell first explored this around 100 or so years ago. John Cage took the idea further in his pieces for prepared piano, which I mentioned earlier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597648)



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Date: January 17th, 2026 9:45 PM
Author: Umber property

understood. and yes i understand this reaching inside is from cage - i like this a lot more than him though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49597813)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 8:54 AM
Author: exhilarant misanthropic market sound barrier

Reaching inside was Cowell's innovation. And Cowell was one of Cage's teachers, if I remember correctly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598296)



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Date: January 18th, 2026 10:26 AM
Author: Umber property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5823208&forum_id=2#49598425)