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Goldman Sachs call transcript on corona with projections

Soo, not sure if I should share this, but will anyway. My...
Magenta tanning salon
  03/18/20
Well I guess we now know GS is net short.
Avocado mildly autistic church building
  03/18/20
this was on zerohedge a couple of days ago mostly sensibl...
Insecure nursing home patrolman
  03/18/20
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Painfully Honest Dopamine
  03/18/20
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vivacious piazza
  03/18/20
yeah, it will take years to climb the wall of worry back up
purple submissive becky
  03/18/20
make sense of this S&P 500 will see a negative growth r...
Electric mauve incel public bath
  03/18/20
exactly what stuck out to me, completely contradictory
Beady-eyed cobalt point community account
  03/18/20
CR analysis
Grizzly Laughsome Area
  03/18/20
Lol, she’s scared to share a transcript of a public ca...
curious hissy fit
  03/18/20
This part struck me. I thought the "mild" cases w...
Magenta tanning salon
  03/18/20
"mild" can include walking pneumonia and shortage ...
startled state keepsake machete
  03/18/20
Well, Goldman is saying "mild" is common cold-like...
Magenta tanning salon
  03/18/20
Maybe don’t ask a bank for medical advice?
curious hissy fit
  03/18/20
GS has more medical doctors on its payroll than the CDC
Passionate judgmental stead
  03/18/20
mayor of miami is pozzed and so far his symptoms are reporte...
Cream glittery native
  03/18/20
Donovan Mitchell and Durant are completely asymptomatic.
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  03/18/20
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Cream glittery native
  03/18/20
I wonder if this woman realized he'll never marry her
startled state keepsake machete
  03/18/20
won't last past black october
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  03/18/20
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Painfully Honest Dopamine
  03/18/20
Lol at thinking Goldman has some inside info. It's literally...
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  03/18/20
This is just a summary for people who are too busy with othe...
Sienna Exciting Pit Water Buffalo
  03/18/20
fair enough when presented like this, and not the dude's bf ...
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  03/18/20
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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:16 AM
Author: Magenta tanning salon

Soo, not sure if I should share this, but will anyway.

My boyfriend is the CFO of a fairly large company and someone he knows recently sent him this article via email containing a transcript of a call that Goldman had with a few thousand of their clients. While I can’t verify the legitimacy of this info, thought someone may be interested to read it:

“Half Of America Will Get Sick": Here Is What Goldman Told 1,500 Clients In Its Emergency Sunday Conference Call.

Around the time the Fed stunned markets with its 5pm Sunday emergency bazooka intervention, Goldman was holding an emergency conference call in which some 1,500 clients and companies dialed-in, making the comparisons to "Lehman Sunday" especially apropos.

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· 50% of Americans will contract the virus (150m people) as it's very communicable. This is on a par with the common cold (Rhinovirus) of which there are about 200 strains and which the majority of Americans will get 2-4 per year.

· 70% of Germany will contract it (58M people). This is the next most relevant industrial economy to be effected.

· Peak-virus is expected over the next eight weeks, declining thereafter.

· The virus appears to be concentrated in a band between 30-50 degrees north latitude, meaning that like the common cold and flu, it prefers cold weather. The coming summer in the northern hemisphere should help. This is to say that the virus is likely seasonal.

· Of those impacted 80% will be early-stage, 15% mid-stage and 5% critical-stage. Early-stage symptoms are like the common cold and mid-stage symptoms are like the flu; these are stay at home for two weeks and rest. 5% will be critical and highly weighted towards the elderly.

· Mortality rate on average of up to 2%, heavily weight towards the elderly and immunocompromised; meaning up to 3m people (150m*.02). In the US about 3m/yr die mostly due to old age and disease, those two being highly correlated (as a percent very few from accidents). There will be significant overlap, so this does not mean 3m new deaths from the virus, it means elderly people dying sooner due to respiratory issues. This may however stress the healthcare system.

· There is a debate as to how to address the virus pre-vaccine. The US is tending towards quarantine. The UK is tending towards allowing it to spread so that the population can develop a natural immunity. Quarantine is likely to be ineffective and result in significant economic damage but will slow the rate of transmission giving the healthcare system more time to deal with the case load.

· China’s economy has been largely impacted which has affected raw materials and the global supply chain. It may take up to six months for it to recover.

· Global GDP growth rate will be the lowest in 30 years at around 2%.

· S&P 500 will see a negative growth rate of -15% to -20% for 2020 overall.

· There will be economic damage from the virus itself, but the real damage is driven mostly by market psychology. Viruses have been with us forever. Stock markets should fully recover in the 2nd half of the year.

· In the past week there has been a conflating of the impact of the virus with the developing oil price war between KSA and Russia. While reduced energy prices are generally good for industrial economies, the US is now a large energy exporter, so there has been a negative impact on the valuation of the domestic energy sector. This will continue for some time as the Russians are attempting to economically squeeze the American shale producers and the Saudi’s are caught in the middle and do not want to further cede market share to Russia or the US.

· Technically the market generally has been looking for a reason to reset after the longest bull market in history.

· There is NO systemic risk. No one is even talking about that. Governments are intervening in the markets to stabilize them, and the private banking sector is very well capitalized. It feels more like ‪9/11 than it does like 2008.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797524)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:18 AM
Author: Avocado mildly autistic church building

Well I guess we now know GS is net short.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797535)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:20 AM
Author: Insecure nursing home patrolman

this was on zerohedge a couple of days ago

mostly sensible analysis upfront but... the whole “there is no systemic risk/ the economy will recover in H2” thing is so blatantly them trying not to panic investors en masse that it’s laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797547)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: Painfully Honest Dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797661)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: vivacious piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797677)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:43 AM
Author: purple submissive becky

yeah, it will take years to climb the wall of worry back up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797749)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 3:11 PM
Author: Electric mauve incel public bath

make sense of this

S&P 500 will see a negative growth rate of -15% to -20% for 2020 overall.

· There will be economic damage from the virus itself, but the real damage is driven mostly by market psychology. Viruses have been with us forever. Stock markets should fully recover in the 2nd half of the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39799709)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:06 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cobalt point community account

exactly what stuck out to me, completely contradictory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800318)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: Grizzly Laughsome Area

CR analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797645)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: curious hissy fit

Lol, she’s scared to share a transcript of a public call?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797650)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:32 AM
Author: Magenta tanning salon

This part struck me. I thought the "mild" cases were a bad flu?

Of those impacted 80% will be early-stage, 15% mid-stage and 5% critical-stage. Early-stage symptoms are like the common cold and mid-stage symptoms are like the flu; these are stay at home for two weeks and rest. 5% will be critical and highly weighted towards the elderly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797667)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:58 AM
Author: startled state keepsake machete

"mild" can include walking pneumonia and shortage of breath like you've never experienced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797893)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:03 PM
Author: Magenta tanning salon

Well, Goldman is saying "mild" is common cold-like and LESS severe than the flu. That was my point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797923)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:03 PM
Author: curious hissy fit

Maybe don’t ask a bank for medical advice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797927)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 3:23 PM
Author: Passionate judgmental stead

GS has more medical doctors on its payroll than the CDC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39799810)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:04 PM
Author: Cream glittery native

mayor of miami is pozzed and so far his symptoms are reportedly runny nose and some aches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797929)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: Magenta tanning salon

Donovan Mitchell and Durant are completely asymptomatic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797961)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:55 AM
Author: Cream glittery native



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797865)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:58 AM
Author: startled state keepsake machete

I wonder if this woman realized he'll never marry her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797885)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:13 PM
Author: excitant dilemma

won't last past black october

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39798023)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:07 PM
Author: Painfully Honest Dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800324)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:10 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cobalt point community account

Lol at thinking Goldman has some inside info. It's literally just pasting together 3 reports that have come out recently, mixed with their own spin for their investors.

Does anyone seriously think half of America will get the virus? And if so, it's because there's such a large segment of asymptomatic people who already have it. Which means they'd be protected from the same strain in future seasons.....



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800358)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:14 PM
Author: Sienna Exciting Pit Water Buffalo

This is just a summary for people who are too busy with other things in their life. It's reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800406)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:56 PM
Author: Beady-eyed cobalt point community account

fair enough when presented like this, and not the dude's bf "i don't know if i should be showing this...."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39804701)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: Pearly angry cuckoldry

LJL at 2% global GDP growth. 5% contraction in next 12 months at BEST.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39804723)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 5:22 PM
Author: Magenta tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#40582398)