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**ICE released 13 THOUSAND migrants into US convicted of MURDER in homeland **
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:01 PM Author: clear useless doctorate Michael Shellenberger @shellenberger
No matter your politics, these new numbers are shocking. Of the 7 million migrants that ICE released while their cases are being processed, 663,000 have criminal histories, 13,000 were convicted of homicide, 16,000 of sexual assault, and 1,845 face homicide charges.
1:58 PM · Sep 27, 2024 · 9.8M Views
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Date: September 28th, 2024 12:06 AM Author: adventurous toaster home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139479) |
Date: September 27th, 2024 6:03 PM Author: dead point So why were they released? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138643) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:04 PM Author: Vibrant hospital to vote for democrats (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138647) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:07 PM Author: French abnormal bawdyhouse and murder beautiful white female trumpmos (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138659) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 12:04 AM Author: cracking canary hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139475) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:05 PM Author: clear useless doctorate the letter from ICE seems to blame local law enforcement in cities that have passed laws against working with ICE to deport ppl but its unclear (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138652) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:25 PM Author: provocative water buffalo immigrant Lol
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:17 PM Author: clear useless doctorate this is absolutely insane (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138689) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:23 PM Author: Vibrant hospital exhibiting a severely disordered state of mind : affected with mental illnessaffected with insanity (see insanity sense 2) unable to think in a clear or sensible way : crazy nothing about this is insane |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:23 PM Author: Khaki pit turdskin *jews cheering* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138705) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:24 PM Author: alcoholic hall gaming laptop Trump needs to pound this until end of October. Incredibly damming/absurd numbers if true (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138711) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:25 PM Author: clear useless doctorate Cr but he has dementia and will instead talk about isreal no doubt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138714) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 7:03 PM Author: Beta misunderstood school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138812) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:16 PM Author: Amber kitty cat set cr but I don't recall him mentioning of any of this during his debate. Needs better prep. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139309) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 6:55 PM Author: know-it-all brilliant twinkling uncleanness volcanic crater lmaoing at the 1 guy convicted of "antitrust" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48138793) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 9:48 PM Author: Bat shit crazy white casino idiot (Antisemite) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139226) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:02 PM Author: impertinent milk That's not that far off from the total number of criminal homicides in the US per year, 22,000. And 13,000 is only the number who were caught, convicted in their home countries, caught by ICE, and had ICE find out about the conviction. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139262) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:38 AM Author: concupiscible spot tattoo So immigrants actually commit FEWER murders than US citizens! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139853) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:04 PM Author: aromatic peach chapel factory reset button ICE didn't release them, ICE found out about them and shitlib sanctuary cities released them despite ICE putting a detainer request. CBP is waving them in. ICE seems like the most demonized yet least effective and least evil law enforcement agency. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139267) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 10:22 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Yet again showing that xo has TTTSEF-level RC. This says the 13,000 murderers are not "detained" *by ICE. That's because they are in state prisons, not b/c they're roaming the streets.
Use your brain for two seconds -- the criminal convictions shown here are for convictions *in the United States. You think ICE can just call up El Salvador, and be like, "Hey can your run a crim background check on Hernando Martinez, aka Flaco, aka El Muerto? Oh, he was convicted in La Paz of murder? Okay, thanks!" |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:10 PM Author: French abnormal bawdyhouse Cr, these 13,000 murderers all murdered people AFTER they snuck into this country, you dipshits! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139386) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:14 PM Author: 180 blood rage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139397) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:20 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Fat lower rate than born Americans and likely the majority of the vics were other illegals. Obv not good, but at least you agree with me that the retards on Twitter and ITT who are misunderstanding this have SPS critical thinking skills? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139412) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:32 PM Author: 180 blood rage @SPS thinking skills, everyone is retarded nowadays, it sucks.
but um....cite for this rate being "lower rate than born Americans"? focus on the murder #'s |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 1:33 AM Author: Insane lettuce mexican 13,000 / 11,000,000. Whatever that is and compare it to overall US rate
Edit: https://nij.ojp.gov/topics/articles/undocumented-immigrant-offending-rate-lower-us-born-citizen-rate I fully acknowledge that every Trumpmo worthy of the title will rejoin, “those analyses are fake because our leader told us that illegals are violent criminals,” but there you go. |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 6:51 AM Author: Supple theater chad Why are you so fixated on not having a border that you would accept a net +13,000 known murderers in the country? Who cares what the rate is compared to Americans? lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139678) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:28 AM Author: tripping puce useless brakes titcr. EPAH is smart, he knows how to shift the discussion away from the obvious problem here onto a discussion of percentages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139834) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:29 AM Author: ocher rehab boltzmann It's extremely low IQ to carry on about murder rates. You can't be 13K/11M murdered by an illegal. And if said illegal wasn't here you wouldn't then be 18K/11M or whatever murdered by a citizen. You'd just be alive. Or not raped or robbed. Why are liberals so fucking innumerate? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139761) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:46 AM Author: exciting jew gaping 13,000 / 11,000,000 is a way higher rate than what is in your links for US citizen homicide (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139773) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 11:45 AM Author: 180 blood rage EPAH, my brother in christ,
1) first of all, original tweet referred to 7 million migrants, and 13k of those having murder convictions. not sure where 11 million came into the conversation.
2) your cato link says: "The homicide conviction rate for illegal immigrants was 2.4 per 100,000 illegal immigrants in 2015, which is lower than the homicide conviction rate of 2.8 per 100,000 for native-born Americans."
3) 13k per 7 million is a murder rate of 185.7 per 100,000. even if we go with your 11 million figure, that'd still be 118 per 100,000. see the issue? |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 12:13 PM Author: Territorial cerebral stain site epah is a legit freak of a human (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48140275) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 5:09 PM Author: clear useless doctorate 3 letter monikers absolutely dominating xo right now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141060) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:54 PM Author: 180 blood rage Plz respond EPAH. Sincerely,
Your favorite WOC, Kamala Devi Harris |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:10 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican We can all level up our RC and critical thinking skills, my friend. The 7 million refers to people who have at one time been on ICE’s docket over the last 40 years (see the NBC article olitp linked). We normally refer to “11 million” illegals living in the US. The 7 million referred to here will skew toward criminality, bc one of the primary ways illegals show up on ICE’s radar is when they are arrested. Make sense? |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:03 PM Author: 180 blood rage Hol up hol up - The 7 million is a FORTY YEAR statistic? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141588) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 11:33 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican That’s what the NBC article olitp linked said, relating some DHS statement. How many people do you think work for ICE? How could they possibly process 7M during the Biden admin? This is what I mean when I’m talking about “critical thinking.” Left, right, or center, you have to appreciate that the median IQ of journalists and Tweeters is around 110, and carefully consider the plausibility of the things they say. |
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Date: September 30th, 2024 10:00 AM Author: 180 blood rage fair enough brother. i've definitely seen some shockingly misleading framings of things in the past (e.g. the way that 5k/day migrants thing was framed by conservative media). I don't know why I'm still credulous enough to believe these media people are doing their jobs at all instead of just being a bunch of hacks (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48145605) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:05 PM Author: ocher rehab boltzmann 11 million is an absolute fraud and everyone fucking knows it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141595) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 11:35 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Your belief is that it’s higher, and therefore illegals have an EXCEEDINGLY low criminality rate? Fine by me if you wanna say there are only 13,000 murderers among 50M illegals, but you’ll probably want to make sure your leader is on board with that first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48142044) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 9:04 AM Author: ocher rehab boltzmann lol at u ignoring the fact that violent crimes aren’t committed in fractional shares. At least 99% of violent crimes by illegals would disappear and never happen if they went back and that’s all that matters. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48142557) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 12:05 AM Author: cracking canary hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139478) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 5:24 PM Author: clear useless doctorate He's not even right about that. The total includes migrants convcited in their HOME COUNTRIES OF MURDER but who ICE just can't locate here but are here.
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:23 PM Author: Titillating snowy french chef rigpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141663) |
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Date: September 27th, 2024 11:14 PM Author: 180 blood rage "lol cons! those criminal migrants didn't have criminal records known to us before they got here - they committed their crimes *after* being allowed into the country! haha, you tards!" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139396) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 12:06 AM Author: cracking canary hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139480) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 1:35 AM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Is it your perception that the Tweeter and these retards ^^ and all of right-wing internet has a correct understanding of what the letter describes? All of the tweets and posts believe that these 13,000 have been “released,” which shows that they’re fucking stupid and gullible. It’s like an army of DM bots. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139567) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 5:19 PM Author: clear useless doctorate Thats not true dumbass. NBC just did a write up on this and the total most definitely includes people who were convicted in their home countries, and it also includes people who are not currently serving time in prison/jail.
"More than 13,000 immigrants convicted of homicide — either in the United States or abroad — are living outside of Immigration and Customs Enforcement detention, according to data ICE provided to Congress earlier this week.
The immigrants are part of ICE’s “non-detained” docket, meaning the agency has some information on the immigrants and they have pending immigration cases in the U.S., but they are not currently in detention either because they are not prioritized for detention, they are serving time in a jail or prison for their crimes, or because ICE cannot find them, three law enforcement officials said."
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"Some may have crossed the border and then been released because Border Patrol lacks information on their criminal history. In many cases, the U.S. is not notified of someone’s criminal conviction until after they cross into the country."
https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/13000-immigrants-convicted-homicide-living-freely-us-ice-data-rcna173125 |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 7:47 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Lmao at your ellipsis. Anyway, your sense is that the title of ITT and the tweet accurately describes the situation? Neither the letter nor the NBC article identifies even 1 person convicted of homicide who was released by ICE. Try using your brain for two seconds—WHY would ICE agents (LE officers) detain a convicted murderer and then turn him loose? Because the got a direct order from Kamala, pursuant to her nefarious plan to destroy the United States? You guys are all gullible as fuck, and stupid on top. |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 1:41 AM Author: Sienna heaven when it says "released with conditions" - what do these "conditions" tend to be? anyone know? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139570) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 2:12 AM Author: Insane lettuce mexican With conditions that they show up for their asylum/other proceedings. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139587) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:20 AM Author: Sick halford They're sending their best.. murderers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139751) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:53 AM Author: Territorial cerebral stain site and some, I assume, are good people (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139783) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:29 AM Author: irradiated death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48139840) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 12:31 PM Author: sticky weed whacker Good thing Trump killed the bipartisan border bill that would have done an enormous amount to solve the immigration crisis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48140350) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 3:53 PM Author: cracking canary hell Oh yeah, surely the Biden Administration—which has heretofore ignored all of the many legal powers it already has to enforce the border—would happily deport these criminals if yet ANOTHER law allowing them to do so had been passed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48140802) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 5:07 PM Author: clear useless doctorate there doesnt need to be a "bill" to end this nonsense. all you need to do is tell border control to start rejecting people at the border. you can do whatever is necessary by executive action. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141055) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 6:29 PM Author: ocher rehab boltzmann The one that codified 2M illegals per year? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141250) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 6:42 PM Author: Territorial cerebral stain site (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141284) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:13 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican ITT I will compile the retards on the right who shared OP’s massive RC fail of believing ICE “released” 13,000 murderers into the public: (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141498) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:13 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican https://www.foxnews.com/video/6362556076112 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141503) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:14 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13902301/amp/migrant-murder-convictions-living-united-states-ice-stats.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141505) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:15 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Weirdly, predominantly Murdoch media 🤔: I wonder if it’s because the “journalists” there are dumb, or some other reason. |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:16 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican https://flvoicenews.com/tens-of-thousands-of-illegals-released-into-u-s-have-murder-sexual-assault-convictions-report/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141512) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:16 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Anyone have the tweet where that genius Elon fell for this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141513) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:28 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Found it, lol: https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1839747244561461495?s=46&t=cquaMUY_pkAxEK8MfE16iA Crazy that he’s not even as smart as the shitcon posters above who’ve acknowledged my point |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:17 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/sep/27/15000-killers-20000-sexual-assault-convicts-60000-/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141515) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 8:24 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Outrage that the network evening news aren’t repeating this fake news: https://www.yahoo.com/news/network-evening-newscasts-barely-mention-153134974.html “WHY ARENT THEY TELLING AMERICANS THE BIDEN ADMIN RELEASED 13K KILLERS INTO ARE COMMUNITIES?!?!” |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:24 PM Author: Titillating snowy french chef rigpig EPHA has convinced me. This letter from ICE with the stats will help Kamala! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141666) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 9:43 PM Author: razzmatazz zombie-like juggernaut legal warrant retard epah spiraling in this thread. proven wrong on his main premise and demonstrated he can't even do basic math. lmao. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48141731) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 11:35 PM Author: dead point Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48142046) |
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Date: September 28th, 2024 11:47 PM Author: Insane lettuce mexican Pardon? Can you elaborate on your comprehension that 13k murderers were released among us? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5602439&forum_id=2#48142074) |
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Date: September 29th, 2024 9:08 AM Author: Territorial cerebral stain site you see there were 13,000 convicted murderers at the border wanting to get into are country illegally
and Biden/Kamala let them in |