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Prole tell: using a debit card
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:06 PM Author: spectacular sadistic mediation dingle berry (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103571) |
Date: July 15th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: salmon arousing immigrant boltzmann Also carrying a credit card balance after your early 20s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103598) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Cream corner background story try again. prole tell: not having ur parents pay ur credit card bills when ur in college to prevent you from paying kikes 40% APR (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103636) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Glittery Garrison Patrolman Thinking there’s a life phase in which it makes sense to pay 20% interest on consumer purchases is a huge prole tell. Signals working a below-subsistence job which is deeply shameful, and even worse lack of financial education and prole boomer parents who themselves over-consumed and can’t spot their kid a few grand to get started. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103648) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:48 PM Author: Cream corner background story you said it better than i did (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103691) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:59 PM Author: Thirsty really tough guy kitty all jobs are below subsistence your choice is either jew daycare or delivering food to people attending jew daycare (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103715) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:16 PM Author: spectacular sadistic mediation dingle berry cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103913) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:21 PM Author: salmon arousing immigrant boltzmann I mean, I can kind of excuse college kids for being dumb and getting in over their head with credit card debt. It's not a great look for sure, but not sure I'd call it prole.
A 40 year old adult with credit card debt = huge prole tell, though. |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:24 PM Author: spectacular sadistic mediation dingle berry There are no two ways about it. It is deeply prole not to have had parents who drilled into you early in life that it is retarded and shameful ever to carry a balance with a credit card company. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103942) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 11:45 PM Author: Cream corner background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104801) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:17 PM Author: crawly domesticated bawdyhouse brethren Because every 18-year-old always does everything that their parent says. Especially if the 18-year-old is carrying a balance because they burned all of their allowance on margarita shots three weeks into the semester. Yes, carrying a credit card balance at any age is definitely a prole mindset. But there have probably been some non-proles who briefly carried credit card balances when they were young simply due to an underdeveloped prefrontal cortex who stopped doing stupid shit when they grew up. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49106203) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 5:46 PM Author: Hao Di Partners LLP You’re equating doing something your parents tell you not to do because it’s dangerous (which, yes, lots of teens will end up doing because they discount risk and their parents’ judgment of risk) and doing something which any non-prole parents will have successfully conveyed to their children is hilariously, over-the-top, absurdly retarded and embarrassing. Children who grew up in non-prole households categorize credit card debt as something similar to shitting your pants. It’s just a retarded thing to do and you’d be ashamed if anyone found out you did it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49117027) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:23 PM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band unlike most ppl, we don't pay for things like food on credit. that's just stupid. i'm not paying interest on something i am going to shit out 12 hours later. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103619) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: Amber internet-worthy center cuckoldry why would you ever pay interest on cc charges? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103637) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:43 PM Author: crimson hall I don't understand how people don't understand that you can use credit cards for benefits and consumer protection and also never pay a penny of interest. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103985) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:11 PM Author: Mind-boggling Parlour Community Account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104197) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:20 PM Author: crawly domesticated bawdyhouse brethren TSINAH knows another way to never pay a penny in interest on a credit card. Although his approach may have negative impact on one's credit score (and may also cause difficulties being admitted to the bar in Michigan). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49106209) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Cream corner background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49106231) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 9:10 PM Author: Bonkers nighttime pozpig pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104507) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:34 PM Author: aromatic meetinghouse Yeah but these (((benefits))) and protections shouldn't even be necessary. It's a usury trap. It usually catches those out of work and/or sick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49107142) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:30 PM Author: Cream corner background story lol is this some boomer schtick? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103638) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band why put things on cc and then have to pay a bill (paying for postage, risking forgetting to pay on time, getting hit with hidden annual fees) when you can just pay immediately out of checking? we don't need to pay for things on credit since we have money. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103647) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:32 PM Author: Buck-toothed duck-like selfie sex offender Postage?1!?! lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103811) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:14 PM Author: blathering embarrassed to the bone home trust fund How else is he supposed to mail in the cashier's cheque? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104213) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:57 PM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band tOcq (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49106160) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 7:38 PM Author: Orchid beady-eyed stage digit ratio (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49107157) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 11:46 PM Author: Cream corner background story the postage thing is bad flame, breh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104802) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 8:40 AM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band hidden annual fees was much funnier imo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49105201) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:27 PM Author: Cream corner background story could have added identity theft or some other boomer crap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49105908) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 2:50 PM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band Will do on next revision thank (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49106145) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:29 PM Author: Cream corner background story (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49106233) |
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Date: July 20th, 2025 5:49 PM Author: Kenneth Play (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49117033) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 1:25 PM Author: Sienna bull headed address 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49105902) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:31 PM Author: Ruby appetizing travel guidebook school π¨π¨RETARD ALERT π¨ π¨ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103640) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band lol @ you paying interest on hamburgers from McD's |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Gay university this may blow your mind, but not only do i not pay interest on my credit card, they pay *me* to use it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103645) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:33 PM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band we normally don't even use our cards, actually. as a matter of fact, AMEX called a couple of months ago asking if we needed a replacement card because they figured we must have lost it and that's why we haven't been using it. *digs trench* |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:36 PM Author: Frozen disturbing goyim sandwich (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103661) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:34 PM Author: Frisky racy nursing home mental disorder Dumbs don’t know they are losing money (or loosing money, in their parlance) by paying cash or whatever the current prole wisdom is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103814) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:09 PM Author: swollen location giraffe wow you are actually done here. fulano outted as a retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103736) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:18 PM Author: navy hot set he's brown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103773) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 9:17 AM Author: Razzle opaque rehab place of business there is literally zero % chance this subthread is flame. fulano is straight as an arrow and would never fuck with people. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49105290) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: Turquoise useless haunted graveyard ? You use the CC for the liability protection in case it's hacked or stolen. You are using the bank's money, that's what credit is.
Then you just pay for your charges online when due using the checking account. My bank let me not even be issued a debit card.
For cash, get an advance off the credit card at the ATM, maybe using the bank ATM to avoid an immediate fee from the machine. You don't want to use a private ATM not tied to a bank unless you've got no other choice.
Then immediately transfer from checking to cover the whole balance so it doesn't assess interest, which is very high for cash advances. |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:58 PM Author: Thirsty really tough guy kitty Is this because you eat poop? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104348) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 8:05 PM Author: Exciting knife church building Flame poast? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104363) |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 5:56 AM Author: Stubborn Naked Elastic Band http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1405823&forum_id=2#15887003)
I don't think she was flame but she was very interesting |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 3:32 PM Author: Cream corner background story made 5 debit purchases on a chase debit card to get a $750 account opening bonus once. does that make me prole lol?
also i think ive had to use a debit card a couple times for various government office purchases - like copy of a marriage or birth cert or DMV payment. |
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Date: July 16th, 2025 3:00 PM Author: Big tan party of the first part hunting ground the account reward gaming is prole, but at least it’s high prole. having a “birth certificate” is just straight-up prole. |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:17 PM Author: insanely creepy keepsake machete indian lodge theyve been prole for decades. atm cards are prole now too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103768) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:24 PM Author: Frisky racy nursing home mental disorder Aren’t they the same fucking thing? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103789) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:28 PM Author: insanely creepy keepsake machete indian lodge i guess so. haven had one in like 15 years
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:37 PM Author: Splenetic Space Not having one is also prole. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103818) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:37 PM Author: insanely creepy keepsake machete indian lodge not really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103974) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:40 PM Author: Splenetic Space Let me guess, you "never carry cash"? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103981) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:44 PM Author: insanely creepy keepsake machete indian lodge i carry cash and never use it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103988) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:47 PM Author: Splenetic Space Also prole. Prestigious people are handing cash out left and right. I go through a couple hundred a week in cash tips and other sundries, plus a few thousand a month in bigger cash outlays (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103993) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 4:30 PM Author: rough-skinned gay wizard philosopher-king I only use Diner's Club. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49103807) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:15 PM Author: blathering embarrassed to the bone home trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104215) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 5:47 PM Author: At-the-ready thriller son of senegal after seeing some nightmares with stolen debit cards and bogus "fraud protection", I only carry credit cards and a non-debit card ATM card (that only operates the ATM).
Its funny to see me request this ATM only card at the bank - the clerks often have no idea what I am talking about and only a manager can be like "yeah we actually have those" lol |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:37 PM Author: Lavender mood old irish cottage I use my ATM card all the time but I've never tried to use it as a debit. This has honestly not even occurred to me but I will try it tonight and report back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104287) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:45 PM Author: hateful lodge Until right now, I didnt know that non-debit card ATM cards were a thing. Thank. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104315) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 9:10 PM Author: At-the-ready thriller son of senegal Nice. Been doing it for years. They never want you to get just an atm card, they want you to have a debit. Say no |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:36 PM Author: Lavender mood old irish cottage Yeah nothing screams old money like gaming credit card reward systems to maximize "hotel points" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104282) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:41 PM Author: blathering embarrassed to the bone home trust fund (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5750697&forum_id=2#49104307) |
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Date: July 15th, 2025 7:46 PM Author: hateful lodge Much agreed.
IMO, paying more than the most marginal amount of attention to credit card rewards, etc. is more of a prole tell than using a debit card. |
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