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How did they make the European Theatre of WW2 cinematic universe so compelling
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:39 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) But nobody cares about the rest of it? You could cure insomnia with non-european Theatre Films and literature:
Patton 1st half: OK Patton 2nd half: A triumph
The Bridge on the River Kwai: đ´ Tora! Tora! Tora! đ´ Windtalkers đ´ Midway đ´ Band of Brothers: A Triumph The Thin Red Line: Lol |
Date: June 16th, 2025 9:43 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) Fall of the Philippines (1941–1942) Specifically the Battle of Bataan & Corregidor U.S. Army personnel captured: ⤠About 23,000k U.S. troops ⤠Plus ~65,000k Filipino troops (Philippine Scouts / Commonwealth Army) ⤠Total: ~78,000k prisoners
Bataan Death March: ⤠Forced 65-mile march to prison camps under brutal conditions ⤠~600–1,000 U.S. soldiers died en route ⤠~5,000–10,000 Filipino deaths
Why it’s boring (cinematically):
No heroic victory — just hunger, disease, retreat, and collapse
Mostly artillery duels, starvation rations, and malaria
Command indecision (MacArthur fled to Australia)
Ended in white flags, not explosions
The true horror came after surrender, which Hollywood rarely dramatizes well |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:45 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) The Battle of Rzhev (1942–1943) Also known as: “The Rzhev Meat Grinder” đ Why It’s Massive Casualties:
Red Army: 500,000–1,000,000+
Wehrmacht: 300,000–400,000
Fought in waves from January 1942 to March 1943
Multiple offensives, each with tens of thousands killed
Hundreds of divisions rotated in and out
More soldiers died here than in the entire Western Front of WWII
đ´ Why It’s Boring No clear start or end — it’s a series of attritional meat grinder pushes
No strategic turning point — Germany held Rzhev, then chose to withdraw
The landscape: frozen forests and mud plains
Fighting: constant artillery barrages, trench warfare, failed assaults
No iconic commanders, speeches, or photos — even Soviet propagandists didn’t know what to say
Overshadowed by Stalingrad, even though it was bloodier
đĢĨ How Forgotten Is It? Soviet veterans called themselves “The Forgotten Army”
Moscow never held a Victory Parade for Rzhev survivors
Only recently has it been acknowledged, with a 25-meter bronze soldier monument built in 2020
No major Western films have ever portrayed it
đĒĻ Summary The Battle of Rzhev is the most boring massive battle of WWII — a months-long, million-man slaughter in fog, snow, and silence, with no turning point, no glory, and no clear victory. |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:47 PM Author: hank_scorpio pacific combat was retarded jungle warfare from island to island that just sucked and was scary, western front combat was mass movements of troops where you could legitimately be a cavalry officer and do great and that is much, much more romantic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022705) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:52 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) But wasn't it cool that they finally had a use for the Marines? It's like that feeling where some old thing you had suddenly becomes useful af. Like how we all had Game Boys we didn't play, and then Pokemon came out, and it was incredible. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022721) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: hank_scorpio tbf I think they handled the Tripoli stuff so they had been useful before (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022753) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 10:04 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) Yean and Game Boy had fuckin' Super Mario Land. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022769) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:48 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) đ The Most Boring Massive Battle in Asia: đĩđ Battle of Luzon (January–August 1945) đ Stats U.S. Army casualties:
10,000+ killed, 36,000 wounded
Japanese casualties:
~200,000+ (most from starvation, disease, suicide)
Filipino civilian deaths:
~120,000, mainly from Japanese massacres and collateral bombing
đ¤ Why It’s So Boring No central battle — just slow rolling fronts across mountains and jungles
Manila gets destroyed, but the real fighting is slogging through rice paddies, mountains, and inland garrisons
Japanese forces are cut off and feral, hiding in caves, not launching meaningful counterattacks
The “enemy” dies of hunger and malaria more than bullets
No big climax — Yamashita (the Japanese general) just surrenders months later in the hills
MacArthur is there, but even he can’t make it interesting
đĒĻ Cultural Footprint No famous movies
Barely a footnote in MacArthur biopics
Not taught in school
No iconic image, quote, or decision
Just 8 months of slogging inland from the beaches, fighting enemies already defeated in spirit
đ¤ĸ Bonus Boredom: The U.S. Army kept up mop-up ops until 1946, chasing down skeletal Japanese soldiers who didn’t know the war was over
There are more Japanese dead on Luzon than Iwo Jima, Okinawa, and Guadalcanal combined, and still no one cares
đ Final Judgment: The Battle of Luzon is the most boring massive land campaign in Asia.
It has:
The bloodshed of Verdun
The tempo of a DMV line
The narrative punch of wet cardboard
You won’t find it on screen. You won’t find it in speech. Only in field reports and body counts.
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:50 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK Ask an LLM to write plot ideas for a movie about the US invasion of the Philippines in WWII (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022714) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:54 PM Author: ,.,,.,.,,,,,,..................... I liked Midway. Never watched a single Pearl Harbor movie, though- no desire to watch the military equivalent of a sucker punch. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022727) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:55 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK It would be disrespectful to the troops to give an honest portrayal of the fighting in the Pacific Theater. We made an effort to shield Americans from information about those battles. We developed something called the "look away" doctrine that boils down to "don't let them see brains and intestines splattered all over," so Hollywood would have to challenge actual military doctrine, and to what end? To entertain you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022734) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:57 PM Author: cowgod (cowgod) https://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4286984&mc=5&forum_id=2#46847891 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022747) |
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Date: June 16th, 2025 9:58 PM Author: https://imgur.com/a/o2g8xYK cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5738976&forum_id=2#49022751) |