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Hedge fund manager "truly sorry" for 99.8% loss

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102356275 I don't know what that c...
deranged abode
  01/21/15
For the record, in Rudolph math it is a 50,000% loss.
sooty fanboi
  01/21/15
ouch
deranged abode
  01/21/15
That's 1000% right.
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  01/21/15
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Ultramarine partner school
  01/21/15
No. Investcorp is PE.
Chocolate cracking mexican selfie
  01/21/15
intergalactic NOWAG is alive and well
razzle lavender senate
  01/21/15
expected this to be an onion link.
learning disabled nighttime base
  01/21/15
No worries, he just needs to show a 3000000% return next yea...
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
Powerball currently at $142 million lump sum. He can buy 100...
deranged abode
  01/21/15
...
Ultramarine partner school
  01/21/15
now the question is does that include his 2% managemnent fee...
pea-brained vibrant double fault
  01/21/15
of course. you get paid that regardless
Pontificating forum queen of the night
  01/21/15
The guy gambled and lost. That's why people invest in hedge...
salmon at-the-ready field
  01/21/15
but that's not fair!
Blathering exciting meetinghouse
  01/21/15
This is what I don't get, this should be a fucking celebrati...
salmon at-the-ready field
  01/21/15
...
passionate idiotic son of senegal
  01/21/15
Uh no, people do not invest in hedge funds to lose 99% of th...
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
...
Ultramarine partner school
  01/21/15
That's actually the first thing I thought of.
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
...
Ultramarine partner school
  01/21/15
let me get my conclusion out of the way. you are a moron. l...
Blathering exciting meetinghouse
  01/21/15
Let me get the bort consensus out of the way. You fucking su...
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
Non-responsive
fear-inspiring really tough guy rehab
  01/21/15
non-responsive
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
it's not pretty obvious, dipshit a single investment increa...
Blathering exciting meetinghouse
  01/21/15
please stop responding to my posts. You are a dumb faggo...
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
maybe if you say pretty please or admit you are a moron ob...
Blathering exciting meetinghouse
  01/21/15
I am a moron Pretty please give a blowjob to your Glock.
swashbuckling garrison
  01/21/15
How do you know it had small upside?
fear-inspiring really tough guy rehab
  01/21/15
...
Ultramarine partner school
  01/21/15
CR. tremendous upside with very low probabilities = low expe...
slate flatulent shrine athletic conference
  01/21/15
except your post is exactly why anne is a moron anne says l...
Blathering exciting meetinghouse
  01/21/15
yes she must have meant low EV
slate flatulent shrine athletic conference
  01/21/15
No shit they don't invest to lose 99% of the principal. But...
salmon at-the-ready field
  01/22/15
*loses 99,800,000 of other people's money* *walks away wi...
Heady dead location factory reset button
  01/21/15
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sienna messiness
  01/21/15
To be fair this is nothing compared to the kind of shit that...
Iridescent beady-eyed school cafeteria pozpig
  01/21/15
Explain
Drunken Beta Giraffe
  01/21/15
This thing blew up pretty quickly and wasn't systemic. Can't...
Iridescent beady-eyed school cafeteria pozpig
  01/21/15
i guess he learned it's harder to do this w/o inside info.
Cyan people who are hurt
  01/21/15
LJL @ giving Raj Rajaratnam's trader any money JFC Guy...
slate flatulent shrine athletic conference
  01/21/15
holy shit. how bad must his losses have been to bet everythi...
Out-of-control galvanic tattoo police squad
  01/21/15
what's the problem with that? galleon group had great return...
Crimson hospital
  01/21/15
This is true as long as it isnt a ponzi scheme The issue ...
slate flatulent shrine athletic conference
  01/21/15
Wouldn't be surprised if he stole the money and said he lost...
fear-inspiring really tough guy rehab
  01/21/15
lol i thought this was gonna be about some snotty hf manager...
magenta locale dopamine
  01/21/15
This dude will be going to jail.
bisexual garnet set liquid oxygen
  01/21/15
...
Ultramarine partner school
  01/21/15
Update: He did not go to jail
deranged abode
  09/30/26
his investors should go to jail for their retardation
fiercely-loyal crackhouse alpha
  09/30/26
hope he's doing well
Burgundy Windowlicker
  09/30/26


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Date: January 21st, 2015 2:55 PM
Author: deranged abode

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102356275

I don't know what that comes out to in Rudolph maths.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158864)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:25 PM
Author: sooty fanboi

For the record, in Rudolph math it is a 50,000% loss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159027)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: deranged abode

ouch

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159052)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:58 PM
Author: bisexual garnet set liquid oxygen

That's 1000% right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159227)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:00 PM
Author: Ultramarine partner school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158892)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:37 PM
Author: Chocolate cracking mexican selfie

No. Investcorp is PE.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159481)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:03 PM
Author: razzle lavender senate

intergalactic NOWAG is alive and well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158908)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:03 PM
Author: learning disabled nighttime base

expected this to be an onion link.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158912)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:04 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

No worries, he just needs to show a 3000000% return next year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158916)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: deranged abode

Powerball currently at $142 million lump sum. He can buy 100k tickets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158934)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:06 PM
Author: Ultramarine partner school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158925)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:08 PM
Author: pea-brained vibrant double fault

now the question is does that include his 2% managemnent fee?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158936)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: Pontificating forum queen of the night

of course. you get paid that regardless

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158985)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:10 PM
Author: salmon at-the-ready field

The guy gambled and lost. That's why people invest in hedge funds. It's right there in the disclosure that you could lose all of your money. If you're not happy w/ dem 6% returns on your mutual funds and ETFs, you run the risk of this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158945)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:27 PM
Author: Blathering exciting meetinghouse

but that's not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159036)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:30 PM
Author: salmon at-the-ready field

This is what I don't get, this should be a fucking celebration of the current system. It shows why hedge funds are only for accredited investors and people who can handle a major loss like this. But instead we get the fucking JOBS Act trying to let everyone in because "that's not fair!!"

Investing is gambling. You want a chance for big gains, you get a chance for it. We can't guarantee everyone will succeed in the market.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159051)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:37 PM
Author: passionate idiotic son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159097)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:35 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

Uh no, people do not invest in hedge funds to lose 99% of their principal.

This guy obviously invested in something extremely risky with a very small upside.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159081)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: Ultramarine partner school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159111)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:41 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

That's actually the first thing I thought of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159121)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: Ultramarine partner school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159143)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:43 PM
Author: Blathering exciting meetinghouse

let me get my conclusion out of the way. you are a moron.

let's hear about how you concluded that the upside was 'obviously' 'very small'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159129)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:45 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

Let me get the bort consensus out of the way. You fucking suck.

HTH

It's pretty obvious that the risk this guy took on was not justified by the potential return.

The only way you lose this much money in such a small amount of time is by betting 100% of your capital on a single investment, which basically violates every fucking rule of responsible investing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159140)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: fear-inspiring really tough guy rehab

Non-responsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159160)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

non-responsive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159165)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:50 PM
Author: Blathering exciting meetinghouse

it's not pretty obvious, dipshit

a single investment increases risk, it doesn't reflect on upside if it tanks or on downside if it quadruples.

btw, you are a moron for thinking it does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159177)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:51 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

please stop responding to my posts.

You are a dumb faggot whose flame is tiresome.

-Everyone, ever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159185)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:55 PM
Author: Blathering exciting meetinghouse

maybe if you say pretty please

or admit you are a moron

obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159211)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:57 PM
Author: swashbuckling garrison

I am a moron

Pretty please give a blowjob to your Glock.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159224)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:47 PM
Author: fear-inspiring really tough guy rehab

How do you know it had small upside?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159154)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:25 PM
Author: Ultramarine partner school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159393)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:31 PM
Author: slate flatulent shrine athletic conference

CR. tremendous upside with very low probabilities = low expected value

Like betting on the Knicks to win the NBA finals right now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159441)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:45 PM
Author: Blathering exciting meetinghouse

except your post is exactly why anne is a moron

anne says low upside, you say the opposite

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159535)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 5:16 PM
Author: slate flatulent shrine athletic conference

yes she must have meant low EV

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159704)



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Date: January 22nd, 2015 12:41 PM
Author: salmon at-the-ready field

No shit they don't invest to lose 99% of the principal. But that's always a possibility and always disclosed as such. You also, quite clearly don't know what upside means.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27164129)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:14 PM
Author: Heady dead location factory reset button

*loses 99,800,000 of other people's money*

*walks away with $6,000,000 in salary*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158977)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:15 PM
Author: sienna messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27158984)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:34 PM
Author: Iridescent beady-eyed school cafeteria pozpig

To be fair this is nothing compared to the kind of shit that caused ITE (see AIG, Bear Stearns, etc)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159067)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:38 PM
Author: Drunken Beta Giraffe

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159103)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:41 PM
Author: Iridescent beady-eyed school cafeteria pozpig

This thing blew up pretty quickly and wasn't systemic. Can't say that about ITE, and yet those bastards made off with a mint and didn't give a fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159115)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:39 PM
Author: Cyan people who are hurt

i guess he learned it's harder to do this w/o inside info.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159109)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: slate flatulent shrine athletic conference

LJL @ giving Raj Rajaratnam's trader any money

JFC

Guy apparently gambled ALL his remaining AUM on short dated out of the money S&P calls banking on a huge run up before christmas

Instead the S&P cratered through mid december and dude lost it all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159162)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:02 PM
Author: Out-of-control galvanic tattoo police squad

holy shit. how bad must his losses have been to bet everything? he must have been ready to killlself the week before christmas.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159248)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:10 PM
Author: Crimson hospital

what's the problem with that? galleon group had great returns. i would happily give my money to a hedge fund that aggressively used inside information to trade. the risk doesn't fall on the fund investors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159299)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:30 PM
Author: slate flatulent shrine athletic conference

This is true as long as it isnt a ponzi scheme

The issue is that Raj was the one wheeling and dealing. This dude was just his trade execution monkey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159430)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 3:48 PM
Author: fear-inspiring really tough guy rehab

Wouldn't be surprised if he stole the money and said he lost it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159164)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:00 PM
Author: magenta locale dopamine

lol i thought this was gonna be about some snotty hf manager pretending to care about the fact that almost no americans can have houses, families, cars, retirements, decent lives, regular season nfl tickets, or cable tv anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159235)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:03 PM
Author: bisexual garnet set liquid oxygen

This dude will be going to jail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159255)



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Date: January 21st, 2015 4:27 PM
Author: Ultramarine partner school



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#27159407)



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Date: September 30th, 2026 2:04 PM
Author: deranged abode

Update: He did not go to jail

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#50162383)



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Date: September 30th, 2026 2:32 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal crackhouse alpha

his investors should go to jail for their retardation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#50162417)



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Date: September 30th, 2026 2:50 PM
Author: Burgundy Windowlicker

hope he's doing well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2788137&forum_id=2#50162458)