Here’s my biggest fear about why Trump will lose: systematic overcorrection
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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:03 AM Author: ceci n'est pas un avocat
Kamala will become president
this is not a mystery and these months of huffing and puffing are simply ridiculous
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203411) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:46 AM Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
High inflation outstripping most people's income gains.
Strange abandonment of the 1st amendment, embracing censorship in the name of social good despite being the origin of a great deal of misinformation.
Divisive social engineering techniques, including the open border disaster. American school districts and municipalities are now burdened with the high costs of accommodating the migrants.
Open judicial warfares on people deemed the opposition. See Trump prosecutions in New York, delegitimizing the legal system and undermining confidence in neutrality of American courts.
Entanglement in Ukraine, including allowing it to happen in the first place, and pouring hundreds of billions into an endless quagmire while can't muster a decent response to hurricanes in the US alone.
The list goes on. Look, I'm well off, I'm substantially richer today than I was four years ago. But it doesn't mean I still don't think we've veered off into a damaging direction under the Biden administration, or rather, whoever is running the show in the name of Joe Biden. It's not just economics. It's more than the stock market.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203540)
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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:39 PM Author: MartincourtMinicooper
> High inflation outstripping most people's income gains.
this specific post-covid inflation is largely captured by corporate profits
i have no problem with this inflation because my investments are growing fast since all that inflation is being funneled into stock prices
sounds like ur poor
or, put another way, the elites have tricked you and your fellow proles into thinking it's the fault of the government that you can't buy as much as you used to, when it's really their fault
enjoy being poor, i'll enjoy being richer and richer as you keep blaming the wrong people while i know who's really to blame and am making my financial decisions accordingly
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203911) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:10 AM Author: I'm going PUMO
It’s just a worry, there are no reason to believe this when polls are oversampling Dems by multiple points and the race STILL comes out close.
The fact is that there are some Trump voters that just are unreachable. Nothing you can do about that.
Meanwhile you can be certain Kamala voters are all accounted for.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203437) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:15 AM Author: I'm going PUMO
Tell me what they’re doing to fix that. I don’t see anyone saying things they’re practically doing.
Polls understated Trump in '16 & '20 largely because they understated his support among white voters.
Sure, they understated everyone, but whites really made the margin. Oh and btw, Trump is now gathering historic margins of black and Latino voters.
If that's the case again and there's no real error for non-whites, we're all going to be very, VERY wrong.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203454) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:50 PM Author: the walter white of this generation (walt jr.)
The main innovation this year -- which Nate Cohn at NYT/Sienna says that he and over 2/3rds of pollsters are using, even though it was traditionally a hallmark of low-quality pollsters --is weighting samples by 2020 recalled vote, i.e., making sure they have the right number of people who say they voted for TRUMP/biden in 2020.
This technique has historically been disfavored because some people don't recall who they voted for (that may surprise you, but bear in mind the undecideds that everyone's trying to reach tend to be huge fucking morons), and there's been shown to be a tendency for ppl to say they voted for the winner even if they didn't. This technique thus carries with it a risk of undersampling *actual* biden-2020 voters and thus shortchanging harris (e.g., think of a dude who was really a TRUMP-TRUMP 2020-2024 voter being counted as a biden-TRUMP 2020-2024 flipper).
This effect might be mitigated by biden's unpopularity, but mostly pollsters are just dead-set on not undersampling maga again, even if they err in the opposite direction.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203954) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 12:52 PM Author: I'm going PUMO
And they're showing a tied race with Trump as a favorite in the Electoral College. CR.
Now imagine the Trump voters that are unreachable.
https://x.com/Nate_Cohn/status/1845874626485793127
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203965) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:01 AM Author: Charles Tyrwhitt Dad
Guided by nothing more than instinct, I would not be surprised if exit polls on election eve announce a Trump pop vote victory. I'll mock Nate Silver and describe it as having 50/50% probability, meaning I'm not wrong either way ;)
In all seriousness, while a reasoned mind can't ignore the official data from the official polls showing a slight H lead or neck to neck, at the same time I also can't ignore most of the polling companies are run by the people with the same mindsets and biases as the idiots who created the Men for Kamala ad. And there's reading the tea leaves. The emergence of articles from D-leaning papers and publications talking about disagreements and tensions in the Harris campaign, tacitly admitting it's run by biased idiots who have no idea of an America outside college campuses. The emergence of articles in European presses featuring staid EU bureaucrats talking about how they can work with Donald Trump. You can sense the mood shifting in a way that the polls don't officially capture. There's an element of narrativism at play here and things are falling into place to make it happen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203592)
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:19 AM Author: There will come a poaster whose weapon is N word (gunneratttt)
cr.
as "unscientific" as it may be, there is some value is going with your gut. after all, all your gut instinct is your brain's analysis of a great aggregate of factors, many of which you don't even consciously realize. the same way you are probably right trust your senses that an area is dangerous even if it's not reflected in crime data.
if "trust the experts" always worked than trump would never have been president. just listen to all the "expert economists" talk about how great the economy is. sometimes it's better to just trust your eyes and experience. you can tell the economy sucks because you see people struggling to maintain a lifestyle that was obtainable in the past, regardless of how enthusiastically krugman points to GDP and the fraudmarket, or how many nobel prizes he is awarded.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203657) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 10:53 AM Author: Dissident Drama
According to Nate Silver who does exactly as you describe — tosses out polls he thinks are subpar — here are the current polls that matter. Parenthesis is the 7 day trend.
PA: D+0.6 (R+0.7)
MI: D+1.0 (R+0.9)
WI: D+0.8 (R+1.1)
NC: R+0.8 (EVEN)
GA: R+0.9 (EVEN)
AZ: R+1.6 (R+0.1)
NV: D+0.8 (R+1)
All we really know is that the 7 swing states are all extremely close and that they have begun to tilt towards Trump in the last week. Speculating about black box pollster methodology is inane. The polls are the polls we have. We won't know more until they're counted but this is obviously a very, very good position for Trump to be in while Kamala can't be completely ruled out either.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203559) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:08 AM Author: There will come a poaster whose weapon is N word (gunneratttt)
cr.
i just look for polls that have a large sample size and were accurate in the past. for example, in georgia uga said in 2020 that georgia was about even but leaning in favor of biden, which is exactly how the race shook out. and they're trump +3 right now.
i'm sure silver's model weighing polls based on quality has more rigor, but georgia doesn't "feel" even to me right now, +3 seems more in line with the attitudes i've seen.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203612) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:24 AM Author: Dissident Drama
If there's one thing I consider far out of my wheelhouse it's what people in Georgia are thinking.
But I did see on CNN that other day that they were saying Georgia had the most blacks going over to Trump than any swing state.
Kamala has a better chance in PA than Georgia because her only hope of winning is winning whites. Only mealy-mouthed whites could possibly go for her shtick. Embarrassing!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203668) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:38 AM Author: Dissident Drama
CNN said it was down to 75. There are lots of thinkpieces in the media right now about political realignment based on class. Poor whites and poor blacks vs rich whites.
If Trump wins GA but loses PA it will be because UMC whites in PA suburbs are adopting the mores of coastal elitism.
It's funny because we talk about is it a national election or an election of individual regions. I think for Democrats all politics is national. There's only one Accepted Point of View. But I think to everyone else it's more often a cornucopia of beliefs. Dems are all one way, and then everybody else is on a spectrum of beliefs.
Don't be surprised though if Trump's support with whites slips from 2020. They're getting faggier all the time.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203715) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:25 AM
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elaborate on this more
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203673) |
Date: October 16th, 2024 10:59 AM Author: 718-662-5970
i have seen lots of media about early voting in Detroit, Atlanta and Philly with insane turn-outs. Presumably all blue.
I have no idea if this is propaganda, outright falsehood, not significant, or if this is in fact a harbinger
If the latter, we could be in for bad news
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203582) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:09 AM Author: 718-662-5970
if i were a dem planning to steal, i would 100% do it with very early voting.
why risk the prying eyes when you dump thousands of votes on election day? Just run up a big fake lead in october, when no one is looking or caring.
"Well Kamala begins Pennsylvania with a 15,000 lead...." and by that point the shenanigans are weeks old and evidence is cold
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203619) |
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Date: October 16th, 2024 11:09 AM Author: I'm going PUMO
It's agitprop. Turnout is slightly down compared to 2020 in Dem counties.
You have to understand that Dem mail ins in 2020 cut into their early vote numbers. In 2020, mail ins essentially was the early vote. Combined, we see significant decreases in both requests and early voting totals for Dems and massive increases for Reps.
Dems are banking on huge Election Day turnout and it's unclear that they're going to get it.
In fact, I'd argue there is little to no evidence they will. It's cope.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5612476&forum_id=2#48203618) |
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