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Spill it xo: how bad is Hamilton?
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:10 AM Author: comical market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544441) |
Date: July 4th, 2020 12:11 AM Author: glittery old irish cottage It’s not bad, it’s actually damn good. It’s just extremely racist. |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:38 AM Author: comical market A hip hop musical American historical piece is going be really bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544572) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:18 PM Author: Duck-like Slippery Center saw about 20 min of it today for the first time it was kind of goofy and gay (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547319) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:31 AM Author: Lascivious house Correct (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549596) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:39 AM Author: Walnut cumskin box office Do you actually think it’s racist or are you just saying it’s “racist” in the “fuck lib hypocrisy” way? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544806) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:55 AM Author: Puce tanning salon Protip libs are the real racists (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544850) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:39 AM Author: odious stag film incel Is it on Netflix now or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544574) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 12:41 AM Author: comical market Disney+ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544585) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:06 AM Author: Aggressive theatre It’s good. Not like high art or anything, but clever and catchy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544681) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:39 AM Author: Walnut cumskin box office Any examples of a “high art” musical? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544807) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:43 AM Author: Aggressive theatre Beethoven’s 9th.
Things on Broadway? LOL no. |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:26 PM Author: Sick chrome theater Arguably Phantom (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547357) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 6:59 PM Author: scarlet marvelous site preventive strike Seen it live and on Disney +. I thought it was good but also inflated by white guilt. It's not going to be around in 20 years like Les Mis and ljl at people calling this GOAT. It's too one dimensional. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547682) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 7:11 PM Author: onyx office lol you've watched hamilton multiple times? do your parents know your a faggot? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547709) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 1:32 PM Author: Aggressive theatre yeah. all faggots have kids who listen to it non stop (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40555740) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:34 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond Into the Woods (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559496) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:54 AM Author: Electric philosopher-king factory reset button It's really good. They're ridiculous about the "immigrant" shit and they shoe horn slavery stuff that's not super relevant. But sometimes you have to just turn off the lib concern part and enjoy an entertaining musical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544848) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 2:04 AM Author: Excitant place of business Yeah, saw it in Chicago. I am not really a musical guy; some of those one-off lines are wince-able, and even given the lazy quirk of having non-white actors play the Founding Fathers et al., it is a GloCap production that is somehow profoundly pro-American experiment and anti-victimhood mindset. Which I can't really oppose. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544891) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 10:23 PM Author: Vibrant headpube native TCR. Really good/interesting and unique, but about 50 minutes too long. And there are lolzy irrelevant plot lines and remarks about slavery and immigrant shit that are obviously pandering. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40548382) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 1:56 AM Author: bat-shit-crazy ladyboy one of my "friends" was bitching about its "problematic" gender approach today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40544855) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 3:32 AM Author: Deranged orange genital piercing resort It's pretty annoying, it feels like a high school musical with clumsy rapping instead of good songs/singing Best part is king George singing Even my lib gf was like "why did people laud this so much?" it's clearly a so-so or even mediocre Broadway show that's been put on a pedestal for woke reasons |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:10 PM Author: Deranged orange genital piercing resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547279) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:12 PM Author: Duck-like Slippery Center (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547289) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 6:14 PM Author: Deranged orange genital piercing resort Okay tbf I wrote that after only watching the first half. I thought it got better after the intermission - it slowed down and was less chaotic (far fewer characters in the second act). Not bad, but still not deserving the universal love and praise. It's theater's black panther (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547559) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: carmine histrionic address king george was the one part that was actually like a song in a musical (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554902) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 1:36 PM Author: razzmatazz pearl stead main people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwFNeTGcVoI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NOjkmkanrc |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:32 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond The musical was written in part to subvert the normal music of Broadway, so this isn't exactly a shocker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559492) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:11 PM Author: floppy snowy bawdyhouse I refuse to watch something where an all black cast plays all white characters, or something beloved by this age’s media . Lin Manuel Miranda is also a communist and extreme anti-white racist. Skip (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547285) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:20 PM Author: topaz soul-stirring black woman ACTUALLY, the problem with it is that an all black casts plays slave-holding whites in an attempt to make our founding not look so racist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547330) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 10:58 AM Author: carmine histrionic address there is one cast member who pays the most hated character in the story - king george (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554899) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 2:13 PM Author: tan abnormal property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40555999) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:12 PM Author: Territorial Digit Ratio Mental Disorder its like a movie on rotten tomatoes with a 100% rating. why would it be good? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547288) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 5:28 PM Author: fantasy-prone mad cow disease public bath It's the opposite of bad. In many ways it's a Great American Work of Art. There are valid criticisms to make of the political messaging but even that, in its way, is reflective of the period in which it was created. Watch it, listen to it, and enjoy it. Just don't roll your eyes too hard at the obvious neoliberal undercurrents. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547363) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 6:16 PM Author: Deranged orange genital piercing resort Maybe I'm dumb and I was on my phone most of the time I was watching but I didn't get an egregiously overt modern political statement from it, at least nothing that was over the top or even in line with modern shitlibbery (except the constant referral to "immigrant", a few shots at slavery and women's rights) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547570) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 6:22 PM Author: comical market Referring to a settler colonist as an immigrant is actually far right white nationalist propaganda lol. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547586) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:36 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond Can you explain this? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559502) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 2:13 AM Author: comical market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559578) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 7:12 PM Author: galvanic outnumbered hairy legs clown It is excellent. Unfortunately a lot of people appear to miss the point of the musical. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547713) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 7:27 PM Author: Cerebral base awful music and the celebration of the all-POC cast is dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40547753) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:31 AM Author: Lascivious house (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549592) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 7:38 PM Author: racy piazza (xo 2020)
Guys what's the deal with this 5 year old thing that dominated pop culture for months? |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 8:54 PM Author: bat-shit-crazy ladyboy It’s available as a “movie” now (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40548032) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 10:05 PM Author: Cerebral base it's not xo 2020 to avoid exposure to shitty pop culTTTure (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40548310) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 10:20 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Salmon Rigor Stage It’s very accurate, which is why I like it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40548372) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 10:25 PM Author: Cerebral base jesus chrsit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40548388) |
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Date: July 4th, 2020 10:26 PM Author: Vibrant headpube native I was afraid the rap would be cringeworthy, but it really wasn't. Overall, I kinda get the praise coming from rich white libs who don't actually consider hip hop to be an art form etc. That said, I'm surprised critics let it off for the meandering and irrelevant plot lines and insane length (2:50?!) Also some of the slow songs really dragged ass. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40548394) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 3:10 AM Author: Deranged orange genital piercing resort (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549295) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:48 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond Three of the main actors, including the writer, are in legit rap groups IRL.
Here's one of them (Jefferson) rapping with Black Thought, possibly the greatest living rapper, definitely the best among active East Coasters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu5PpanFJ7M
And here's two of the others (Washington, Hamilton), around min 5, they freestyle about topics the audience shouts out, basically rap improv https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q7Ujq-IdXm4 |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 3:17 AM Author: Arrogant pisswyrm if you are a conservative who watches hamilton you are faggot
HTFH
(i separate politics from art but not when the art itself is pushing a woke agenda. have no problem paying to watch uber shitlib brad pitt's once upon a time in hollywood movie but would never pay money to watch a shitlib movie brad pitt movie)
you continue to enrich the shitlib machine (nike, twitter, hamilton etc) and then turn around and cry when they shit on you lol |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 3:29 AM Author: stirring orchestra pit How much of it is pure entertainment vs. historical content? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549343) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:01 AM Author: Lascivious house There is zero real history, all entertainment ππΏππΏππΏ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549544) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 1:44 AM Author: stirring orchestra pit thank ya baby (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40553989) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 3:55 AM Author: multi-colored keepsake machete Pretty entertaining. I don’t understand why people paid 500 bucks a ticket for this years ago but I’m glad it’s free now and it’s certainly worth watching. Some catchy tunes and not that shitlib besides a few pro immigrant sentences (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549380) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:02 AM Author: Lascivious house Its pretty bad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549546) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:11 AM Author: lemon twisted boiling water Even though :D is a fixture from XO's heyday, this is a perfect example of XO 2020.
During the original run, Hamilton received broad critical acclaim from XO across our political spectrum.
Now, a few years later, it's on TV so the proles (new XO cohort) finally have access and "hurr durr it's dumb." |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:15 AM Author: galvanic outnumbered hairy legs clown There are plenty of people ITT who have given it acclaim. I doubt it could be made today given it celebrates white people.
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:25 AM Author: Cerebral base this is just wrong, lots of people shat on Hamilton 5yrs ago (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549573) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:29 AM Author: Lascivious house Cr, lol at XO giving a fucking rap musical critical acclaim in 2015 or 2006 for that matter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549585) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:35 AM Author: Cerebral base i just bumped like ten threads of people saying it sucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549602) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:21 AM Author: comical market There are plenty of Rotten Tomatoes 95% movies that are horrible because they have the right politics. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549805) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 10:26 AM Author: Duck-like Slippery Center no it didn't (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549810) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 2:30 AM Author: vigorous buff principal's office water buffalo It was discussed on here extensively during its original run, you buck-toothed retard. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559613) |
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Date: July 5th, 2020 8:37 AM Author: wonderful lilac abode xo 2020: we prefer the white male privilege puccini ripoff musical where the disfigured basement dweller goes all rapey on the chorus girl th0t and steals her from rich chad (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40549609) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 10:38 AM Author: Cerebral base please poast in english in the future (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554821) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 10:46 AM Author: adventurous saffron crotch giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554849) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:55 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond "hurr durr phantom of the opera is better" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559540) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 10:56 AM Author: Fluffy windowlicker party of the first part Watched first hour and thought it was original and interesting for a musical. I appreciated the idea of a mostly POC cast though they had King George and the loyalists as white guys. I'm guessing it was to emphasize a similar outsider status of the colonists? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554889) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 11:04 AM Author: carmine histrionic address it loses something on TV compared to in the theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554933) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 11:05 AM Author: fantasy-prone mad cow disease public bath Yeah the Disney capture is surprisingly poor, it almost feels like Disney execs said to them, hey, we're gonna record Hamilton tomorrow night, go get your stuff set up, and the team was like, "well, we'll do the best we can." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40554942) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 1:57 PM Author: motley avocado brethren Disney had nothing to with the production. Producers did on their own. Disney then paid them 75 million for it a few years after it was shot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40555919) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 2:49 PM Author: fantasy-prone mad cow disease public bath Whoever shot it did a bad job. It's like high school AV club bad. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40556196) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:24 AM Author: Swashbuckling Flesh Corn Cake It was meant to be a “record” of the show rather than a production, as I understand it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559478) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 2:04 PM Author: Startling nursing home ceo it was really good! i thought it was going to be feel good tripe but it was good. granted i was very high (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40555958) |
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Date: July 6th, 2020 2:55 PM Author: fragrant hyperventilating hospital do you like eminem? if so, you'll like hamilton. if, like me, you think eminem is corny as fuck, then you'll think hamilton is corny as fuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40556215) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:56 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond I saw it with the original cast on Broadway. It's great. If you don't like musicals, then you might not like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559547) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 2:42 AM Author: vigorous buff principal's office water buffalo It's catchy, and by Broadway musical standards very interesting, entertaining, and original. It had far less shitlib messaging than your average 2020 late-night show or mega-corporation tweet, although this is almost certainly in large part due to it being written pre-2016. It gets into the deep cuts of Hamilton's life (beyond what most people know; I knew he had a sex scandal but not the particulars). I liked the Jefferson rivalry and thought it did a good job of mocking him (showing him "from hamilton's perspective") while also making it clear he was a super-chad polyglot big-dicked badass. The casting of blacks in virtually all of the roles is unambiguously and successfully designed to humanize and lionize them.
I can see some people finding it corny, and I can *definitely* see people being like "wait, this is what's shattering all-time records, getting called the GOAT, etc.?" It's too bubblegum -- too designed to be merely entertaining and catchy -- to be a GOAT contender, since that's really supposed to be reserved for capital-a Art. But (very surprisingly to me) there's almost no case to be made that it's godawful/unbearable.
I fucking hate Miranda and really wanted to hate the shit out of this and Moana; both are actually pretty good. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 2:51 AM Author: angry fishy generalized bond If you hate him but liked this and Moana, did you just really hate In the Heights? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40559654) |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:23 PM Author: vigorous buff principal's office water buffalo I meant personally; he's a lib (apparently of the corporatist-shill variety), a pop artist, and I recall reading some out-of-contexts quotes from an interview he gave that irritated me. (I guess I don't really have a good reason for hating him, or at least I don't remember what it is.)
I didn't know what In the Heights was until your poast. Unfortunately I'll probably like it. |
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Date: July 7th, 2020 1:35 PM Author: Electric philosopher-king factory reset button Ironically, Miranda deserves more hate for his support of the clemency for the terrorists who blew up Fraunces Tavern, a revolution era historical landmark. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4576263&forum_id=2#40561825) |