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Goldman Sachs call transcript on corona with projections

Soo, not sure if I should share this, but will anyway. My...
judgmental rigor tanning salon
  03/18/20
Well I guess we now know GS is net short.
Puce cuckoldry senate
  03/18/20
this was on zerohedge a couple of days ago mostly sensibl...
Trip pearly legal warrant
  03/18/20
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apoplectic fear-inspiring theater stage marketing idea
  03/18/20
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Fuchsia contagious resort
  03/18/20
yeah, it will take years to climb the wall of worry back up
Big Chocolate Fanboi
  03/18/20
make sense of this S&P 500 will see a negative growth r...
stirring piazza
  03/18/20
exactly what stuck out to me, completely contradictory
yellow knife antidepressant drug
  03/18/20
CR analysis
scarlet location
  03/18/20
Lol, she’s scared to share a transcript of a public ca...
Drab kitty spot
  03/18/20
This part struck me. I thought the "mild" cases w...
judgmental rigor tanning salon
  03/18/20
"mild" can include walking pneumonia and shortage ...
Ruby station
  03/18/20
Well, Goldman is saying "mild" is common cold-like...
judgmental rigor tanning salon
  03/18/20
Maybe don’t ask a bank for medical advice?
Drab kitty spot
  03/18/20
GS has more medical doctors on its payroll than the CDC
buck-toothed twinkling chad
  03/18/20
mayor of miami is pozzed and so far his symptoms are reporte...
Motley love of her life
  03/18/20
Donovan Mitchell and Durant are completely asymptomatic.
judgmental rigor tanning salon
  03/18/20
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Motley love of her life
  03/18/20
I wonder if this woman realized he'll never marry her
Ruby station
  03/18/20
won't last past black october
Diverse Market
  03/18/20
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apoplectic fear-inspiring theater stage marketing idea
  03/18/20
Lol at thinking Goldman has some inside info. It's literally...
yellow knife antidepressant drug
  03/18/20
This is just a summary for people who are too busy with othe...
tripping chrome cruise ship national security agency
  03/18/20
fair enough when presented like this, and not the dude's bf ...
yellow knife antidepressant drug
  03/18/20
LJL at 2% global GDP growth. 5% contraction in next 12 month...
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  03/18/20
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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:16 AM
Author: judgmental rigor tanning salon

Soo, not sure if I should share this, but will anyway.

My boyfriend is the CFO of a fairly large company and someone he knows recently sent him this article via email containing a transcript of a call that Goldman had with a few thousand of their clients. While I can’t verify the legitimacy of this info, thought someone may be interested to read it:

“Half Of America Will Get Sick": Here Is What Goldman Told 1,500 Clients In Its Emergency Sunday Conference Call.

Around the time the Fed stunned markets with its 5pm Sunday emergency bazooka intervention, Goldman was holding an emergency conference call in which some 1,500 clients and companies dialed-in, making the comparisons to "Lehman Sunday" especially apropos.

Bottom of Form

· 50% of Americans will contract the virus (150m people) as it's very communicable. This is on a par with the common cold (Rhinovirus) of which there are about 200 strains and which the majority of Americans will get 2-4 per year.

· 70% of Germany will contract it (58M people). This is the next most relevant industrial economy to be effected.

· Peak-virus is expected over the next eight weeks, declining thereafter.

· The virus appears to be concentrated in a band between 30-50 degrees north latitude, meaning that like the common cold and flu, it prefers cold weather. The coming summer in the northern hemisphere should help. This is to say that the virus is likely seasonal.

· Of those impacted 80% will be early-stage, 15% mid-stage and 5% critical-stage. Early-stage symptoms are like the common cold and mid-stage symptoms are like the flu; these are stay at home for two weeks and rest. 5% will be critical and highly weighted towards the elderly.

· Mortality rate on average of up to 2%, heavily weight towards the elderly and immunocompromised; meaning up to 3m people (150m*.02). In the US about 3m/yr die mostly due to old age and disease, those two being highly correlated (as a percent very few from accidents). There will be significant overlap, so this does not mean 3m new deaths from the virus, it means elderly people dying sooner due to respiratory issues. This may however stress the healthcare system.

· There is a debate as to how to address the virus pre-vaccine. The US is tending towards quarantine. The UK is tending towards allowing it to spread so that the population can develop a natural immunity. Quarantine is likely to be ineffective and result in significant economic damage but will slow the rate of transmission giving the healthcare system more time to deal with the case load.

· China’s economy has been largely impacted which has affected raw materials and the global supply chain. It may take up to six months for it to recover.

· Global GDP growth rate will be the lowest in 30 years at around 2%.

· S&P 500 will see a negative growth rate of -15% to -20% for 2020 overall.

· There will be economic damage from the virus itself, but the real damage is driven mostly by market psychology. Viruses have been with us forever. Stock markets should fully recover in the 2nd half of the year.

· In the past week there has been a conflating of the impact of the virus with the developing oil price war between KSA and Russia. While reduced energy prices are generally good for industrial economies, the US is now a large energy exporter, so there has been a negative impact on the valuation of the domestic energy sector. This will continue for some time as the Russians are attempting to economically squeeze the American shale producers and the Saudi’s are caught in the middle and do not want to further cede market share to Russia or the US.

· Technically the market generally has been looking for a reason to reset after the longest bull market in history.

· There is NO systemic risk. No one is even talking about that. Governments are intervening in the markets to stabilize them, and the private banking sector is very well capitalized. It feels more like ‪9/11 than it does like 2008.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797524)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:18 AM
Author: Puce cuckoldry senate

Well I guess we now know GS is net short.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797535)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:20 AM
Author: Trip pearly legal warrant

this was on zerohedge a couple of days ago

mostly sensible analysis upfront but... the whole “there is no systemic risk/ the economy will recover in H2” thing is so blatantly them trying not to panic investors en masse that it’s laughable

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797547)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:31 AM
Author: apoplectic fear-inspiring theater stage marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797661)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:34 AM
Author: Fuchsia contagious resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797677)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:43 AM
Author: Big Chocolate Fanboi

yeah, it will take years to climb the wall of worry back up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797749)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 3:11 PM
Author: stirring piazza

make sense of this

S&P 500 will see a negative growth rate of -15% to -20% for 2020 overall.

· There will be economic damage from the virus itself, but the real damage is driven mostly by market psychology. Viruses have been with us forever. Stock markets should fully recover in the 2nd half of the year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39799709)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:06 PM
Author: yellow knife antidepressant drug

exactly what stuck out to me, completely contradictory

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800318)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: scarlet location

CR analysis

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797645)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:29 AM
Author: Drab kitty spot

Lol, she’s scared to share a transcript of a public call?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797650)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:32 AM
Author: judgmental rigor tanning salon

This part struck me. I thought the "mild" cases were a bad flu?

Of those impacted 80% will be early-stage, 15% mid-stage and 5% critical-stage. Early-stage symptoms are like the common cold and mid-stage symptoms are like the flu; these are stay at home for two weeks and rest. 5% will be critical and highly weighted towards the elderly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797667)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:58 AM
Author: Ruby station

"mild" can include walking pneumonia and shortage of breath like you've never experienced.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797893)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:03 PM
Author: judgmental rigor tanning salon

Well, Goldman is saying "mild" is common cold-like and LESS severe than the flu. That was my point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797923)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:03 PM
Author: Drab kitty spot

Maybe don’t ask a bank for medical advice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797927)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 3:23 PM
Author: buck-toothed twinkling chad

GS has more medical doctors on its payroll than the CDC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39799810)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:04 PM
Author: Motley love of her life

mayor of miami is pozzed and so far his symptoms are reportedly runny nose and some aches

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797929)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:07 PM
Author: judgmental rigor tanning salon

Donovan Mitchell and Durant are completely asymptomatic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797961)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:55 AM
Author: Motley love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797865)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:58 AM
Author: Ruby station

I wonder if this woman realized he'll never marry her

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39797885)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 12:13 PM
Author: Diverse Market

won't last past black october

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39798023)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:07 PM
Author: apoplectic fear-inspiring theater stage marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800324)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:10 PM
Author: yellow knife antidepressant drug

Lol at thinking Goldman has some inside info. It's literally just pasting together 3 reports that have come out recently, mixed with their own spin for their investors.

Does anyone seriously think half of America will get the virus? And if so, it's because there's such a large segment of asymptomatic people who already have it. Which means they'd be protected from the same strain in future seasons.....



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800358)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 4:14 PM
Author: tripping chrome cruise ship national security agency

This is just a summary for people who are too busy with other things in their life. It's reasonable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39800406)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:56 PM
Author: yellow knife antidepressant drug

fair enough when presented like this, and not the dude's bf "i don't know if i should be showing this...."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39804701)



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Date: March 18th, 2020 11:59 PM
Author: Odious blood rage space

LJL at 2% global GDP growth. 5% contraction in next 12 months at BEST.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#39804723)



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Date: July 10th, 2020 5:22 PM
Author: judgmental rigor tanning salon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4477679&forum_id=2#40582398)