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So Protestants just never go to confession? As long as they’re “sorry”?

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floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
They don't have priests. Everyone in the church is laity, so...
Insecure jew
  07/10/25
Seems a little too easy tbh. Having to confess is a good rit...
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
It's not a ritual. It's direct succession back to the Lord C...
Insecure jew
  07/10/25
I understand it is a sacrament.
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
? jews confess once a year
Self-absorbed shitlib boistinker
  07/10/25
Hopefully they start with confessing their sin of rejecting ...
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
...
Insecure jew
  07/10/25
Did you confess that you’re a kike yet or still workin...
green gaming laptop chapel
  07/10/25
You don’t have to confess that after you’ve been...
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
Enjoy hell, kike
green gaming laptop chapel
  07/10/25
it's also a powerful means of social control that the priest...
maroon sanctuary coffee pot
  07/11/25
sacerdotalism has been a mixed blessing
floppy wrinkle
  07/11/25
their "confession" takes place during invitation t...
Provocative copper brunch trump supporter
  07/11/25
true, but they also get points for not masterminding a decad...
adventurous jade potus weed whacker
  07/10/25
The rate of molestation in the Catholic Church, while scanda...
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
sure, man. the group with all the latinos has the lowest rat...
adventurous jade potus weed whacker
  07/10/25
“Yes Protestants molest kids at a higher rate but the ...
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
i dispute that claim as well, fwiw. i would be interested in...
adventurous jade potus weed whacker
  07/10/25
It’s in a book I have at home I’ll look it up an...
floppy wrinkle
  07/10/25
ty. regardless, i continue to maintain there’s a mark...
adventurous jade potus weed whacker
  07/10/25
it might be possible with some statistics wizardry if you on...
yellow splenetic center famous landscape painting
  07/11/25
absurd!
Gaped Supple Indian Lodge
  07/11/25
My theory is that with the direction society has been going ...
Umber stimulating rigor mood
  07/11/25
....so the fags ran amok. who just joined?"
lilac field
  07/11/25
Extremely jewish thread
green gaming laptop chapel
  07/10/25
...
yellow splenetic center famous landscape painting
  07/10/25
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Fragrant Pervert
  07/10/25
Protestants confess their sins to God, and generally there i...
autistic mentally impaired rigpig
  07/11/25
For sure man and the grape juice is the blood of christ
Insecure jew
  07/11/25
Baptists are not traditional Protestants and Protestants alm...
Stirring Lay Messiness
  07/11/25
And Roman Catholics won’t even say confession and reco...
Stirring Lay Messiness
  07/11/25
Catholic teaching is the opposite - Reconciliation/confessio...
floppy wrinkle
  07/11/25
You are misreading the CCC. 1452
Stirring Lay Messiness
  07/11/25
Total Depravity tp
Contagious resort telephone
  07/11/25
I’ve no need of the kiddie diddling regional sales dir...
marvelous home
  07/11/25
Yeah the father didn't even need to send his son. That was j...
Insecure jew
  07/11/25
Papal bootlicker. The Catholic Church that I can see from th...
marvelous home
  07/11/25
I'm orthodox
Insecure jew
  07/11/25
I know nothing about your doctrine, but you Greek churchmos ...
marvelous home
  07/11/25
Yeah we get along great with prots imo
Insecure jew
  07/11/25
...
Multi-colored trust fund travel guidebook
  07/11/25
Presbyterians have confession every Sunday and are encourage...
vibrant slap-happy abode old irish cottage
  07/11/25
Yeah who needs an intermediate? John 14:6 is also just a met...
Insecure jew
  07/11/25
Incredible synergy with your moniker itt with all the snarky...
amethyst spectacular windowlicker
  07/11/25
Thanks having a lot of fun
Insecure jew
  07/11/25
...
Stirring Lay Messiness
  07/11/25
what about communion?
honey-headed library mental disorder
  07/11/25
Transubstantiation is a Catholic thing. Even the groups whic...
amethyst spectacular windowlicker
  07/11/25
You left out the vast middle of spiritual presence.
Stirring Lay Messiness
  07/11/25
Protestants will offer communion to Catholics. It is nuts.
clear painfully honest kitty
  07/11/25
why is that nuts? its just a 'remembrance ceremony' in prote...
floppy wrinkle
  07/11/25
Confessional lutherans believe in the real presence. I think...
autistic mentally impaired rigpig
  07/11/25
protestants launching communion wafers into the crowd like a...
lilac field
  07/11/25
...
don diaper
  10/08/25
It seems pretty easy to forgive yourself.
clear painfully honest kitty
  07/11/25
They're called "accountability groups," hth
trip shimmering gas station
  07/11/25
the whole thing is fucking based as fuck. you could slaughte...
Curious Spot Immigrant
  07/11/25
you must have genuine contrition in your heart, you can't ju...
floppy wrinkle
  07/11/25
ha yeah that faggot gets into heaven while the atheist who s...
Curious Spot Immigrant
  07/11/25
none of the catholics i know do it either
Soul-stirring sadistic stage
  07/11/25
extremely fair counter point
floppy wrinkle
  07/11/25
...
bill of goods
  10/08/25
The whole thing is ridiculous and there's probably no god.
evan39
  10/08/25
(catholic)
bill of goods
  10/08/25
?
evan39
  10/08/25
sorry that is just the sentiment i hear from many catholics
bill of goods
  10/08/25
prots shit and piss themselves in frustration when you ask t...
Real American
  10/08/25
Prots don't even think about papists
.,.,.,.,.,...,.,,.,,.....,.,..,.,,...,.,.,,...,.
  10/08/25
does prayer work or not?
no.1 clocksmasher
  10/08/25
if it didnt I dont see why it'd be a crime to quietly pray n...
Real American
  10/08/25


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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:07 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092074)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:09 PM
Author: Insecure jew

They don't have priests. Everyone in the church is laity, so there is no real means of confession

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092078)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:10 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

Seems a little too easy tbh. Having to confess is a good ritual.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092084)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:11 PM
Author: Insecure jew

It's not a ritual. It's direct succession back to the Lord Christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092092)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:12 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

I understand it is a sacrament.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092098)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:18 PM
Author: Self-absorbed shitlib boistinker

?

jews confess once a year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092117)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:20 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

Hopefully they start with confessing their sin of rejecting the New Covenant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092126)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:29 PM
Author: Insecure jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092154)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:23 PM
Author: green gaming laptop chapel

Did you confess that you’re a kike yet or still working on it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092133)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:28 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

You don’t have to confess that after you’ve been baptized into the RCC.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092153)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:30 PM
Author: green gaming laptop chapel

Enjoy hell, kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092155)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:07 AM
Author: maroon sanctuary coffee pot

it's also a powerful means of social control that the priests had over the laity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092691)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:31 AM
Author: floppy wrinkle

sacerdotalism has been a mixed blessing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092751)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 2:00 AM
Author: Provocative copper brunch trump supporter

their "confession" takes place during invitation to the altar/stage, where they "rededicate" themselves to God (prots making-do without proper sacraments)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092349)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:21 PM
Author: adventurous jade potus weed whacker

true, but they also get points for not masterminding a decades-long global child rape coverup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092128)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:27 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

The rate of molestation in the Catholic Church, while scandalous, was at a rate less than that of Protestant religions, far less than in judiaism, and less than that in the general population. The RCC has been an easy target and has received 99% of the criticism and press attention for something that is more prevalent in other religions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092150)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:35 PM
Author: adventurous jade potus weed whacker

sure, man. the group with all the latinos has the lowest rates of child molestation. in any case, what separates the catholic church from the others is the existence of centralized knowledge of and power to correct the abuses, which assets were instead used to a conduct a pederast shell game.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092159)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:37 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

“Yes Protestants molest kids at a higher rate but the Catholic Church is centralized!”

If thats convincing to you good luck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092164)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:39 PM
Author: adventurous jade potus weed whacker

i dispute that claim as well, fwiw. i would be interested in seeing it documented though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092170)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:41 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

It’s in a book I have at home I’ll look it up and post it tomorrow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092176)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:44 PM
Author: adventurous jade potus weed whacker

ty.

regardless, i continue to maintain there’s a marked difference between child abusers existing in various proportions (of whatever rank) among religions and those abusers essentially being abetted in their crimes throughout a given organization’s hierarchy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092189)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 12:01 AM
Author: yellow splenetic center famous landscape painting

it might be possible with some statistics wizardry if you only count cruddy evangelical denominations

it'd be absurd to say that lutherans or presbies are molesting more than catholics though

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092217)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:40 AM
Author: Gaped Supple Indian Lodge

absurd!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092642)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 12:24 PM
Author: Umber stimulating rigor mood

My theory is that with the direction society has been going and moving away from religious institutions many normal ish types that a century ago might have entered the priesthood would never entertain that now. Homosexuals were always present in the church structure, but the real men that kept them in check were no longer there (circa Vatican ii but really before that) and so the fags ran amok. At that point it with gays in charge and free access to young boys they did what they do. That said, it's a 2000 year old institution so of course shit gets off the rails from time to time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49093088)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 3:22 PM
Author: lilac field

....so the fags ran amok. who just joined?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49093735)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:22 PM
Author: green gaming laptop chapel

Extremely jewish thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092132)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:59 PM
Author: yellow splenetic center famous landscape painting



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092205)



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Date: July 10th, 2025 11:26 PM
Author: Fragrant Pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092148)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 1:44 AM
Author: autistic mentally impaired rigpig

Protestants confess their sins to God, and generally there is an option to confess to a pastor as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092339)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:11 AM
Author: Insecure jew

For sure man and the grape juice is the blood of christ

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092496)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: Stirring Lay Messiness

Baptists are not traditional Protestants and Protestants almost exclusively use wine.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092598)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: Stirring Lay Messiness

And Roman Catholics won’t even say confession and reconciliation is necessary for salvation (they say that for baptism and communion — the two sacraments recognized by most Protestants).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092596)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:20 AM
Author: floppy wrinkle

Catholic teaching is the opposite - Reconciliation/confession/penance is absolutely necessary for the forgiveness of mortal sins, which is necessary for eternal life.

Just look up "Penance and Reconciliation" in the index Catholic Catechism and see the many references to where this is established. There are too many references to count.

https://usccb.cld.bz/Catechism-of-the-Catholic-Church/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092721)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 11:49 PM
Author: Stirring Lay Messiness

You are misreading the CCC. 1452

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49095060)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 1:57 AM
Author: Contagious resort telephone

Total Depravity tp

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092346)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:22 AM
Author: marvelous home

I’ve no need of the kiddie diddling regional sales director for Pederasts International Inc. to intermediate between me and god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092511)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:28 AM
Author: Insecure jew

Yeah the father didn't even need to send his son. That was just a symbolic gesture too really.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092524)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:36 AM
Author: marvelous home

Papal bootlicker. The Catholic Church that I can see from the far edge of my property and that sits across the street from my Presbyterian church actively participated in the transfer and concealment of child molesters as late as the 2010s. Why would I ever bring my family to such a place, much less support it financially?

But hey, if your family’s spiritual needs are best met by a group of sexually deviant men who forsake, and so cannot understand, family, then you do you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092531)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:38 AM
Author: Insecure jew

I'm orthodox

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092533)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:43 AM
Author: marvelous home

I know nothing about your doctrine, but you Greek churchmos throw a great street fair. Amazing feta stuffed olives.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092544)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:44 AM
Author: Insecure jew

Yeah we get along great with prots imo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092548)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:06 AM
Author: Multi-colored trust fund travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092597)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:51 AM
Author: vibrant slap-happy abode old irish cottage

Presbyterians have confession every Sunday and are encouraged to confess in prayer consistently. We just don’t need intermediaries like Catholics.

Baptists and charismatic denominations don’t emphasize confession but I imagine they do as well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092568)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:52 AM
Author: Insecure jew

Yeah who needs an intermediate? John 14:6 is also just a metaphor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092570)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:57 AM
Author: amethyst spectacular windowlicker

Incredible synergy with your moniker itt with all the snarky comebacks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092579)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:58 AM
Author: Insecure jew

Thanks having a lot of fun

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092584)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:36 AM
Author: Stirring Lay Messiness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092638)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:58 AM
Author: honey-headed library mental disorder

what about communion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092585)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:02 AM
Author: amethyst spectacular windowlicker

Transubstantiation is a Catholic thing. Even the groups which take the Bible literally (eg Church of Christ) do not take that whole passage to mean they will eat the literal flesh of Christ. For them communion is symbolic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092592)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 9:37 AM
Author: Stirring Lay Messiness

You left out the vast middle of spiritual presence.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092639)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:04 AM
Author: clear painfully honest kitty

Protestants will offer communion to Catholics. It is nuts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092685)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:32 AM
Author: floppy wrinkle

why is that nuts? its just a 'remembrance ceremony' in protestantism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092754)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 12:18 PM
Author: autistic mentally impaired rigpig

Confessional lutherans believe in the real presence. I think Anglicans and Methodists do as well.

Confessional lutherans also have the doctrine of practicing closed communion. In practice I am not sure about how well this is achieved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49093052)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 3:23 PM
Author: lilac field

protestants launching communion wafers into the crowd like a t shirt cannon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49093740)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 4:51 PM
Author: don diaper (🧐)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49335039)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:03 AM
Author: clear painfully honest kitty

It seems pretty easy to forgive yourself.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092682)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 8:53 AM
Author: trip shimmering gas station

They're called "accountability groups," hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49092572)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 5:25 PM
Author: Curious Spot Immigrant

the whole thing is fucking based as fuck. you could slaughter 8 billion people and end up in heaven as long as you're sorry? lol ok, this god is a fucking maniac

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49094110)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

you must have genuine contrition in your heart, you can't just go through the motions of confession and claim a clean slate.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49094222)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 10:16 PM
Author: Curious Spot Immigrant

ha yeah that faggot gets into heaven while the atheist who saves 8 billion goes to hell? cool cult man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49094883)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 5:49 PM
Author: Soul-stirring sadistic stage

none of the catholics i know do it either

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49094206)



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Date: July 11th, 2025 5:52 PM
Author: floppy wrinkle

extremely fair counter point

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49094218)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:09 PM
Author: bill of goods



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334737)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: evan39

The whole thing is ridiculous and there's probably no god.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334768)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:18 PM
Author: bill of goods

(catholic)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334770)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:19 PM
Author: evan39

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334778)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:20 PM
Author: bill of goods

sorry that is just the sentiment i hear from many catholics

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334780)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:29 PM
Author: Real American (πŸΎπŸ‘£)

prots shit and piss themselves in frustration when you ask them to explain apostates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334811)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 3:58 PM
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Prots don't even think about papists

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5748987&forum_id=2#49334891)



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Date: October 8th, 2025 4:17 PM
Author: no.1 clocksmasher

does prayer work or not?

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Date: October 8th, 2025 4:48 PM
Author: Real American (πŸΎπŸ‘£)

if it didnt I dont see why it'd be a crime to quietly pray near a planned parenthood

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