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9th Cir Opinion Explores The Meaning Of "OF COUNSEL"

“Of counsel” attorney for Plaintiffs, Alan Dersh...
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  03/18/25
Interesting On the facts I think I agree w/ Bumatay (and ...
the dirtbag left
  03/18/25
odd case you side with the gay pinoy judge
N904PD
  03/18/25
1) we should be scaring away this charade where big name boo...
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Agree. If you sign the pleading, you’ve signed the who...
Stephen Asspenis
  03/18/25
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the dirtbag left
  03/18/25
Lol what did he Geralt Rule 11'd for?
Post nut horror
  03/18/25
Amazing autocorrect
the dirtbag left
  03/18/25
haven’t seen this kind of scholarship on xo in years
dont run libs the crystal wardens see you
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>During this hearing, Dershowitz characterized his signat...
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9th cir rules against xo OFS COUNSEL schtick >To be su...
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Date: March 18th, 2025 7:49 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


“Of counsel” attorney for Plaintiffs, Alan Dershowitz,

appeals the district court’s award of sanctions under Federal

Rule of Civil Procedure 11. This case presents a novel

question for this circuit: whether and to what extent “of

counsel” attorneys are liable for sanctions under Rule 11.

We conclude that “of counsel” attorneys may be held liable

for sanctions under Rule 11 for signing a frivolous

complaint. But because this case poses a question of first

impression, we decline to give this rule retroactive effect, but

will apply this rule to all attorney “of counsel” designations

made after publication of this opinion.

https://cdn.ca9.uscourts.gov/datastore/opinions/2025/03/14/23-16023.pdf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758035)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:08 AM
Author: the dirtbag left (No Future)

Interesting

On the facts I think I agree w/ Bumatay (and I say this as someone with no love at all for Dersh, and even less, somehow, for Lake): The intent of Rule 11 is to punish and deter frivolous, bad-faith, or otherwise objectionable attorney conduct. It sounds like nobody claims Dershowitz's actual contributions to the pleadings were themselves objectionable or incorrect.

Majority seems like shitlibs trying to scare big names away from litigation they don't like. They make this argument, "oh, well a big name can influence a decision maker," but judges tell prominent lawyers to eat shit all the time.

That said, I would have assumed that all parties on a pleading generally were considered to have shared responsibility for a pleading they're noted as counsel on, and asking a lawyer to be aware of what they're signing up to* seems fair (even if it's theoretically 'onerous' to do so).

*Which, in this case, is probably Lake et al spewing a bunch of QAnon retard horseshit and the 9th Circuit shitlibs saying 'hold my beer' and spewing a ton of retarded shitlib bullshit back at them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758046)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:10 AM
Author: N904PD

odd case you side with the gay pinoy judge

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758052)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:17 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


1) we should be scaring away this charade where big name boomers get paid a ton to put their names on briefs. fuck boomers.

2) if your name is on a brief, the presumption should be you're responsible for the brief. it's retarded to be able to claim after the fact that you only wrote one page of the brief and have no idea what the rest of the brief says. if you only wrote one page, then maybe you should drop a footnote on the cover page next to your name saying you only wrote one page, and admitting that this whole thing is a fraudlies charade



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758076)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:26 AM
Author: Stephen Asspenis ((zurich is stained))

Agree. If you sign the pleading, you’ve signed the whole thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758092)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:32 AM
Author: the dirtbag left (No Future)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758106)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:19 AM
Author: Post nut horror

Lol what did he Geralt Rule 11'd for?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758082)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 8:33 AM
Author: the dirtbag left (No Future)

Amazing autocorrect

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758107)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 9:27 AM
Author: dont run libs the crystal wardens see you

haven’t seen this kind of scholarship on xo in years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758207)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 9:29 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,




(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758213)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 9:31 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


>During this hearing, Dershowitz characterized his signatures as “counsel” instead of as “of counsel” as “a mistake,” and he testified that his principal contribution to the FAC was paragraph eight

lol'ed thinking of firms like OMM which have counsel and of counsel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758217)



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Date: March 18th, 2025 9:32 AM
Author: ...,,..;...,,..,..,...,,,;..,


9th cir rules against xo OFS COUNSEL schtick

>To be sure, “of counsels” and other specialized attorneys are not immune from Rule 11 sanctions.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5695863&forum_id=2#48758220)