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What is the point of conference championship games in a 12 team playoff?
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Date: November 29th, 2023 12:59 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut Like why would a 12-0 michigan even play their starters against Iowa they are already in now if this season were a 12 team playoff? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112904) |
Date: November 29th, 2023 1:05 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112927) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:06 PM Author: violent coldplay fan state money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112929) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: charismatic church building Seeding I suppose? Top4 get a bye don’t they (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112932) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:26 PM Author: insane free-loading station Yes, and you have to be a conference champ. So Georgia couldn’t get top 4 seed if they lost to bama. Also Notre Dame <><><>NOBYE<><><> (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114238) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:33 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Lol didn’t realize that. The 12 team playoff is awesome, I don’t care how much all of you fags complain. We’re righting past wrongs by rigging the system against ND on top of all the other awesome games that it produces and we would not have without it. And it also does away with these gay retarded last two weeks of the season where the CFP committee and all fans of the top 15 teams make their stupid arguments for their team and then tOSU gets in for no good reason. Bring on the playoff, and settle this shit on the field at long last. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114264) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:37 AM Author: aquamarine hell milk ND's no bye is a feature, not a bug. It means they never have to join a conference. The CCG is a +1 game. But imagine if Ohio State and Michigan had to rematch in the CCG. Michigan wins, bye -> Notre Dame, no bye = same number of games. Ohio State loses, no bye -> Notre Dame, no bye = Ohio State plays extra game. It's actually incredibly cunning by Notre Dame to create the playoff structure like this. *and* it is highly likely they'll often get to host those game$. |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: Mustard pit To win a championship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112934) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:08 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut Who won the NFC west 3 years ago? Nobody knows (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112942) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: Mustard pit A division championship isn't on the same level as a conference championship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112960) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut It will be (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112963) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: Mustard pit Being the best of 4 teams isn't comparable to being the best of 18. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112970) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut You are too stupid to post here it's not worth engaging with you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112981) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:21 PM Author: Mustard pit I hate playoff expansion, but conference championships will always mean something. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47113012) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 2:55 PM Author: Tan diverse corn cake (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47113449) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: Wonderful associate meetinghouse Because it acts like an extra playoff game which is financially lucrative for kikes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112935) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:07 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut Cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112936) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:08 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine It should be a 8 team playoff with the championship games as de-facto play in games
12 team is just a stepping stone to a 16 team playoff in which the CCGs will end up being just an actual round in the playoff |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:11 PM Author: harsh pink school people who are hurt This is why 12 is too many. Conference or even division championships are the first round
4 or 6 teams would be way better |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:12 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut FCS playoffs work best & they don't have conference championship games (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112961) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:13 PM Author: harsh pink school people who are hurt That's because no one knows or cares about fcs conferences
Everyone cares about sec or big 10 championships |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut Stupid reply, don't act like this again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112974) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:15 PM Author: violent coldplay fan state There was no Big 10 Championship game prior to around 10 years ago. Total money grab. Big 12 only added one recently when they started to get screwed in playoff appearances. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112983) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:20 PM Author: jet house wrinkle Big 12 had, but then lost some teams like Texas A&M and then were not allowed to have one cuz they only had 10 members. Then Big 12 had enough members and now UT/OU are leaving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47113004) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:42 PM Author: harsh pink school people who are hurt You don't need a championship game to have a champion. For big 10 and pac10 teams, spending January 1 in Pasadena was the goal for decades (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47113109) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:43 PM Author: violent coldplay fan state I know it is a boomer sentiment, but I liked that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47113113) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:44 PM Author: harsh pink school people who are hurt I do too. That's why we need a max of 4 conferences and the champs should play in a 4 team championship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47113119) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:42 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Four is obviously idiotic and has been a garbage result for 14 seasons where it’s wildly rigged in favor of the best 2 B1G and SEC programs. With the new realignment you and all the best teams leaving the Pac and Big 12 you might as well just make it a B1G SEC challenge like basketball does. I can see an argument for 8, with top 5 for highest ranked conf champs and at least one slot reserved for non power 5, but eg this year that would leave out at least one very good one loss team in virtually all scenarios. 12 has the advantage of 1) the byes and home field advantages, which will be awesome, and 2) all the one loss teams will get in, and no one will care that a two loss team missed the playoff. It’s the right level of cutoff for a single elimination tournament that will settle all arguments, but there should be 5 highest ranked conf champs (whether P5 or not) who are the only teams that are eligible for the bye, and at least one dedicated non power 5 so that it’s effectively always the top 10 minimum. So the conf champs will still mean something because they will be automatic bids and the byes on the line. If you don’t win your conference and get in on “resume” you should have to win four games to prove you’re the best. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114311) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:44 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut if you're undefeated it would be better to rest starters for upcoming playoff game, they have to rethink this asap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114320) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:49 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon All these schools will gun for the home playoff game very hard bc it will be worth tens of millions just in tickets and sales at the stadiums. You guys are just wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114340) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: Lake mildly autistic main people i dunno but i find it hilarious that osu fans used to belittle ND for "not playing in a coxnf championship game" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112971) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:14 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47112975) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:31 PM Author: Carnelian Stimulating Senate Electric Furnace I'd like to think that conference championships will always mean something but i'm not sure they will after a decade of the 12 team playoff.
Winning the Big Ten is a big deal but it's also the only way to get to an NC (unless you're OSU). When you no longer need a conference championship to get to an NC then people will begin to care a lot less about the conference championship. Couple this with expanding conferences beyond any kind of historical/geographic logic and yeah, I think, eventually, people won't give a shit. |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:33 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut They need to just go back to 9-10 team regional conferences and regular season winner makes playoff. Then they mean something again, they get rid of shitty conference champ week play another week of playoffs or something instead
Keep them loosely affiliated & negotiate tv deals together or whatever idc but what's happening now sucks |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 1:44 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine I think what will occur is the SEC / Big 10 are going to go to like 4 divisions
Each division will play each other then division winners play for the conference championship
That fills 8 of the slots and then the remaining slots are for like the ACC / Big 12 etc.
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:47 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon The 16 team leagues will have to have pods where they play the same 3 teams every year to preserve rivalries and then play 6 against two of the other three pods and it rotates. They will come up with whatever tie breakers for the conf championship but with four four-team pods like that you won’t be able to end up with more than 2 undefeated teams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114336) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 7:14 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine Undefeated teams are going by they wayside with the new SEC/B10. Its going to be incredibly hard to go undefeated in those conferences going forward. It will basically be NFL light (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114427) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 10:31 PM Author: dashing masturbator stage Still very possible in the new B10 but definitely not the new SEC (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47115061) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:40 PM Author: Ebony Sex Offender Candlestick Maker If winning the conference championship gives a first round bye, that results in weird outcomes, now that everyone is going to conferences with no divisions.
You're better off pulling a tOSU and missing the conference championship altogether than making it and losing (which you might, because with no divisions it will always be a tough game).
The loser of a conference championship game has to play more games than any other team that makes the playoffs |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:40 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114303) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:44 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Very wrong. Being conference champ will be the difference between playing one game against the #8-12 team to make the semis v having to win two games including one on the road v top 8 teams. Everyone will gun for the byes very hard and the bye holders will win like 75-80% of the time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114319) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 6:52 PM Author: Ebony Sex Offender Candlestick Maker You're having reading comprehension problems. Everyone who makes the playoffs plays the same number of games EXCEPT a conference champion loser who makes the playoffs. They play one more game than everyone else. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114350) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 9:35 PM Author: Mustard pit In college football, barring injuries, it is generally an advantage to play more games. Everyone gets a few weeks off before bowls and playoffs. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114875) |
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Date: November 30th, 2023 6:16 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon I take your point but you’re missing my point, which is that a bye is still massively valuable because it gives you a single home game as your path to the semis. You want to treat the conference championship as effectively a first round of the tournament and call it a 16 team tournament. That’s fine, but then a conference championship loser who would’ve otherwise made the field of 12 is getting to play effectively double elimination. And a conference championship loser who would not be top 12 without the conference championship is getting a play-in game and were not in contention for a bye anyway (eg Louisville this year). In that sense it will make conference championships more valuable and more competitive bc the favorite still have to play for the bye and the borderline top 12 teams have an actual playoff spot on the line instead of just the opportunity to play spoiler and win a who gives a fuck ACC championship (when the rest of the conference loses out of CFP money if you win so it’s already suspect). This is a conversation about incentives and the only way to understand the incentives is to appreciate the value of the bye, which all the best teams will definitely gun for. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47116037) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 7:11 PM Author: insecure brunch mad cow disease 6/12 bids go to conference champions (and 2 of those conferences will be TTTs next year) so there are only 6 bids for non-conference winners. There would have to be a pretty specific set of circumstances where it would make sense for a team to tank to avoid the conference championship and still be guaranteed a playoff spot.
The weirder thing that is going to happen is that you will end up with something like OSU-Michigan this year where both teams are more or less guaranteed to be Big10 #1 and #2 and they have a regularly scheduled game at the end of the season. If you're just going to play a rematch in a conference championship, it makes a lot of sense to just half ass the first matchup and try for the second one (second one getting you a bye if you win). |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 7:26 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine I think the B10 and SEC are going to have to go to some type of divisional model over time. What you're saying is untenable - you can't have basically 3 straight rematches
UM/tOSU regular season / CCG / Playoff rematch
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Date: November 29th, 2023 7:36 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon CR pods are the answer. Only one of them makes it out of their pod and MSU, Illinois and Northwestern get nuked by Mich and tOSU every year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114492) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 8:00 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine Like I said above. I think it ends up 4 divisions/pods and division winners play in a semifinal before the CCG
Losers play a 3rd place game for the third spot in the playoff |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 7:48 PM Author: Ebony Sex Offender Candlestick Maker I thought they were going to 5 for conference champion winners, since the Pac-12 is gone. The SEC will always send 3 teams the CFP, and it's not at all clear that being #2 is better than being #3. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114534) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 8:00 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine #3 would need to be the road team for fairness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114568) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 8:12 PM Author: Ebony Sex Offender Candlestick Maker They're also going to need to commit to never dropping a conference championship loser below any team that didn't play in a conference championship, no matter how badly they get thrashed. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114602) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 7:26 PM Author: saffron deer antler conference championship >>> national championship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114464) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 9:06 PM Author: Crimson greedy gaming laptop jewess Kind of a dumb thread.
You're argument is basically that if you absolutely dominate the Big 10 or the SEC, then those 2 teams have no incentive to win. But
(i) they do - because they would probably lose their bye
and (ii) every other conference championship still matters because a loss could easily drop them out of the top 12 |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 9:27 PM Author: Vigorous high-end queen of the night cuck The more I think about it, the more I think the 12-team playoff is going to be 180. Going to be some amazing meaningful matchups in amazing atmospheres. Will ensure all legit contenders get in, without being over inclusive. The guaranteed spot for a G5 team is also good. Gives basically every FBS team a path. With the 4-team playoff, like half of FBS realizes that even if they go undefeated their ceiling is likely a cotton bowl against some two loss P5 team. That’s always seemed lame to me. Let’s give an undefeated JMU or whoever a shot next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114856) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 9:41 PM Author: Mustard pit They should have on campus games for all games except the championship. If they did that, I would support it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47114909) |
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Date: November 29th, 2023 10:15 PM Author: Splenetic Home Dopamine I think it’s fine having the semi finals at the designated old school bowl games while rotating the champ location
Rose / Sugar / Cotton / Fiesta / Orange |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 9:22 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon It’s awesome that they will have two rounds of four games each on the campuses. It’s sneakily one of the best parts of the change. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120033) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 9:23 AM Author: Mustard pit Neutral site games are TTT. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120035) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 9:27 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon (fag who has never been in Dallas the second Saturday in October) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120043) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 9:22 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Whoa would you look at this! One XO CFB poaster who isn’t retarded!
Unless you’re a fan of tOSU or Bama and you are a little bitch faggot who wants to continue being awarded championships based on your program’s reputation without having to face the other teams that are the strongest challengers to you, you should support the 12 team playoff. It’s obviously a massive improvement over all prior systems that regularly resulted in a bunch of gay arguing about hypotheticals and how much it mattered that good teams ran up the score on bad teams. |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:30 AM Author: Tan diverse corn cake you say this until some 9-3 team beats a 12-0 team who beat them in the regular season the whole concept of a playoff is retarded; but enjoy your dancing robots or whatever |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:38 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Are you also mad when this happens at every other level of football? Were you disgusted on behalf of the 2007 Patriots that they were robbed of their rightful title? This is the most retarded argument of all. If you want to be the champion, make the tournament and win it. It’s the exact same premise as a four team tournament but it has the massive advantages of 1) not excluding teams that very well could be the best, and 2) preserving an extra incentive to be in the top 4 both for the purposes of an easier path to winning the tournament and hosting a home playoff game. This is why all other levels of football decide their championship this same way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120438) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:47 AM Author: Tan diverse corn cake IF your point is that the NFL is a retarded league for retards, I agree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120492) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:51 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon My point is that you’re being retarded and should stop being retarded, you retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120513) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 12:50 PM Author: Tan diverse corn cake well that's not going to happen to what's your plan B smart guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120755) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:33 AM Author: Bistre den kitty No more than 4 teams could ever have a claim to the title. A 4 spot tourney is just a fair way to resolve disputes when more than 2 teams should be in the NCG. There is no need for a 12 team tourney. Its not basketball. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120421) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:39 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon (guy who will be arguing that Georgia got screwed and was obviously the best team when they lose on a bad call on Saturday and Texas goes to the CFP ahead of them and wins it all) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120446) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:40 AM Author: Bistre den kitty have conference losers been in the NCG in the BCS?
they dont have a claim to the NCG at all imo |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:43 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Before I respond, are you arguing that the BCS is the superior method of deciding a champion over any playoff? Or are you just conflating the BCS and the CFP? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120467) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:46 AM Author: Bistre den kitty No. the 4 team playoff is a great resolution in years where selecting 2 teams to play in the NCG would leave another deserving team out. having 4 spots ensures every team that legitimately have earned a spot in the NCG are not left out.
if UM and Ga both win their conferences for example then they would both belong in the NCG. I guess an undefeated UW could also make a good argument, and the 4 team playoff resolves that issue. But no one thinks that Ohio state should really be playing for the NCG this year. |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:50 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon FSU is undefeated and has a better win than UGA.
To answer your question, yes, Oklahoma backed in to the BCS championship game after losing their conference championship game in 2003. BCS was manifestly retarded to anyone with a triple digit IQ and anyone with an IQ over 85 sees that the four team playoff has just slightly expanded the same problem and made it way too easy for B1G and SEC top teams and excluded other worthy championship contenders who could’ve and would’ve definitely taken out those flawed “championship” teams in a real playoff. |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:52 AM Author: Mustard pit BCS was 180. They just needed to make a rule that you have to win your conference to qualify for the NC. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120521) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:56 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Congrats on reaching full retard yet again in a CFB thread. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120543) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 12:00 PM Author: Bistre den kitty All an expanded playoff will do is have people arguing that a top 10 team or top 12 team was unfairly excluded. But a team on the bubble like that has no claim to the NCG in the first place. That's what all the arguments about the 4 team playoff have come down to in previous years. That there was a more deserving 4th seed, not that one of the 2 best teams in the country was excluded like under the BCS. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120568) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 12:11 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon This is just blatantly wrong. We had a system for 10 years with four spots for five major conference champions. There have never been four undefeated conference champions. So by definition the awarding of the fourth spot (and sometimes the third spot) is a bunch of bullshit arguments among one loss teams. No two loss team has ever been in and no one will ever argue that a two loss team was obviously the best team in the country. The change that’s been obviously necessary for 9 years (really since they came up with the retarded four team format) is to expand to make sure all the P5 one loss teams get in. Yes, this means some 2 loss teams probably also get in, but they have to win multiple road playoff games to have any shot at a title. But no one will care that a team feels slighted that another 2 loss team got in over them. By definition they will be teams that were long shots to win anyway. It’s the equivalent of arguing that 64 teams will mean that 11 loss basketball teams will complain. They do complain and everyone says “shut the fuck up you lost too much and you weren’t going to win 4 straight playoff games.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120623) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:46 AM Author: Mustard pit Ideally, the number of playoff teams should be flexible each year. We could just go straight to the championship this year if one of Michigan, Georgia, or FSU loses this weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120483) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:56 AM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Lol no, and thank God the BCS is dead at least. FSU v Georgia would make TCU v Georgia last year look like tOSU v Georgia in the semis. Michigan would be a narrow favorite at best against Texas or Oregon and it would/will likely be one of those classic games where the slow ass B1G back 7 gets torched by a more athletic team. Georgia is the best team this year and they are missing their best player and took two massive steps backward on defense and haven’t beaten anyone who is actually good. This is the kind of year that begs for a playoff, ideally one with at least six teams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120539) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 12:48 PM Author: Mustard pit The point isn't your entertainment. The point is to have a good format to determine the national champion. Who cares if a game is a blowout as long as the system crowns the correct champion? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120750) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 7:12 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon Your argument against the 12 team playoff is dumb because your definition of “good” seems to be “a way the is familiar to me and/or resembles something from the past.” It’s objectively a stupid system that has the let’s say best team (though I’m not convinced at all that Mich is) play the 9th best team and declares “this is our champion” because the 9th best team only played one team that was around 20th and then a bunch of shitty teams and went undefeated. That’s an awful way to choose a champion that ensures that champions will be weaker than opponents they typically would’ve lost to in a championship that included more teams. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47122302) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:35 AM Author: aquamarine hell milk lmao so this is all incredible flaem history. $EC "invented" the championship game for $$$. Over time, as conferences grew, they did the same thing, realizing (1) teams couldn't all play each other (2) they didn't *want* to increase the conference schedule because they wanted more home $$$ shitball game$ and (3) $$$ for hosting a championship game. Does it make sense to kill it? Of course. But it is basically a concession that these super conferences like the fucking 18-team B1G are just a loose random group of teams, and the 3 or 4 best of them will make the 12-team playoffs each year. And if you're adding multiple additional games for some teams, why the fuck would you have this? But there are some "purists" out there (they are dying now) who want to say there's a "conference champion," and this means those teams get a "bye" in the first round of the playoffs. It was also pushed by Notre Dame as an excuse why it would never need to join a conference (and never need a conference championship game). tl;dr, it's $$$$. |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 5:55 PM Author: Chartreuse naked bawdyhouse juggernaut cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47121992) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 11:38 AM Author: at-the-ready nursing home Presumably to declare a Conference winner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120440) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 12:14 PM Author: harsh pink school people who are hurt need a flexible playoff with anywhere from a min of 2 (bcs-style) to a max of 8 teams. can vary the cutoff each year depending on number of 0 or 1 loss teams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47120638) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 7:53 PM Author: Mustard pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47122416) |
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Date: December 1st, 2023 7:14 PM Author: Abusive turquoise dragon It’s funny that no one ITT has brought up the fact that if you’re concerned about preserving the integrity and value of conference champions as an important consideration independent of determining a championship, then you should worry less about playoff format and more about how dumb the Cock and Balls 18 is, and how stupid it will feel to have Cal or Stanford refer to themselves as the Atlantic Coast Conference champions next year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=5452230&forum_id=2#47122305) |