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PSA: only losers pay for sex
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:25 PM Author: misanthropic fluffy place of business locus (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501672) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:01 PM Author: brindle volcanic crater Flame. Prominent men in all fields have been shown to use prostitution
- Spitzer: Governor - Vitter: Senator - Atlanta Strip Club Trial in Late 90s: Many prominent athletes paying for sex - Heidi Fleiss: top hollywood bros
Tons of successful dudes use prostitutes. You are only a loser if that is the only way you can get laid. HTH |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:07 PM Author: carmine market genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502355) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:10 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502375) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2016 9:02 PM Author: Mind-boggling Poppy Messiness Filthpig (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29514493) |
Date: January 1st, 2016 9:26 PM Author: marvelous lilac digit ratio True for Americans but not in Europe/Asia (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501675) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:26 PM Author: Insane Wine Bawdyhouse Striped Hyena implicit or explicit all men pay for sex. hth. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501678) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:27 PM Author: heady antidepressant drug mother (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501680) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:30 PM Author: Vivacious Misunderstood Business Firm (sex-haver loser) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501696) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:08 PM Author: misanthropic fluffy place of business locus LJL@comparing paying an escort for sex VS going on a date with a girl you met on tinder who finds you really attractive, paying for her drinks, and then fucking her rawdogg with sweat pouring from both your bodies, and her then getting clingy and sending you numerous text messages because she can't get enough of your dick (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501918) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:57 PM Author: brindle volcanic crater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502270) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:00 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Take a look around a law school, law office or society at large. Few guys look good enough to make your second option happen. Those aren't really the choices for most. The choices are a) pay and get laid with a hot chick who will at least pretend to be into it, b) try to get laid with someone who may eventually be like "oh fine", or c) stay at home with the twins Palmella and Handella. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502300) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:02 PM Author: brindle volcanic crater Having sex with an average looking woman is far superior to paying a prostitue. I can't imagine the aspiness required to not grasp that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502318) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:04 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm They're different experiences, and I wouldn't fault someone from choosing the paying route over the free but crappier route. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502327) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:07 PM Author: carmine market genital piercing Like with most things, it depends. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502353) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 11:09 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502372) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:18 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm This. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501982) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:50 PM Author: carmine market genital piercing basically (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502221) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:30 PM Author: salmon soul-stirring nursing home True, but as a shortmo, it's less humiliating than acting like a jester in a relationship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501702) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:38 PM Author: Exciting Lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501759) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:28 PM Author: aphrodisiac sandwich mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502055) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:33 PM Author: harsh titillating potus That's just our ridiculous Puritan culture. Men pay for sex all over the world. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501719) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:41 PM Author: contagious boistinker resort There's a disTinctoon between it being morally wrong and making you a loser (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501779) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:48 PM Author: beady-eyed school i have never done it, too risk averse and no real interest, but when i think about it, sounds 180. NSA sex whenever you feel like it, no bullshit, and she's going to fuck you like a pro. what's the problem? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501817) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:18 PM Author: contagious boistinker resort Because for men a big part of sex is power and the male ego. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501973) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:24 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Money is also a store of power. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502025) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:24 PM Author: Exciting Lodge because you're acting like a vile ape faggot (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502022) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:25 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Explain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502031) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:26 PM Author: Exciting Lodge its pretty self evident (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502046) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:32 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Then explaining it should be simple. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502090) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:33 PM Author: Exciting Lodge inserting your bodily organs into another person is a pretty bfd - paying for sex degrades the person you pay and degrades you at the same time. it's not that hard to figure out if you have a modicum of humanity left in you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502097) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:41 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm "inserting your bodily organs into another person is a pretty bfd"
You must be female. For males it isn't generally unless they give it meaning.
"paying for sex degrades the person you pay and degrades you at the same time"
Nah, I don't buy this. People fuck for no reason at all and never talk to each other again. This is just making that happen with a few extra dollars.
"it's not that hard to figure out if you have a modicum of humanity left in you."
It just doesn't reflect reality. And your sort of talk reflects old American Puritanical views that are dead with respect to most sexual conduct but suddenly resurrect when people talk about paying for sex. Most sex is utterly meaningless. People not only commonly have one night stands, there are actually apps that facilitate this these days. And they're unbelievably popular. With prostitution men make up for their lack of looks (something entirely superficial) with money (also entirely superficial). So explain to me why this twist suddenly crosses the line. |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:42 PM Author: Exciting Lodge youre right. go nuts brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502163) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:48 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm I'm happily married, this isn't personal. Just objectively, the argument that casual sex = nbd but paying for what is essentially casual sex is this awful thing makes no sense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502209) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:48 PM Author: Exciting Lodge oh we misunderstand each other. i think casual sex is sps too but i am a bit of a puritan morally speaking (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502213) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:50 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Oh, that kind of makes a huge difference to this conversation. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502225) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:35 PM Author: Glittery Parlour Rigor Nah, I'm pretty chadly for this bort, and I've chosen to pay sex a few times. Nbd (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501733) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:37 PM Author: beady-eyed school leave RSF
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Date: January 1st, 2016 9:47 PM Author: learning disabled indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29501814) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:23 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Here's how I see it:
Sex with hot girl for free > sex with hot girl for pay > sex with fug girl for free > no sex
"Free" as in you pay to take her out, buy her crap, etc. doesn't count. That is the second. Also, a guy who spends all his time making #1 happen is more of a loser than #2. And of course, extents matter and the guy who pays a bunch for #2 particularly if he has money problems isn't doing well either. |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:25 PM Author: tan trailer park goyim if a guy can make #1 happen it means he's insanely good looking and/or has 180 game. so how is he a loser? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502037) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:29 PM Author: Exciting Lodge sex is the equivalent of picking your nose or farting. it's just another bodily function. it really should only be relied on in order to procreate. if you need it for anything more you're a weak pos. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502064) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:35 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm I agree it is a bodily function but it is absolutely awesome, just like eating good food is awesome. Nothing wrong with fucking a hot girl and enjoying it as long as doing so doesn't fuck up your life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502109) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:35 PM Author: Exciting Lodge more power to you brother but i am saying this with 100% certainty: one day you will agree with me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502113) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:38 PM Author: aphrodisiac sandwich mood (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502135) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:42 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Um, I don't even do this. I'm happily married. But philosophically, what you're saying doesn't make sense, and if I were single I wouldn't hesitate to pay for some poon.
"one day you will agree with me"
Explain. |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:33 PM Author: Talented pisswyrm Or he is spending all of his time hitting on every hot chick until one finally fucks him. If he is insanely good looking or has 180 game then fair enough, he is doing the best. I'm just noting that it isn't all cut and dry. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502098) |
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Date: January 3rd, 2016 9:08 PM Author: pungent maniacal theater stage (xo 2016) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29514556) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:50 PM Author: 180 chocolate fortuitous meteor stage What's so bad about being a loser? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=3085225&forum_id=2#29502220) |
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Date: January 1st, 2016 10:51 PM Author: carmine market genital piercing Nearly all guys pay for sex in some way. Either it's direct or indirect; with money or with time/effort.
The only time a guy is truly getting "free" sex is via a one-night stand with some random at a bar/club or if some chick from Tinder or whatever is like "come over..I need to get fucked now." |
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DURR DURR
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Date: January 3rd, 2016 9:27 PM Author: Big-titted swashbuckling tank Yer only a loser if you use a Pro for emotional attachment and affection.
ljl @ being moral qualms about paying a slut to suck your balls while cumming on her face. |
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