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Obvious takeaway from the injunction case is Sup Court should get off its ass
| ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, | 06/28/25 |
| hank_scorpio | 06/28/25 |
| ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, | 06/28/25 |
| hank_scorpio | 06/28/25 |
| Gorgeous Mamdani | 06/28/25 |
| hank_scorpio | 06/28/25 |
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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:02 PM Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, "Oh no - what should we do during the 3 years from the point where the president passes a questionable law to where we weigh in on it! We don't really know, but the district court shouldn't be issuing a universal injunction!"
I dunno - maybe if we're trying to figure out if 10 million people are actually citizens of this country you could just weigh in on it immediately rather than make them go through 2 prolonged scrimmage trials? |
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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:06 PM Author: hank_scorpio you do understand that in the absence of a trial of some sort you cannot establish facts, which are necessary for a determination, the issue with injunctions is that they are done on a preliminary basis without bothering to do the part where you figure out wtf is true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744250&forum_id=2#49057242) |
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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:10 PM Author: ........,,,,,,......,.,.,.,,,,,,,,,, What facts do you need to establish to determine if an EO is constitutional or not?
Not being sarcastic I just don't get how it applies to student loan forgiveness or birthright citizenship.
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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:15 PM Author: hank_scorpio a great many policies may be unconstitutional "as applied" and that certainly requires a factual finding, the very high level stuff does require less but you still can't just assume everything the plaintiff says is true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744250&forum_id=2#49057261) |
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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:11 PM Author: Gorgeous Mamdani The law should create a mechanism where facts or evidence can be established short of a trial at a hearing or something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744250&forum_id=2#49057250) |
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Date: June 28th, 2025 11:13 PM Author: hank_scorpio that would just be a trial by another name (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5744250&forum_id=2#49057254) |