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Would lockdowns and mask usage have been more effective under a Dem president?

A lot of people are blaming Trump for the US having an explo...
Fighting toilet seat hospital
  07/09/20
There would be no “pandemic” under a Democrat pr...
bespoke fiercely-loyal plaza
  07/09/20
cr. possible there wouldn’t be any virus at all.
boyish ruddy office potus
  07/09/20
Bad flu season
useless market
  07/09/20
of course not, even being generous to libs there might be a ...
gold institution water buffalo
  07/09/20
Right, the Dem message was really muddled at the beginning a...
Fighting toilet seat hospital
  07/09/20
when most people have mild or *no* symptoms it was obvious n...
gold institution water buffalo
  07/09/20


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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:23 PM
Author: Fighting toilet seat hospital

A lot of people are blaming Trump for the US having an explosion in cases compared to other countries, arguably because he's encouraging states to reopen "early" (many EU countries have reopened) and has openly attacked lockdowns and mask-wearing. But this argument rests on the notion that Americans by and large follow the example of the President - which is why there was so much bluster over making him wear a mask.

I think the biggest factor in whether a person ignores mask and lockdown rules is their level of individualism. Freedom of choice is something Americans, particularly conservatives, value very highly regardless of who is president. If anything, it's possible compliance would be even *lower* if Obama or Hillary were in charge and wearing masks - just look at how the Tea Party behaved in the 2010s. If a heartfelt speech from the President urging Americans to wear masks was all it took, Obama would have ended mass shootings years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574340)



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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:25 PM
Author: bespoke fiercely-loyal plaza

There would be no “pandemic” under a Democrat president

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574350)



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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:28 PM
Author: boyish ruddy office potus

cr. possible there wouldn’t be any virus at all.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574372)



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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:50 PM
Author: useless market

Bad flu season

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574527)



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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:25 PM
Author: gold institution water buffalo

of course not, even being generous to libs there might be a 5% difference maybe but that's doubtful to say the least as they were clamoring for people to go to Chinese restaurants in March

but the media would also be responding completely differently and covering for them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574353)



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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:33 PM
Author: Fighting toilet seat hospital

Right, the Dem message was really muddled at the beginning and really only solidified once Trump took his stance.

One (untrue) claim they harped on then was that Trump axed some pandemic response team in 2018. Turns out most were just reassigned. But if it had remained and even been expanded under a Dem president, would it have really moved the needle in numbers of cases or deaths? Doesn't seem like hiring staff would have done anything about Americans' individual decisions to disobey the lockdown and mask laws, or even the PPE shortage.

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-trump-fired-pandemic-team/partly-false-claim-trump-fired-pandemic-response-team-in-2018-idUSKBN21C32M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574413)



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Date: July 9th, 2020 1:38 PM
Author: gold institution water buffalo

when most people have mild or *no* symptoms it was obvious nothing could really be done

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4580086&forum_id=2#40574441)