Remember the DC helicopter crash in January that killed 64 people, including 12 children?

Turns out the female pilot who was flying was given multiple warnings and was directly told by her male instructor/copilot to turn the opposite direction of the passenger jet to avoid a collision.

She ignored him and flew straight into it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885389)

https://archive.is/23Uv1

Why are cons saying the female pilot ignored instructions?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885698)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/business/dc-plane-crash-reagan-airport.html

Up to now attention has focused on the Black Hawk’s altitude, which was too high and placed the helicopter directly in the jet’s landing path at National Airport. But The Times found new details that show that the failures were far more complex than previously known.

The helicopter crew appeared to have made more than one mistake. Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course.

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But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eaves evidently felt obligated to repeat his instruction: The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend.

Captain Lobach said she would. But two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet — a dangerously high level.

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The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.

He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.

She did not turn left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885460)

https://archive.is/23Uv1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885700)

cons btfo here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885462)

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/27/business/dc-plane-crash-reagan-airport.html

Up to now attention has focused on the Black Hawk’s altitude, which was too high and placed the helicopter directly in the jet’s landing path at National Airport. But The Times found new details that show that the failures were far more complex than previously known.

The helicopter crew appeared to have made more than one mistake. Not only was the Black Hawk flying too high, but in the final seconds before the crash, its pilot failed to heed a directive from her co-pilot, an Army flight instructor, to change course.

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But even as it reached that juncture, Warrant Officer Eaves evidently felt obligated to repeat his instruction: The Black Hawk was at 300 feet, he said, and needed to descend.

Captain Lobach said she would. But two and a half minutes later, the Black Hawk still was above 200 feet — a dangerously high level.

====

The Black Hawk was 15 seconds away from crossing paths with the jet. Warrant Officer Eaves then turned his attention to Captain Lobach.

He told her he believed that air traffic control wanted them to turn left, toward the east river bank.

Turning left would have opened up more space between the helicopter and Flight 5342, which was heading for Runway 33 at an altitude of roughly 300 feet.

She did not turn left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885467)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885472)

https://archive.is/23Uv1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885701)

"The controller also could have done more.

Though he had delegated the prime responsibility for evading other air traffic to the Black Hawk crew under visual separation, he continued to monitor the helicopter, as his job required. Yet he did not issue clear, urgent instructions to the Black Hawk to avert the crash, aviation experts say."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885690)

Makes me think they routinely come this close to crashing daily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5717188&forum_id=2#48885736)