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Halp Bros--Old Law Firm Stole My Couch
| Mildly autistic big sex offender | 10/04/12 |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 5:28 PM Author: Mildly autistic big sex offender I worked at a firm and recently left. When I first started with this firm, I purchased a couch to nap on between 2pm and 3pm each day, schedule permitting. I was packing up my office last weekend and brought a friend along to help move the couch out. The partner happened to be there and said "not so fast, that's my couch." I calmly explained I had purchased it and brought it in to the office to nap on. He called it an "abandoned fixture" and said under some county ordinance it belonged to him. Halp. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716858) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:14 PM Author: Turquoise Famous Landscape Painting take it and make him stop you (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717732) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:50 PM Author: brass talking business firm Lmao! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719984) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 11:10 AM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722011) |
Date: October 4th, 2012 5:32 PM Author: emerald coiffed partner lodge what state? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21716895) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:23 PM Author: bearded station lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717373) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:30 PM Author: Green Laughsome Wrinkle Generalized Bond lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717412) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:35 PM Author: sickened chapel death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717441) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:39 PM Author: Garnet nighttime clown people who are hurt fuckin' steve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717460) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:17 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman shitlaw steve (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719624) |
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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:18 PM Author: nubile corner coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501339) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 6:46 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman If I recall correctly from my 1L property class, you may have a right to the furniture. The common law rule is that whatsoever is fixed to the realty is thereby made a part of the realty to which it adheres. However, the new, prevailing rule is that tenants may remove whatever they install for the purpose of carrying on a trade (i.e. trade fixtures), provided that they can be uninstalled without injury to the premises, and that such removal is effected before they yield possession of the premises. Arguably, the couch was a trade fixture--you put it in your office for the purpose of aiding you in carrying on your trade as a lawyer. Given that you can remove it without injury to the premises, and because you haven't completely yielded possession of the premises, I think you have a colorable claim that you have a right to that couch, notwithstanding any extant ordinances. The rationale behind this rule is that it is conducive to trade and commerce. The tenant installs things for the benefit of carrying on his trade, not to enhance the landlord's realty.
You should also be aware that there are other theories that may be applied to these circumstances, depending on what jurisdiction you're in. There is the institutional theory: additions to the realty become a part of an economic unit, and therefore become the landlord's property.
I sincerely xoxohth. Let me know if you have any questions or if I need to clarify or expand on anything.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 7:08 PM Author: flirting theater 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21717675) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:07 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718985) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:08 PM Author: Puce Tantric Nursing Home Stain Lol xoxo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21718995) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:11 AM Author: impertinent codepig The firm is the tenant. Analysis irrelevant unless the shitlaw firm is some sort of coöp structured like a salon where you rent your own chair/office. HTH (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720779) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 4:26 AM Author: Dead public bath Couches aren't fixtures of any type. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21720974) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:46 AM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman Ah, yes, well, because I'm a BIGLAW billy rather than a shitlaw steve, I would bring multiple claims if I was helping OP get his couch back. The aforesaid analysis is merely a possible argument if my other more cogent arguments fail. Look at it as a sort of quasi-landlord-tenant argument, perhaps. Surely, though, there is an argument to be made under the doctrine of finders. Lets see what that analysis would look like, shall we? The rule of finders is that the finder of property has a right to that property against all the world except the true owner or prior possessor. In this case, OP is the true owner and prior possessor. Therefore, his boss does not have a right to that property. However, bossman is claiming that OP abandoned the couch. In order for one to abandon something, there must be an act of abandonment and intent to abandon. Ill go ahead and concede that there was an act of abandonment; there is surely an argument that there was. However, OP never intended to abandon the property, as evidenced by his return to the premises in order to retrieve said property. Therefore, the property was not abandoned. Thus, again, OP has a colorable claim that he has a right to that couch.
Again, I sincerely xoxohth. Do let me know if I need to clarify or expand on anything.
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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:05 PM Author: house-broken drab place of business center This is so 180. Well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21722470) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:06 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman tyty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723397) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:17 PM Author: Chestnut pea-brained orchestra pit 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723458) |
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Date: August 22nd, 2013 11:20 PM Author: fighting meetinghouse 180 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#23915695) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:49 PM Author: doobsian carmine boltzmann fat ankles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409163) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:11 PM Author: demanding bronze windowlicker Bigfinderskeeperslaw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809764) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 7:07 AM Author: passionate indian lodge filthpig 180 if real, 180 if not real (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721095) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 2:39 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21723576) |
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Date: November 28th, 2012 10:30 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#22130665) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:34 AM Author: Supple psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579596) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 2:24 PM Author: Rusted mediation multi-billionaire 180 well done. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24581212) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM Author: Green Laughsome Wrinkle Generalized Bond Couches don't even get installed. The doctrine you're looking for here is manifestly mislaid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409172) |
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Date: May 12th, 2022 4:24 PM Author: Internet-worthy abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#44501373) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:09 PM Author: chocolate senate voyeur Eh, I don't know about no couch but I'd probably be facing felony jail time if they added up all the office supplies I stole over the years.
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:15 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman why do you steal from your employer bro? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719060) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:16 PM Author: chocolate senate voyeur I just have a thing for paper clips and post-it notes. I think I'm kinda planning to build a yacht out of post-its. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719075) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman sweet good luck bro (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719119) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:20 PM Author: demanding bronze windowlicker thought for sure this would be johnsmeyer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719117) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 10:24 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman It's one of his alts (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719163) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:19 PM Author: swashbuckling kitchen internal respiration Flame. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719634) |
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Date: October 4th, 2012 11:43 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21719909) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 9:18 AM Author: flushed histrionic mexican You are flame or the partner is a fucking idiot. In no way is a couch a fixture. In no way have you abandoned it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21721248) |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 12:08 PM Author: Angry Dashing Hell Gaming Laptop Fuck yo couch!
Buy another one you rich motherfucker!
Darkness is! Darkness is! |
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Date: October 5th, 2012 6:42 PM Author: Galvanic Skinny Woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#21725143) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:59 PM Author: magenta gaped antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409210) |
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Date: October 31st, 2026 12:34 PM Author: #pwned (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#50217865) |
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Date: December 6th, 2013 9:29 AM Author: fighting meetinghouse (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#24579568) |
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Date: May 27th, 2017 2:50 PM Author: Green Laughsome Wrinkle Generalized Bond Please sue. Best law suit ever. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33409168) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:01 PM Author: hyperactive community account (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809690) |
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Date: July 19th, 2017 2:33 PM Author: soggy greedy state sweet tailpipe lol no not a fucking fixture. And even if it was ... ? your an employee (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#33809893) |
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Date: August 28th, 2021 12:54 PM Author: nubile corner coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#43023653) |
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Date: October 31st, 2026 2:00 PM Author: お尻のほっぺた (β π) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=2069842&forum_id=2#50218072) |