http://famicomblog.blogspot.com/2011/07/swingers-best-video-game-movie-scene.html?m=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45820398)

The Gen Xers moved on from this phase of life almost exactly as the elder millennials graduated high school and thought they were the first to discover multiplayer console gaming when they plugged their original Xboxes into the Ethernet ports of their dorm to play Halo on the local network. People would name their Xbox their room number and bros would be scrambling up and down stairwells trying to tell that dickbag in 226 to get out of the game so that their buddies in room 514 could get in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45820834)

If you’d graduated to your own apartment, I think you’re on a PS1.

That’s what I saw at least.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45821438)

This guy is also Theorizing. It's a hot-button issue: https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/7t7a6x/despite_the_ps1_outselling_the_n64_3_to_1_why/

Anyone who questions the Narrative gets crucified: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/916387-nintendo-64/77935323

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45824654)

No. Either people overrate or underrate the 64. That being said, I find much better enjoyment in PlayStation games than the 64. Some of the 64's most well known titles are overrated to high hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45824811)

But that is usually a good test for early MS, isn’t it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45824713)

And my friend had a better computer and we would play the free sample part of games a lot.

I was in grad school and didn’t have any money. Also I was in Montana and there’s other stuff to do.

Also liked Unreal and Quake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45824708)

PlayStation 40,780,000[2]

Nintendo 64 <20,630,000[6]

According to Official Statistics, PS1 outsold N64 2:1 in North America. Does anyone fuckin' believe that? How many people had *just* a PS1? How did these people turn their backs on Nintendo/Sega just to play Ridge Racer and Crash Bandicoot? I fully understand that we all fuckin' gave up on the N64 after OOT came out but, and that JRPGs became appealing af to Losers in the tail-end of the Console Cycle, but that would just lead to Dual Console ownership. Who were these people with *just* a PS1? It had to be Gen X.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45825139)

https://digitaldreamdoor.com/mobile/video-game/video-games-top_10s_1990s.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45825298)

Furthermore, among the Loser cohort, Nintendo/SNES is heavily favored. Are these shut-ins not those individuals who would later become internet posters? Where did they go? My hypothesis remains that they are at both tails of the gaming age/IQ distribution, i.e. High-IQ olds (Gen Xers don't post nearly as much as millennials) and low-IQ late millennials. Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45826468)

The question remains, though: how could so many have turned their nose up at Mario 64? On reddit, cowgod is seeking answers. He wants to know what the hell happened.

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cowgod180

just now

Fascinating, and I can see why, but didn't you feel utterly deprived not being able to play Super Mario 64? I was the GOAT imo. Did you prefer System Link to couch multiplayer? I suppose if enough high-income households were buying two or more PS1s to engage in couch multiplayer, that would explain some of the sales gap as well. Even if these households had an N64 as well, they'd have 2+ PS1s.

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45826907)

The thing for me is that I just don't see how there were that many kids who eschewed Nintendo. Wrestling games/Goldeneye/Mario 64 were the salt of the gaming earth in those years. The PS1-only cohort just had to have been at the Tails of the Gaming Distribution, which is what we are both alluding to. i.e., younger, low-IQ millennials, and Gen-Xers. Core Millennials weren't turning their nose up at N64 in '96-'97. They added PS1s later, absolutely, no question. I understand what drew the UMC and the Lower Class to PS1 in their own ways, but why were they so repulsed by Nintendo? Discuss.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45826182)

EDIT: looks like they released it for N64 but it looks like ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45826292)

67alecto • GenX • 4m

I bought a super Nintendo so that I could play killer instinct, NBA jam, and Street fighter.

mossman • GenX • 11m

The last console I ever owned was an original NES. Living with roommates in the 90s we had SNES and Genesis. My interests were drugs, girls and skating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45827218)

LOL, LOTS of GenX guys had video game consoles in their apartments (or dorm rooms or parents’ houses) in the 1990s. I personally had/used the following consoles at different times in the 1990s:

*Atari 7800

*Sega Master System

*Nintendo Entertainment System

*Sega Genesis (and later Sega 32X)

*Atari Jaguar

*Sega Saturn

*Sony PlayStation

(I also had an Atari 2600 I used before the 1990s; it was largely replaced by the Atari 7800, which was backwards compatible with 2600.)

The systems I probably played the most in the 1990s were the NES (I played Tecmo Super Bowl in particular A TON) and the Genesis (my all-time favorite video game console). Many, many guys who were in college in the early to mid-1990s owned a Sega Genesis due to its great selection of sports games. (The NHLPA ‘93 scene in Swingers was included for a reason.)

I think most GenX guys probably played the NES (8-bit era), Sega Genesis (16-bit era), and Sony PlayStation (32/64-bit era) the most in the 1990s.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45827584)

Nintendo consoles from the early 1990s to the mid-2000s (i.e. the 4th, 5th, and 6th generations of video game consoles, the SNES, N64, and GameCube specifically) often were NOT as popular among late teenage and twenty-something year old males. There were two key reasons for this:

1) Nintendo’s kid-focused marketing

2) Other consoles’ (especially Genesis, PS1, and PS2/XBox) generally stronger and deeper sports game lineups, especially from EA Sports

With the first point, Nintendo’s marketing has always skewed young and often appeared geared towards kids roughly 13-14 years old and younger. During the 8-bit era (at least in the U.S.), the NES was practically the only game in town as it vastly outsold the Sega Master System and Atari 7800, so if you wanted to play the most popular games, you had to get a NES, even though marketing-wise it seemed to be targeted towards elementary age children.

That changed during the 16-bit era. Sega had games on the Genesis that primarily appealed to teenagers and young adults, and the company’s marketing was also targeted towards those players. They were a growing video game cohort at the time; many of those people were kids during the Golden Age of Video Games during the late 1970s/early 1980s and still enjoyed playing games. Sega and later Sony capitalized on Nintendo’s strong focus on targeting young kids and marketing towards them and their parents (an example being the “Sega does what Nintendon’t” ad campaign); that kind of marketing was (and is) unappealing to teenagers and young adults. The Genesis and later PlayStation were perceived by many older video game players as being the “cool” console option compared to the kid-oriented Nintendo consoles.

With the second point, prior to the 16-bit era there really was no such thing as sports video game franchises. In the 2nd and 3rd generations of video games (what we can call the Atari 2600 and NES eras), there were relatively few sports games released; a publisher would release a game for a particular sport, and in most cases that would be the only game they released for that sport for 3-5 years (or in many cases, the life of the system).

Electronic Arts (which had mostly been a PC game publisher) and to a lesser degree Sega changed that. From EA’s point of view, the 16-bit consoles were the first consoles powerful enough to represent the games EA wanted to produce. The company was turned off by Nintendo’s restrictive licensing requirements, so they turned their attention to Sega and the Genesis. Sega was amenable to EA producing games, especially sports games, for their system, and Sega themselves also poured resources into their own sports game division. The net results were 1) EA Sports and Sega started releasing sport-specific games annually, like the Madden (NFL/pro football) and NHL series, which due to their quality quickly became popular, and 2) EA Sports, who produced the most popular series in many sports, had games that usually were better on the Genesis than on the SNES (a trend that continued in the 32 bit era with the PlayStation vs the N64). This combination of factors made the Genesis (and later PS1) more attractive than the SNES (and later N64) to many teenage and young adult males (at least in the U.S.), and along with the marketing made the Genesis (and later PS1) the “hip”, preferred system to those players relative to the SNES and N64.

IMO, what I described above played a huge role in why Nintendo went from dominating the 8-bit era to essentially splitting the market with Sega in the 16-bit era to being far behind Sony in the PS1 vs N64 battle in the 32/64-bit era.

EDIT: correcting some grammatical errors.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45828741)

Also, it fucking had Tony Hawk lol.

Then again, Coolboarders had a Pentalogy and there was only one 1080, so PS1 wins. Accept it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45831891)

8h

I was born in 73 and had an Atari 2600 as a kid, but by the time the NES came out my parents thought I was "too old" for video games and wouldn't buy me one. I started saving money to buy my own, but by the time I had enough saved up I decided to spend it on a guitar instead and played that instead of video games all through high school and beyond.

I did start playing games again in my early 20s, but that was on the PC. When I did finally decide to get a console at end of the 90s I couldn't really justify buying two of them and the PS1 won out because it was a little cheaper, had a lot more games available, and I didn't have the nostalgia for Nintendo characters that someone who grew up with the NES and SNES might have.

Also, I'm an effete, high-IQ Gen-Xer or whatever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45828755)

You have like a weird fixation or something. Where are you going with this?

You don't have to answer, I don't really care.

cowgod180

This thread, in essence, is about Consoles. Particularly the Saturn. I think it was huge in grad schools in the 90s.

Hankjams

Where?

cowgod180

HYSCCN for Law, HRM for Econ, Williams and Harvey Mudd for Philosophy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5274878&forum_id=2#45836681)